Not a question and I am not looking in particular for any answers, just needing to vent really.

I hankered after a Fabia VRs for about 5 years until I could afford to run two cars. Got mine a few years ago and it had been a bit neglected, so first and foremost, as with any second hand car that anyone buys, a service, a mooch about, and fix anything that needs fixing, find out any common faults, see if a fix has been applied and if not, then do it. If it breaks, get it fixed asap before it gets worse and causes other parts to break. Standard stuff.

Since joining Facebook to track my university student daughters whereabouts and doings, and joining several skoda and VRs owners groups(wtf is that about its almost the exact same list of members) including the Briskoda one(which,btw, seems to have members who aren't members as someone actually asked last night what Briskoda was!). I have noticed a rather upsetting trend of new owners, who say they've always wanted one, and have great plans for doing all sorts of magical and fantastical things to the car, then bin them as soon as it bursts a vacuum pipe, or the head gasket goes. And when I say bin, I don't just mean sell them on, I mean break them as in their current state they are possibly worth more money in bits than as a whole. Wtf is that about, if you love the car look after the fecking thing, if you have big plans for 'improvements' have big plans for repairs too ffs.

No patience and too feckin lazy to put in the effort to get it fixed. Willing to spend money on a front mount and a remap, but when the turbo goes pop, says it's cheap crap and bags the bloody thing. If they aren't going to look after the bloody thing don't buy it in the first place, or at least sell it, someone else will look after it ffs. I don't mind written off ones(one on eBay which was totalled and had the roof cut off it to get them out, for example) being broken and sold, but there are people out there who are breaking these cars with nothing wrong with them. Owning a 12 year old car like the VRs is not like owning a 1.0 corsa. Just gets right on my nips that's all.

Lennie

Since joining Facebook .....

Lennie

There's your problem.... FB!! I've never signed up to it, but due to my interest in Briskoda and taking the missus along to a few meets she has signed an to the Brisky FB page and she tells me all about the cr4p she reads on there. Some of it is hilarious!!

I've bought a second vRS that I can take apart myself in my own time and learn some things so that if or when somethin bad happens I'm in a good position and won't have to send her to the scrapie in the sky

Stick to the proper stuff.... Briskoda.net!!!

I am a member of the Vrs owner group or whatever it's called, I find it very entertaining reading material.

And I know what you mean about the "breaking, 90k all parts available" sort of post. I'm keeping my eye out for someone breaking an SE because the boost pipes keep popping off

JRJG

If anyone had nerves for his car it's me. I destroyed 3 engines, but always had a will and love to make it alive again. Thats because the don't have experience, and they think all you have to do to make a car fast is dump money and BAM! it turns into a fire breathing monster. They don't calculate it is still a 14 year old heap og 6.000+ parts, a few are bound to go broken.

 

P.S 4th is soon to be built over 220bhp. 

Edited 2 August, 20169 yr by tibor987

Facebook is generally full of thick illiterate morons.

Avoid at all costs.

I have no Facebook account and never will.

Every argument on jezza revolves around Facebook.

Says it all.

I am a member of the Vrs owner group or whatever it's called, I find it very entertaining reading material.

And I know what you mean about the "breaking, 90k all parts available" sort of post. I'm keeping my eye out for someone breaking an SE because the boost pipes keep popping off

JRJG

That one with the chop top on eBay is an SE, middle offside impact with what I assume was a tree, so the intercooler and boost pipes should be ok.

Lennie

Edited 2 August, 20169 yr by Jaspire

That one with the chop top on eBay is an SE, middle offside impact with what I assume was a tree, so the intercooler and boost pipes should be ok.

Lennie

A chop top, someone chopped the roof off!? Surely not!?

I meant someone who is silly enough to break their SE due to an easily solved problem, my pipes are fine, but I wouldn't mind a spare front bumper and boot with spoiler

JRJG

agree with most, but i do think there is a point where its not financially viable, either there comes a point where you dont have the skills, or cash etc

 

For example, i loved my Alfa 145 cloverleaf.. and i spent a lot keeping it going. But one year all things mounted up... it was rotten (what a surprise :p) needs a ton of welding, tyres where needed soon, timing belt also, and the millage was mounting up.

As much as i loved it, im not a mechanic, i dont have a garage. And it was time ... these things happen.

 

RIP Alfie

Edited 2 August, 20169 yr by FromTheDarkness

agree with most, but i do think there is a point where its not financially viable, either there comes a point where you dont have the skills, or cash etc

For example, i loved my Alfa 145 cloverleaf.. and i spent a lot keeping it going. But one year all things mounted up... it was rotten (what a surprise :p) needs a ton of welding, tyres where needed soon, timing belt also, and the millage was mounting up.

As much as i loved it, im not a mechanic, i dont have a garage. And it was time ... these things happen.

RIP Alfie

Pretty much every car has a point at which they no longer become financially viable. But if you are buying a 12 year old car for a grand, then the financial viability goes clean out the window before you even get going, one major part failing, such as a turbo or head gasket will then cost you more than half the value of the car to fix.

If a motor is rotten and noone wants to fix it then fair enough, but because they reached the £2000 mark, what I like to call the terminal price, at which point it will then rapidly drop to the £1000 mark and become a throw away car, until very few are left and prices rocket up again, it just seems they are bought as half decent cars and then scrapped in a couple of weeks if the owners sees another car he likes better so is breaking it to make more money. Nothing wrong, it's just financial. Even Big Jase' yellow one has had in the region of 4 different owners since he sold it, (and every time it has been sold on, some bits seems to have gone missing).

I guess I am just starting to get sentimental about my car, but if you are buying any car between 9 and 12 years old, with little or no history, surely you have to expect to have to bring it up to scratch first. As JRJG says it's the 'less than 100,000 miles all parts available' ones that are most annoying.

Not many cars offers the same mix of performance and fuel efficiency and with plenty of headroom for modifications, certainly not the new Fabia 3 unfortunately, as I think it is a beautiful looking car inside and out, but I point blank refuse to buy another car with 3 cylinders and that's all they fit them with so wee furby is staying put.

Like I said, just wanted to rant and vent my spleen .

Edited 3 August, 20169 yr by Jaspire

There's your problem.... FB!! I've never signed up to it, but due to my interest in Briskoda and taking the missus along to a few meets she has signed an to the Brisky FB page and she tells me all about the cr4p she reads on there. Some of it is hilarious!!

I've bought a second vRS that I can take apart myself in my own time and learn some things so that if or when somethin bad happens I'm in a good position and won't have to send her to the scrapie in the sky

Stick to the proper stuff.... Briskoda.net!!!

 

When my oldest daughter went to Oz to work for a year, my wife joined FB, now she knows all about members of our family that they don't seem to keep in regular touch with - so it does have its uses!  That was one thing that concerned me about buying Carista for using as an "on the road" fault reading tool - seemed like the only way that they would keep you up to date with changes was via FB or ****tur! ( oh that joke backfired, caught by bad word police)

Edited 3 August, 20169 yr by rum4mo

Its not a vRS, but I've probably spent over £1000 over the last 18 months, servicing and repairing the Classic family's 13 year old Fabia 1.2. Not been using it lately so it's parked up Sorned with 11 months MOT because it is not worth anything. Personally I can't bear not having a well maintained car that I could just get in and drive from Lands End to John O'Groats, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just skimp on repairs, scrap it, get another...

This was one of the reasons i wanted out from mine.

They are great cars but are getting a bad name now, so many people are neglecting them and just wanting huge power without any of the upgrades, 190bhp remap on a stock car is no good. 

Then when it breaks just throw it in and get another rather than fix it.

Pretty much every car has a point at which they no longer become financially viable. But if you are buying a 12 year old car for a grand, then the financial viability goes clean out the window before you even get going, one major part failing, such as a turbo or head gasket will then cost you more than half the value of the car to fix.

If a motor is rotten and noone wants to fix it then fair enough, but because they reached the £2000 mark, what I like to call the terminal price, at which point it will then rapidly drop to the £1000 mark and become a throw away car, until very few are left and prices rocket up again, it just seems they are bought as half decent cars and then scrapped in a couple of weeks if the owners sees another car he likes better so is breaking it to make more money. Nothing wrong, it's just financial. Even Big Jase' yellow one has had in the region of 4 different owners since he sold it, (and every time it has been sold on, some bits seems to have gone missing).

I guess I am just starting to get sentimental about my car, but if you are buying any car between 9 and 12 years old, with little or no history, surely you have to expect to have to bring it up to scratch first. As JRJG says it's the 'less than 100,000 miles all parts available' ones that are most annoying.

Not many cars offers the same mix of performance and fuel efficiency and with plenty of headroom for modifications, certainly not the new Fabia 3 unfortunately, as I think it is a beautiful looking car inside and out, but I point blank refuse to buy another car with 3 cylinders and that's all they fit them with so wee furby is staying put.

Like I said, just wanted to rant and vent my spleen .

Don't know what's worse here...the fact my car was 2k or it's a 3 cylinder

What you're saying without saying it is that it's ****ed already haha

Don't know what's worse here...the fact my car was 2k or it's a 3 cylinder

What you're saying without saying it is that it's ****** already haha

LOL Yes, ... I mean No... I mean(keep digging Lennie they can cover you over shortly), ah fk it!

 

What I meant by the above was that once they get below 2 grand, people try to shift them while hey still have value, the market gets flooded and the price plummets, at which point they become cheap enough for people to buy as throw aways, rather than keepers, like I said above, nothing wrong with the actual cars, just people arnet inclined to look after them, which peeves an enthusiast no end!

 

I have had a couple of 3 cylinder motors and I just found them to be noisy and lacking oomph.  I am at that stage of life where what I want is quality parts, a quiet, comfortable ride, effortless overtaking and good handling, good mpg, and a bit of overhead in the motor for modification if I am buying a keeper, which if I bought the new mk3 Fabia, it would be. The Mk1 VRs covers a few of those bases, and the noise can be sorted to an extent with sound deadening Think I just bought a ds3 instead. 

LOL Yes, ... I mean No... I mean(keep digging Lennie they can cover you over shortly), ah fk it!

What I meant by the above was that once they get below 2 grand, people try to shift them while hey still have value, the market gets flooded and the price plummets, at which point they become cheap enough for people to buy as throw aways, rather than keepers, like I said above, nothing wrong with the actual cars, just people arnet inclined to look after them, which peeves an enthusiast no end!

I have had a couple of 3 cylinder motors and I just found them to be noisy and lacking oomph. I am at that stage of life where what I want is quality parts, a quiet, comfortable ride, effortless overtaking and good handling, good mpg, and a bit of overhead in the motor for modification if I am buying a keeper, which if I bought the new mk3 Fabia, it would be. The Mk1 VRs covers a few of those bases, and the noise can be sorted to an extent with sound deadening Think I just bought a ds3 instead.

Ah right, you've been honest with me so we'll call off the witch hunt lol.

This is my fourth car believe it or not since passing my test in March. Although it is slightly noisy as it's a derv (check me out with my acronym work ) I really enjoy it. If I get 2 years out of it then I'll be happy enough with that and try get a mk3 Fabia.

This is my fourth car believe it or not since passing my test in March.

 

Blimey, what are you doing with them?

Because when a car starts having probelms every month there is a new one.

 

PS: From person experience...

Because when a car starts having probelms every month there is a new one.

 

PS: From person experience...

 

Had my last three cars for ten years each. They were already relatively old when I got them. I just keep fixing them.

Had my last three cars for ten years each. They were already relatively old when I got them. I just keep fixing them.

Having had Hyundai's that are >10 years old, I can see why people would be inclined to bin cars like that.

 

With that age on them, the windows stop working, the central locking packs up, they start squeaking around corners, have even less power than they did to start with and the brakes tend to be iffy at best. Cars like that aren't worth it.

 

I paid £100 for a Hyundai Amica a year ago, a 2001 1.0 model, with aircon that didn't work, central locking that didn't work, electric windows that didn't work, a door didn't work, it managed to eat a brand new wheel bearing in the space of a year, was temperamental in the wet in terms of starting and an absolute arse to work on. Also, acceleration just about wasn't.

 

My Fabia on the other hand is lovely and I enjoy doing work on it because the car feels that it is worth the time/effort.

Having had Hyundai's that are >10 years old, I can see why people would be inclined to bin cars like that.

 

With that age on them, the windows stop working, the central locking packs up, they start squeaking around corners, have even less power than they did to start with and the brakes tend to be iffy at best. Cars like that aren't worth it.

 

I paid £100 for a Hyundai Amica a year ago, a 2001 1.0 model, with aircon that didn't work, central locking that didn't work, electric windows that didn't work, a door didn't work, it managed to eat a brand new wheel bearing in the space of a year, was temperamental in the wet in terms of starting and an absolute arse to work on. Also, acceleration just about wasn't.

 

My Fabia on the other hand is lovely and I enjoy doing work on it because the car feels that it is worth the time/effort.

 

100£ or 1000£??? you can't get a that car less than 1500€ here in portugal... (i've just cheked)

 

 

My Ibiza doesn't worth it and I keep fixing, don't know for how long....

Edited 5 August, 20169 yr by dm222

I paid £100 for a Hyundai Amica a year ago,

 

You actually paid money for one of those?

100£ or 1000£??? you can't get a that car less than 1500€ here in portugal... (i've just cheked)

 

 

My Ibiza doesn't worth it and I keep fixing, don't know for how long....

£100, €117 in your money

 

It was a tired old car, it had 60,000 miles and needed new tyres, a service, a good clean etc. I spent far too much money on it in the year.

You actually paid money for one of those?

I say paid money, it was bought as a "gift" for me by a family member as my previous car (another godawful Hyundai) had been sent to the scrapyard months prior

I think I might regard a Hyundai as more of a punishment than a present, did you upset that particular family member in some way?

 

I think I might regard a Hyundai as more of a punishment than a present, did you upset that particular family member in some way?

 

Surprisingly, it was done with best intentions. Though, the person they bought it from was sending it to the scrappy at first.

 

It was great for the first 12 miles, then it killed a wheel bearing, and then the problems just kept happening...