Skoda Fabia VRS - 2010.

85k - recently serviced.

 

 

Name: CAVE - TFSI - 1.4L - 132 (179)
 

DTC: P135500,Misfire cylinder 1; open circuit

DTC: P159D00,Oil level/temperature sensor; implausible signal DTC: P147900,Brake vacuum system Mechanical malfunction.

DTC: P001600,Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation - Bank 1 Sensor A

DTC: P008800,Fuel Rail/System Pressure - Too High

DTC: P229300,Fuel pressure control valve DTC: P030100,Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected

DTC: P030400,Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected

DTC: P030200,Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected

DTC: P130A00,Cylinder deactivation

DTC: P030000,Random / multiple cylinder misfire detected

DTC: P001200,Camshaft position "A"; timing over-retarded (bank 1) DTC: P010600,Altitude sensor/manifold pressure; implausible signal.

 

Suspect Timing Chain (buggered). 

Anyone got the part number for it please? Typed into Ebay, timing chain for Skoda Fabia VRS comes back with this product.  However when I go on etka.cc I type the part number but nothing comes up. 

 

Where do I go from here?  Can/Will Skoda do anything or charge me a bomb? Do i just buy said timing chain and find a decent Non - Skoda garage to fit it?

I'm not sure what to do, first time it's happened.

Edited 20 September, 20169 yr by Naths vRS

Surely that will be a new engine.

Yeah i'd think so.

A timing chain isnt somthing you wait to fail and replace once it has.

 

What happend when it failed, much clattering and banging noise?

Please don't tell me that! I'll be getting rid otherwise.

 

It was a little jerky and wouldn't get much speed last night and like metal churning if i tried to put my foot down which I didn't have to thankfully.

I can understand that coming to the forum and asking advice at such an unfortunate occasion is something like a natural reaction but you'll be much better getting the car to a VW/Skoda as soon as possible, have them fully diagnose the vehicle and come back with a clear picture of what failed/needs replacing.

 

From that point on it makes sense to discuss your options but until that I don't see the point of spending time here. I am saying this with every good intention as there was more than one occasion that my initial assessment of a damage (and a couple of friends as well) seemed to be a much much more costly repair than it actually proved to be after the dealership's full diagnosis.

 

Hope it's nothing terminal.

Yeah I know what you mean newbie, but thought it'd could've happened to someone already and see what route they went down.

Also it was RAC that got those diagnostic codes and came back with what he suspects not Joe Bloggs on a VCDS machine. 

Edited 20 September, 20169 yr by Naths vRS

If the timing has slipped as one of those codes indicates and then misfires it's toast.

At what age or milage is the timing chain on these need replacing/tightening ?

Well just phoned a garage who have quoted me £500 all in...not as bad as I expected to be honest. So it's getting shipped of next Wednesday with thanks to the RAC.

At what age or milage is the timing chain on these need replacing/tightening ?

 

That's what I was thinking. Blown pistons, valves etc. are much more common in these engines than slipping chain? I mean it is rather unfortunate but then again mine blew her turbo and that was also not a very common failure.

Well just phoned a garage who have quoted me £500 all in...not as bad as I expected to be honest. So it's getting shipped of next Wednesday with thanks to the RAC.

 

If you can indeed get away with 500 I'd say you should be rather satisfied.

I think that's £500 to replace the failed chain, not repair the damage that's been caused (possibly!

Naths vRS, 

I know your car is 6 & a bit years old, and well out of warranty.

 

But just maybe get a Email off to Skoda UK.  Because your car is one of the first in the UK and was a Skoda UK Media car.

They should be embarrassed enough to get it into one of their workshops and inspect the engine properly and rebuild or replaced.

After all it got them publicity in 2010.  and sure can get them plenty bad publicity now.

 

They might have discontinued building and selling them but surely the amount expiring before getting to 90,000 miles is bad, 

once they get more publicity on the ones not reaching 45,000 miles they really show them selves up.

I will blitz the magazines and editors on your car, and the road testers that drove it.

Like this review with the reviewer driving your car.

Edited 20 September, 20169 yr by Offski

I think that's £500 to replace the failed chain, not repair the damage that's been caused (possibly!

 

The chap I spoke to said that he'd skim the head, replace new valves, oil and coolant etc, and replace with all new parts.

 

Naths vRS, 

I know your car is 6 & a bit years old, and well out of warranty.

 

But just maybe get a Email off to Skoda UK.  Because your car is one of the first in the UK and was a Skoda UK Media car.

They should be embarrassed enough to get it into one of their workshops and inspect the engine properly and rebuild or replaced.

After all it got them publicity in 2010.  and sure can get them plenty bad publicity now.

 

They might have discontinued building and selling them but surely the amount expiring before getting to 90,000 miles is bad, 

once they get more publicity on the ones not reaching 45,000 miles they really show them selves up.

I will blitz the magazines and editors on your car, and the road testers that drove it.

Like this review with the reviewer driving your car.

Yeah it's probably still worth getting an email over to them as you say. However I wouldn't know where to start on how to put into words in a professional style, would you (or anyone else) be able to help?

Edited 20 September, 20169 yr by Naths vRS

Sorry but i think the £500 quote is pie in the sky, but if it can be done and sort out the issues then happy days..

With a 85,000 mile Twincharger engine an inspection of the bores, rings, bearings might find that spending just on the head is false economy.

 

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What was done at the recent service? & by who?

You have had misfire issues and Coil & Plug issues for a good while now. Did the ECU ever get a Software Update done?

Sorry but i think the £500 quote is pie in the sky, but if it can be done and sort out the issues then happy days..

With a 85,000 mile Twincharger engine an inspection of the bores, rings, bearings might find that spending just on the head is false economy.

 

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What was done at the recent service? & by who?

You have had misfire issues and Coil & Plug issues for a good while now. Did the ECU ever get a Software Update done?

 

Recent service it had:

 

 

Which was done at Mr Clutch as i refuse to pay Skoda prices. Had no bother with them before.  And no I haven't gone for a software update. Maybe I should do once the car is repaired...as i've replaced both coils and spark plugs 

Is it now in at a workshop and dismantled?

And is it clear what caused the problem, what needs to repaired and at what cost?

Is it now in at a workshop and dismantled?

 

Nope, not until Wednesday.

 

And is it clear what caused the problem, what needs to repaired and at what cost?

See above.

 

I'm just gutted tbh, such a awesome car but once this has fixed and been paid off, I'm getting shot.

Edited 26 September, 20169 yr by Naths vRS

Anyone with the skills and equipment to do any repair will hopefully be able to apply the latest software before the job is completed.

Naths vRS

 

in all honesty - the list you show as a service is totally Micky Mouse, and is nothing other than a levels check. There is little of any electrical or mechanical worth to be seen in the list. You could have easily done this yourself in an hour or less. Please accept that this is not a 'be nasty to Naths vRS' - but rather an attempt to point out to others that this type of service offered by national chains are really pointless.

 

I am assuming that Mr Clutch were not responsible for providing the list of problems you gave in your opening post?  If they did, then I take back entirely my comments.

If they did give you a read out/diagnostics sheets as in your original post - had this been done first, then the service need not have been done.

 

Keep us all informed

^^^

Exactly,

it was a Oil & Filter Service and fluids check and an inspect and report service.

Much as a Skoda Minor Service is, & often a Major Service can be.

 

Nath, what does Mr Clutch Charge, and what oil did they use, VW 502 00 or VW 504 00.

 

& Importantly what Oil filter did they use?

I use Mahle Oil Filters on Twinchargers not OEM VW/ Audi Silver ones or the older black ones.

Edited 26 September, 20169 yr by Offski

Had an update...not good either.

 

Pistons have buggered up....£3,600 (inc. labour & VAT) for a rebuild. Going to sit sorn on my drive for a while

Have you checked the price of a Base 1.4 TSI CAVE Engine bought from VW which comes with a 2 year warranty, latest parts including Oil Spray Jets..

Have you checked the price of a Base 1.4 TSI CAVE Engine bought from VW which comes with a 2 year warranty, latest parts including Oil Spray Jets..

 

To tell the truth, I wouldn't know where to start looking, I've never had a car do this before. Gutted is an understatement.