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i have a VRS TDI and i have gotten 940km from a tank of fuel, and that was normal driving in D not ECO with a mix of highway and around town driving, an no i wasn't babying the car.  At about 4000km mine was off the road because of the manifold pressure sensor failing and awaiting replacement and they loaned me a petrol  VRS to the same spec as mine and i found that i was gettting 650km per tank of petrol vs 850km (at the time) for the diesel, both cars had similar mileage on them.

 

The choice of petrol vs diesel really comes down to the type of driving being done, if you are doing more highway driving the diesel makes sense, but if you are doing lots of shorter trips then petrol could be better as short trips with the diesel  would mean more DPF regens and lower fuel economy.

 

The stated capacity of the tank is 50L but I have put more than 52L into my tank.

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  • DAVEY_DAVE
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    In a TSI DSG here, after driving manuals for the last 10 years, and having a company vehicle with a manual. It's ability to slush along, and how much better it is in traffic, made the DSG a perfect ch

  • I've had my diesel vrs since 2013 and done just over 30k miles. I get at best 45mpg and have had issues with dpf regens causing dreadful fuel economy. Added to the fake exhausts on the diesel I'd

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    As above, go for petrol unless your mileage dictates that you have to have a diesel.   Why spend £20,000+ on a new car and then baulk at an extra fiver on fuel each week.

That's good going in a TDI, the best I have done is 100 mi on a long run 85% motorway 15% A road.

20 years ago I had an early Range Rover and averaged 24 MPG on a long motoway run and about 14MPG around town sort of moderate driving mode, I'm sure I could get an average in lower 30s  if I tried hard enough.

I got 13mpg out of my vRS on one tank because of continued interrupted regens.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/393268-beat-my-mpg/

Worse than my old Volvo 854T5 which was about the same as your RR in the town although it once got 34 mpg on a very long motorway run.

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i have a VRS TDI and i have gotten 940km from a tank of fuel, and that was normal driving in D not ECO with a mix of highway and around town driving, an no i wasn't babying the car.  At about 4000km mine was off the road because of the manifold pressure sensor failing and awaiting replacement and they loaned me a petrol  VRS to the same spec as mine and i found that i was gettting 650km per tank of petrol vs 850km (at the time) for the diesel, both cars had similar mileage on them.

 

 

 

Wow - I am lucky to get 500km out of a tank on my TSI VRS! The only time I would come even close to 650 would be if most the tank was spent on highway with hardly any town driving.

220 VRS, low 30's during general driving, high 30's low 40's on a run.

I am though running a DTUK tuning box (and pedal) which according to the blurb should be around the 300hp mark, and it's very hard not to play! 

I got 13mpg out of my vRS on one tank because of continued interrupted regens.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/393268-beat-my-mpg/

Worse than my old Volvo 854T5 which was about the same as your RR in the town although it once got 34 mpg on a very long motorway run.

 

Ouch  :|

 

I'll doubt the next car will be a diesel for me on the same sort of commute I do at the moment.

i have a VRS TDI and i have gotten 940km from a tank of fuel, and that was normal driving in D not ECO with a mix of highway and around town driving, an no i wasn't babying the car.

 

I also have the same with my vRS, normal refill is around 900km if driving down to almost empty.

Overall the fuel economy is 52mpg which includes my wifes commute (10km each way).

If I take the car for a week, I would normally see mid-50s for a full tank (150km commute).

60k km so far.

 

You have to be careful when reading about fuel economy because the driver is the biggest influence on final value.

An efficient driver in a TSI will easily make the difference to an agressive driver in a TDI.

The pedal map of the vRS is also very agressive so if you want to drive for economy you have to be very light footed.

 

One thing I will say, the diesel doesn't feel especially quick, doesn't sound "sporty" & is not especially exciting to drive.

One thing I will say, the diesel doesn't feel especially quick, doesn't sound "sporty" & is not especially exciting to drive.

 

I'd agree in certain area's i'd prob depend wether a manaul or DSG how quick it feels. I think the TDI Manual has the edge on a TDI DSG, not on off line performance but driver engagement and may impact how quick it feels.

 

But yes the driver's right foot is a big influence in either case, I can have a heavy right foot.

 

The TDI is not quick off the line but it does seem to make progress quite nicely once on the move, the extra torque prob helps here.

 

TBH if I had the choice again I'd of probably thought more about the TSI.

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TDi 9k miles. Manchester to Barnstaple yesterday (when the chuffin M5 was closed) so heavy traffic M6, standing traffic through Cheltenham to avoid the closure then a 85+ blart down the M5 to Barnstaple. Took ages. I averaged 50.2 mph which I think is good.

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TDi 9k miles. Manchester to Barnstaple yesterday (when the chuffin M5 was closed) so heavy traffic M6, standing traffic through Cheltenham to avoid the closure then a 85+ blart down the M5 to Barnstaple. Took ages. I averaged 50.2 mph which I think is good.

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That's good figures. I've only got 3K on my car and the MPG has gradually improved.

That's good figures. I've only got 3K on my car and the MPG has gradually improved.

 

It does, while I was running in the car (0-5K) I was hitting 400 miles to a tank...... Now Im closer to 500 on mostly motorway miles.

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Thanks all.

I think I will test drive both again however opting for the TSI engine is likely.

 

One thing I will say, the diesel doesn't feel especially quick, doesn't sound "sporty" & is not especially exciting to drive.

Agreed not the fastest thing around, but adding a tuning box has improved that, using the lap timer I have been able to get 0-100 times of just under 7seconds not blisteringly fast but good for a diesel

IMO it's getting really hard to justify diesels nowadays.

Unless you do 30k or more there is no commercial reason to get one. Past that threshold I would say the the benefits of gasoline engine (sharper response, low vibe, rev reserve, lower weight, no DPF problems, less service, etc) may be also worth those few extra $$$.

So I would say better to skip diesel unless you enjoy noise and vibe it gives you ;)

I've had my diesel vrs since 2013 and done just over 30k miles.

I get at best 45mpg and have had issues with dpf regens causing dreadful fuel economy.

Added to the fake exhausts on the diesel I'd advise unless you are desparate for 4x4 or do huge mileage buy the petrol.

I struggle to get more than 400 miles out of my diesel. Stupid small tank!

 

Yep.  22,000 miles and I've filled up with 2,323 litres since new (yes, I'm sad and keep records).

 

That puts me at about 43 mpg.

 

My morning journey to work is a 25 minute trek through villages (4th gear, 30mph).

 

My evening journey from work is a 12 minute hike on a motorway (6th gear, 80mph).

 

And I get the thing doing a re-gen every four days or so.

 

If I can get 35mpg out a petrol next time around with all the increased performance, and no re-gen concerns, that's where my money's going.

 

The sad thing is, I bought the VRS primarily on the basis that it's combined fuel economy was 61mpg.

 

I'll give anyone on this forum the deeds to my wife's dolls house if they can drive a VRS and get 61mpg out of it.

Agreed not the fastest thing around, but adding a tuning box has improved that, using the lap timer I have been able to get 0-100 times of just under 7seconds not blisteringly fast but good for a diesel

That's 0-100 kilometres, not miles?

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The sad thing is, I bought the VRS primarily on the basis that it's combined fuel economy was 61mpg.

 

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Really?

If I can get 35mpg out a petrol next time around with all the increased performance, and no re-gen concerns, that's where my money's going.

 

My combined average from 12500km is 38...39mpg (33mpg and 50mpg being daily extremes). And that's from 180PS petrol engine that gives even slightly better dynamics than 184PS vRS diesel. Sound improvement is free of charge ;)

Only thing I would change if I made the selection again is taking a 4x4 + 6-gear DSG combo instead of 7-gear DSG FWD I have. That would open the engine for a bit of remapping. Output is now 250Nm flat characteristic, ranging from 1600rpm to red iirc. Problem is that 250Nm is deemed the max value that those dry clutches can take and any torque boost could fry it.

That's 0-100 kilometres, not miles?

yes km/hr, the quoted figure for the VRS diesel is 8.3sec and I am getting a second less than that

I've got the diesel, it's just on 8mths old now, still as happy as ever with it!

I understand it may not be quick off the line and potentially suffer from dpf issues but from where I have come from, a 2011 1.4l Ibiza, it is a world away.

The purchase of the tdi to me was a no-brainer. Cheaper road tax, economical compared to the tsi and averaging at least the same or better mpg than my Ibiza.

14 plate VRS petrol estate, I see ~36mpg with a 40 mile daily commute.

 

I am considering changing for a VRS diesel estate, mainly because my daily commute is about to increase to 100 miles. But, from what I've read the diesel mpg isn't fantastically better than the petrol. So, I'll probably keep the petrol and get a Revo Stage 1, because why not?  :p

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Not too shabby for a petrol

30 min commute @68mph on motorway

I'll give anyone on this forum the deeds to my wife's dolls house if they can drive a VRS and get 61mpg out of it.

 

My long term average over 34,000 miles is a smidge over 52mpg.

 

But I've had several journeys above 60mpg, nearly 65mpg. Usually on my way to work, which is A roads so usually 50-60mph, but if I get caught behind a lorry, 15 miles at 40mph in 5th does wonders for your mpg figure!

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Thanks again for all your replies.

 

I think I am going with the TSI engine, next question though should I go manual or DSG? I think I may get bored using DSG :/

dsg all the way, you can play when you want paddles or trip tronic, and when you want to chill just put it in D and leave it.

Thanks again for all your replies.

 

I think I am going with the TSI engine, next question though should I go manual or DSG? I think I may get bored using DSG :/

 

 

Others can probably answer better as I haven't driving the TSI DSG vRS especially as IMHO the higher the BHP the better the experience with autos.  But, I've driven the 170bhp passat in dsg and the 105bhp TSI Fabia 2 Monte Carlo DSG and both times I've come to the conclusion that although the DSG is a good auto for spirited driving it's not as satisfying as the manual and it's not a good auto as it's far too jerky in traffic.

 

Personally give me a slushbox in a relaxed car and a manual in a performance car...

 

But as always - test drive ;)

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