Have Dunlop Sports on a 13 plate Oct Scout, has anyone any experience of MICHELIN Cross-Climate?, they are quieter, more fuel efficient  and better in the wet, apart from being all-season?, but don't have the rim-protector!,

any opinions out there?.

All-weather tyres are a big compromise.There's no tyre which can provide excellent grip all year round.One has to go for dedicated summer or winter tyres depending on the season.

I wouldn't say that's so much the case with more modern batches. The CrossClimates and Nokian Weatherproofs have been getting good reviews in all conditions. I am sufficiently convinced to not bother maintaining separate sets once our existing ones wear out.

Currently having my Cold Weather Nokians swapped over to my Goodyear Efficient Grip -something beginning with P-!

The Efficient Grip are a revelation over the Dunlop SP01's; quieter, smoother and great road holding.

Cross climate is not to be confused with a winter tyre for those talking about them.

The clue is in the name - A tyre designed for all

Round the year use. And it gets rave reviews.

I've not tried them but please do report back of you get them.

I've used GY Efficient Grip for a few years now and found them pretty good. I actually got a decent mpg saving on the VRS.

 

I'm seriously considering the Cross-Climate for my next change. They seem to stick all the boxes I could ask for.

I run the GOOD YEAR EFFICIENT GRIPS very good all round tyre I find.

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Currently having my Cold Weather Nokians swapped over to my Goodyear Efficient Grip -something beginning with P-!

The Efficient Grip are a revelation over the Dunlop SP01's; quieter, smoother and great road holding.

Well having driven a few miles with the GYE PERFORMANCE (it was the first thing I checked when the car was ready!) I can honestly say, the car handles like a dream. The ride is more absorbant, the steering feels slightly heavier, thus giving better feedback and the car just grips.

I would only consider Cross Climate as a summer tyre. Due to the weather and road conditions around here in the winter, I'm not prepared to compromise the safety of my vehicle. As I've stated in previous threads, even in the height of summer the temperatures on my journey to work can hover around freezing.

Yes they're people who live in my area who quite happily drive around on whatever tyres their vehicle came with, but on a journey across town after a particularly heavy snowfall, I observed the aftermath of a two car RTC, one vehicle sliding uncontrollably onto the pavement and one vehicle collide with a street light.

Thanks for the comments, interesting, the strong sense seems to be that no-one likes the original fit Dunlops?, I like the idea of what the Cross-Climates will do but am concerned that they don't offer any rim protection, especially with these Scout alloys that are so vulnerable!.

I've got Falken euroall season tyres on my Scout. Been very good in the winter and have what I would consider a good degree of rim protection.

Thanks for the comments, interesting, the strong sense seems to be that no-one likes the original fit Dunlops?, I like the idea of what the Cross-Climates will do but am concerned that they don't offer any rim protection, especially with these Scout alloys that are so vulnerable!.

 

do they not have a flange at all?

I think the rim protection is affected by the wheel design to a degree as we fitted a full set of Uniroyal Rainsport 3's to the Boxster wheels and also to the VRS. The front tyres on the Boxster are the same size as all round on the VRS but there is a much bigger protection rim on the Boxster wheels than on the VRS wheels with identical tyres.

Got these tyres on my van too (although smal size). They are pretty good tyres.

The VRS also had the Dunlop's on when we got it and they got the dreaded sawtoothing. Apart from the droning that got louder and louder on the rears, they also gave a lot of road noise. They were changed for Falken's which were much better and eventually RS 2's and now RS 3's.

Edited 8 May, 201610 yr by FatblokeVRS

Weve got cross climates on 16 inch Appolons on a 4x4.  Definitely no rim protection but the profile does provide some by itself and no scrapes yet.

 

Other than that they seem a great tyre.  Grippy and quiet.

Just fitted the Dunlop Sport Bluresponse all around to my Octavia... I was looking mainly for some comfort tyres - happy to say that on quiet stretch of road I no longer hear the tyres... at all! Just the engine/wind noise. Cool! They also have good fuel efficiency/wet braking rating...

Now just need to do 4 wheel alignment, the old rears were completely bold on the inside...

Is the Uniroyal Sport3  direction bound ?

 

Got the GY EGP in Scout size 225/50/17 and i am very happy with the tire. 

Edited 27 May, 201610 yr by 0ctavist

Another thumbs op for the Goodyear Efficient Grip here too.

 

Tried them out in the wet today too and very impressed with the grip.

 

The noise level is excellent and the MPG has gone up by a few it seems too.

 

The grip when pushed round a bend and when accelerating hard is very impressive.

Are they  Efficient Grip or Efficient Grip Performance Phil?

 

I've seen the latter are available for around £50 fitted per corner and am very tempted.

Ah yeah. Mine are the Efficient Grip Performance.

 

And yes I paid £50.83 fitted per corner for 205/55/16 V91. Very good price.

 

Cheaper than the Bridgestones  that car came with and now realise they were a bit rubbish now that I have the Goodyears

Thanks for the comments, interesting, the strong sense seems to be that no-one likes the original fit Dunlops?, I like the idea of what the Cross-Climates will do but am concerned that they don't offer any rim protection, especially with these Scout alloys that are so vulnerable!.

 

I ran three full sets of Dunlop SP Sport 01 tyres on our Scout. They were quiet, hard wearing and performed very well in the snow and during the summer months.

 

It always amuses me when people say one set of tyres is a world apart from another set. Really? I've tried many different brands of tyres on numerous cars over the years and not noticed any discernible difference. Perhaps I don't corner as fast as others.

 

Specific to the Scout and specific to the Dunlops, they suit the car very well. I've seen plenty of Scouts advertised for sale and shown on this forum with other tyres fitted (including the Michelin CrossClimate's) and they just look wrong. Yes they may have the same profile but the Dunlop's side profile is much more rounded, 'chunky' if you like which combined with the rim protector step completes the Scout's unique look. Even the factory fitted Pirelli's (brief production period) looked wrong. Here is mine on it's third set of Dunlops...

 

 

Here is a Scout with Michelin CrossClimate's fitted. Most people won't notice but they simply don't look right...

 

Edited 27 May, 201610 yr by silver1011

https://www.goodyear.eu/en_gb/consumer/tires/efficientgrip_performance.EFFIGRIPPE.html

It always amuses me when people say one set of tyres is a world apart from another set. Really? I've tried many different brands of tyres on numerous cars over the years and not noticed any discernible difference. Perhaps I don't corner as fast as others.

 

 

In my experience I've noticed a big difference between a rubbish tyre and decent one.

 

The Bridgestones were OK but I've noticed the car is much quieter with the Goodyears.

 

Also the Bridgestones had a tendency to understeer quite badly (especially when being pushed a bit round the Nurburgring ).

Wind and engine noise and the radio probably prevent me from telling.

 

I've not done a race track day and don't often get the chance to simulate one around York 

Edited 27 May, 201610 yr by silver1011

I fitted Cross Climates to my Octavia MkII FL Estate 4 months and 7000 miles ago.  And the grip is absolutely epic, especially in cold or wet or muddy conditions.

 

They totally live up to the reviews.  I have pretty much always bought premium brand tyres in the past and these are the most sure-footed tyres I have ever owned.

I have noticed no change in either noise or fuel-efficiency from the normal summer tyres I had previously 

 

I obviously can't comment on their longevity.  And I haven't had chance yet to drive in extreme wintry conditions or very hot conditions.  But, from what I have seen so far they are the bees-knees ......

 

Cheers

G 

Reading this with interest as I'm going to need at least 2 new tyres for my Octy soon.

Interesting to read that so far the Goodyears have impressed a lot of people, so they'll go onto my list of possibles.

 

Anyone had any experience with Uniroyal RainExpert 3's or Vredestein Sportrac 5's?  Been a long time since I've had to buy tyres and it was always whatever the cheapest new one's were in stock at my local garage.

These 2 tyres come out very well on tyrereviews.co.uk which is so far my only source of independent information.

i had uniroyals on my focus, prior to my octavia. very very good in the wet. changed to goodyear efficient grip when the time came and still found wet grip superb, but was 2mpg better off on the goodyears. guess whats going on the octy when my current pirellis go!