So my SE Sport has finally arrived in the UK at my local port...

The salesman is now trying the hard sell and isn't budging because they had to match a deal from Simpsons Skoda.

Think it's worth the £300?

            :think:          

 

 

 

 

Save the £300 and get it done by a proper detailer for half the price. At least he'll know what he's doing

Edited 26 November, 20169 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Well that was my thinking too however he drove a hard bargain so thought I'd ask first.

Waste of money. As said go find a local detailer.

You can buy the stuff of ebay for 50 quid, it dosent have the garrentee though, not that its worth anything though. A detaler will do a much better job, the reason is its all thay do, so the probability is thay do a good job.

It is good stuff it lasts about a year if you use the right car shampoo. It certainly isent lifetime garenteed, after 8 months the water stoped beeding tha way it did when new. I got it for free, the dealer did the car then asked if i wanted it, no being the answer. I guess they must have a high sucsess at pedaling this stuff when people have the new car bug.

Edited 26 November, 20169 yr by Alpha2110

SWMBO paid for it on her Fabia at a discount. £200. I told her not to bother but noooooooooooo. Waste of money and TBH I really doubt they did the upholstery like they said they would.

Halfords sell the exact same Autoglym products at a fraction of the cost. Couple that with a decent detailer as Auric said.

I ended up being sold it because I am terrible with salesmen and I don't know what autodetailers are :/

To be honest though I think they did a good job with it but I have no way to verify the interior was done. I got a big bag of supplies that came with it too. I probably got ripped off but I've never bought a new car before so of course I wanted this and that and the other thing.

 

Maybe I got the lucky straw with regards the the quality of the application.

SWMBO paid for it on her Fabia at a discount. £200. I told her not to bother but noooooooooooo. Waste of money and TBH I really doubt they did the upholstery like they said they would.

Halfords sell the exact same Autoglym products at a fraction of the cost. Couple that with a decent detailer as Auric said.

The autoglym stuff, is not the same as halfords, its dealer only, there are three products in the dealer pack, paint protection, fabric protection, 3m scotchgard, and glass treatment.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Autoglym-Lifeshine-Full-Dealer-Kit-Carbon-Shielding-Coating-and-After-Care-Kit-/332043753010?hash=item4d4f599632:g:OUsAAOSw~OVWzbSh

The care pack you get is, it has all thd autoglym product that you buy in halfords

Waste of money !

For the same money.

 

Buy the kit above

Buy a pressure washer and Snow Foam Lance

Good Snow Foam

Read up on the detailing section of this forum

Do it your self for much less cost with a new set of gear for future use

Feel much satisfaction

This stuff annoys me. Dealers should have a code of conduct. I'm not expecting fsa compliance levels, but if a customer says no, you don't ask again. Anything more is pushy sales and when I get a whiff of that culture my hackles get right up. They really take advantage of people who are not confident and not everyone is. Many people hate the confrontational ways of car price haggling and it's no better than those shysters that come round old people's houses putting the fear of god up them.

I knew I could get the PDI kit and aftercare kit for less than £70 but with the protection pack as well, wasn't sure if it was worth it, especially with the warranty.

Ultimately I've refused it, but I'll either do it my self or get someone to do it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUTOGLYM-LIFESHINE-CARBON-SHEILD-P-D-I-KIT-NEW-SEALED-BOX/272448107968

Ignore the salesman, complete rip off

I knew I could get the PDI kit and aftercare kit for less than £70 but with the protection pack as well, wasn't sure if it was worth it, especially with the warranty.

Ultimately I've refused it, but I'll either do it my self or get someone to do it.

The best part is the garentee is not worth the paper its written on, let me explain why. If the paint work starts to rust its nearly always down to stone chips, this does not come under the garentee, come to think of it neather does the skoda paint garrentee.

Its complete *******s, the stuff is ok, but dont buy it under the idea your compensated for any paint damage just be cause it says garrentee. Its garenteed if the product fails and proving it is impossible. You also have the manufactrers garentee if the is a real problem with the paint.

So my SE Sport has finally arrived in the UK at my local port...

The salesman is now trying the hard sell and isn't budging because they had to match a deal from Simpsons Skoda.

Think it's worth the £300?

You must be absolutely joking!

Not only can you buy lots of fuel for £300, you might also consider Tesco, Aldi, Waitrose, Favourite Wine Club, Halfords or even a few Xmas presents.

£5 should get you a bucket and sponge and I'm sure you have running water in your abode. When it gets dirty, wash it.

There are lots of new kits on eBay for less than £20. If you spend the day doing it yourself you'll know it's done properly and save a fortune.

Being offered this (again!) as my new car nears delivery.

 

Granted that you can get it done cheaper, but does it actually achieve anything significant applying these type of products at all? If so why wouldn't the manufacturers offer the treatment, at least as an option?

 

I've had my VRS since new in 2010 and only waxed it once or twice, put it through the car wash (when washed at all) and the worst issues on the paintwork are all un-repaired minor damage rather than any noticeable deterioration.

 

Granted I am far from a perfectionist, but I wager the value of my car now is the same with or without.       

it won't be 100% the same. 

If you don't clay it, you'll have crap bonded to the paint. If you don't wax it, you'll have dirt adhering to the paint, too, making the above problem worse. It's not uncorrectable but I'd suspect there's some ageing issues with clearcoat over time when it's not waxed on at least a semi-regular basis and exposed to lots of UV. Waxing also means that water doesn't hang around on the painted surfaces, and neither does dirt. Water is necessary to create rust and salt accelerates it, so I personally look to keep them relatively clean to ensure a long usable lifetime. That includes rinsing wheelarches out when possible. I'm not looking for concours, but a clean car simply looks better to me. If you leave - for example - bird poop on for a long time, it will eat into the clearcoat.

 

Sponges are terrible (or excellent depending on how you look at it) at adding microscratches, and carwashes do the same. You'll probably only see the difference immediately when you compare to a new car or when you look in the sunshine - you'll see all the swirl marks which is why it doesn't reflect as well as when it's new. "Waxes" like Super Resin have fillers to - literally - gloss over the issue and make it look better; EGP is a better sealant and works very well in combination with a nice wax (like cheap Collinite).  Any beading will probably only last three to six months, expecting more is unrealistic, especially if the car is washed regularly. I don't wash mine more than every month or so, more like six weeks, and I get a good six months of beading from the Collinite.

 

Why manufacturers aren't interested? The idea is to get the car to the dealers in a good shape, with its foil in place and without dings on the paintwork, so the dealer has to do the hard bit of preparing it for handover.

 

"doing it yourself" isn't necessarily something you can get right from the get-go - I'm surprised how soft the paint is on the Octy, never mind the Fiesta. I have rock-hard clear on the A2 and the Octy scratches way easier. It's coming up for another double wash (with a decent mitt and two buckets), clay, wash, EGP, wax, wait 24h, another wax. I'll vacuum, do the mats and wipe the inside down and feed the leather at the same time. It's an easy three-four hours depending on just how filthy it was. Most of the problems now are insects and a couple of stubborn stains on the driver's door I don't understand, which will have to wait until I clay it. 

 

If you have a decent detailer locally that will do it for £100-150, I'd seriously consider it after six months or so. Some of the prep I've seen from dealers is awful (my own car had a nice ring of wax around the antenna for some reason...).

 

 - Bret

Presumably you're decontaminating the paint before claying? IronX, tar remover etc?

25 minutes ago, brettikivi said:

Why manufacturers aren't interested? The idea is to get the car to the dealers in a good shape, with its foil in place and without dings on the paintwork, so the dealer has to do the hard bit of preparing it for handover.

 

 

But if its a really worthwhile addition to the handover prep, why don't top end manufacturers (where price isn't so much of an issue) include this as part of PDI?  The dealer then gets paid for each and every car, the cars delivered as standard are "better"....customers are happier....looks like a win win....

 

If, of course, its a worthwhile process in the first place.    

 

Granted if you're really into detailing it may give a better basis for your frequent clay and waxing etc, but as I'm not I remain unconvinced? 

   

Edited 21 August, 20178 yr by juan27

I got this with my car - dealer 'threw' it in for free... when haggling over price he put a value of about 150 euro it.. so could have knocked 150 euro of the price of the car.. ive mixed feelings about it.. they didn't clean off the excess of the coating properly from the black decals on the side of the car so they had a sort of smeared look about them. Like a dried in wax appearance.. it took some serious elbow grease with ipa and a microfiber to get it off.. which makes me believe that the coating itself might be quite durable.. ill still be applying wax regularly to the car after another few weeks.. reckoned id give the car about two months before starting. You also get a lifeshine kit with lots of bottles of autoglym... ive only used the tyre dressing so far and its not great. Its a milky white substance which has to be wiped off the alloys etc..

 

 

After I bought my car I had the "option" of having a protection pack added to the car for £300.

 

I declined as was not interested and it felt like a rip off.

 

Salesman informed me that it was already on the car as everyone buys it.

 

I informed the salesman to feel free and remove it.

 

Salesman declined, thus I got it for free assuming it was even applied in the first place.  

Would I have paid £300 for it even though I have it on my car? No, I don't see it as being any better than a good wax.

Salespeople, got to love them.  Some are so full of crap it is unbelievable.   £28 worth of nothing special fluids and a nice upselling bonus to a 'good' salesperson.

1 hour ago, Awayoffski said:

Salespeople, got to love them.  Some are so full of crap it is unbelievable.   £28 worth of nothing special fluids and a nice upselling bonus to a 'good' salesperson.

well to be fair... I suppose there's an hour of someone's time to apply it if done properly