Fair enough then. I guess I see the market for these and why you'd get one.

To answer the original question - would I own one? Still no.

They are there to address hassle free white goods motoring. If I wanted 'a car' I'd still buy for £1,000 or less and budget for some bodge jobs or getting another if it died but then bangernomics is probably a lot to swallow for many and I know why people would want to avoid the hassle.

And it's not the badge or the brand - these mean nothing to be honest. If they did a Dacia with a decent chassis, 220bhp or more, wind up windows and no stereo or air con I would be at the front of the queue.

They will do you a Track Day Ready Renault.

Non working electric windows might be OEM after the warranty expires.

 

& Dacia are going to be doing RS's just not for the UK. or at least they showed them plenty last year.

I can see the retirement bunch in my area buying them, cheap no worry motoring to shuffle into town once a week, and the occasional medical appointment. Bargain.

And it's not the badge or the brand - these mean nothing to be honest. If they did a Dacia with a decent chassis, 220bhp or more, wind up windows and no stereo or air con I would be at the front of the queue.

Bingo, life is too short for boring cars. I don't care about the badge but I've yet to see a Dacia that looks like it would be interesting and involving to drive...

Bingo, life is too short for boring cars. I don't care about the badge but I've yet to see a Dacia that looks like it would be interesting and involving to drive...

 

Dacia are where Skoda were 15 years ago, in 15 years you'll all be posting on " Bris-dacia "

My Son bought a Dacia Sandaro last year, he lives in London, The car lives at the  side of the road, will never get washed ( unless it's part of the service ) 1.2 petrol 70Bhp ( I think ).

 

Bought on Finance to get the 5 year warranty then paid off in full the next day, Dealer Discount, Brand new on the Road £5550.

 

Bargain, what more do you need in London.

Exactly!

It's a complete no-worries decision.

You wouldn't throw your keys into the circle though.............

I can see the retirement bunch in my area buying them, cheap no worry motoring to shuffle into town once a week, and the occasional medical appointment. Bargain.

Oi!

The entry level model at £5995 is very basic though, you don't even get a radio of any sort and get a dual slot cubby hole instead. Although it does come pre wired should you decide to fit an aftermarket unit.

 

• 15'' Tarkine wheel trims

• Black bumpers

• Black door handles

• Black door mirrors

Interior Features

• Black air vent surrounds

• Black central console surround

• Upholstery - Black Cerite cloth

• Black Door Handles (Front and Rear)

Visibility and Exterior Lighting

• Door mirrors - manually-adjustable

Comfort and Convenience

• 60/40 split folding rear seat (seatback only split)

• Manual front windows

• Manual rear windows

Communication and Connectivity

• Pre-wiring for accessory-fit radio

and speaker system

Edited 19 December, 20169 yr by mannyo

Most of those "features" are black plastic bits...

 

Re Morocco, most of the cars on the roads are 70's W123 Mercs, 80's Peugeot 205s or 12th Century donkey carts

 

Cant see many of these recycled CKD Renaults still around in 2056, can you?

 

The Dacia taxis over there must be fairly new (they're the same shape as this one) but they look just as tatty as the 30 year old 205 or Fiat Uno cabs do.

Edited 19 December, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

That's the 2016 model, the 2017 model has been updated but the price has not increased.

Updates to the Dacia Sandero mean it’s better value than ever, with more equipment and a new engine under the bonnet. the new 1.0-litre petrol’s low insurance group means it’s a good choice for young drivers

£5995 buys the regular Sandero model, which sports new headlight clusters with LED daytime running lights, a restyled front colour coded bumper and a new, more prominent grille. There are new tail-lights at the back, while different materials and more practical storage areas have been introduced inside.

Exterior equipment

15" TARKINE steel wheels

15" Steel wheels

Black door mirrors

Manually adjustable door mirrors

Daytime running lights

Tinted windows

Rear wash wipe

Black door handles

Black interior door handles

Manual rear windows

Manual front windows

Heated rear windscreen

Driving & safety

Power assisted steering

ESC (Electronic Stability Control) with ASR (Traction control) and Hill Start Assist (HSA)

Driver airbag

Passenger airbag with deactivation function

Tyre inflation kit

Tyre pressure monitor

Passenger airbag with de-activation function

Anti-lock braking system(ABS)

Front side airbags

Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)

Seating & trim

Height adjustable front headrests

Cerite cloth upholstery

3 x 3 point rear seatbelts

ISOFIX points for child seats in both outer rear seats

60/40 split folding rear seat

Heating & ventilation

4 speed heating and ventilation system

Instruments & controls

Gear shift indicator

Outside temperature sensor

Engine

Petrol Fuel Type

Multipoint sequential Injection Type

3 No. of Cylinders

12 No. of Valves

999 Induction Capacity (cc)

77(57) Maximum Power - hp DIN (kw ISO)

97 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN)

B4D 411 Engine Type

No Particle Filter

Euro 6 Emission Control Standard

Edited 19 December, 20169 yr by POWYSWALES

Surely not paying for a stereo is a good thing? You can get decent aftermarket setups with CarPlay etc, although I've yet to see a wireless one, for considerably less than some of the OEMs charge - how much is Columbus now?

It depends on the dealers but to me it seems like a fantastic buy for a city car. The only issue I would have I suspect is that there's no steering wheel adjustment on the lowest model.

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A thought occurs to me - if it's the old Clio in a new body I wonder if the Clio sport engine etc would drop right in. Would be one hell of a sleeper.

Edited 20 December, 20169 yr by gullyg

It's still a Renault in drag.

 

Pass me the plastic barge pole, please.

 

Never, ever again.  Been there, done it, suffered the unreliability and the financial consequences.

 

 

 

My 'built in South Africa'  Polo did 173k miles and the only real issue was the alternator pulley which stopped free-wheeling and was snapping off the belt tensioner bolts until we discovered the cause.  Otherwise it was just routine servicing.  I miss the old SDi engine.

Choices are good, you can buy a new Dacia for city use or pay twice as much for the likes of a SEAT.

After 3 years you will likely still have a Dacia that does all you need and has some value.

With the SEAT you might not even get enough selling or trading in anyplace other than at a SEAT Dealership to buy a New Dacia.

 

SEAT's are cars to buy as a Keeper or you lease them. they are about the worst depreciating cars on the market, 

and have the reliability that the VW Group offers, so not great really on lower end priced cars.

Edited 20 December, 20169 yr by Offski

Just what other dealers are going to take a Dacia in PX?

 

I found this out to my cost when running a Hyundai only a couple of years after they arrived in Britain...

 

The Dacia, like my Punto is a keeper. Buy new for 6k then throw it away when the MOTs get too expensive.

 

(11 years motoring for 6k that FIAT :thumbup: )

Edited 20 December, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

Likely not any, but if it is worth £1,000 or you can sell for £1,000 after 5 years it depreciated £1,000 a year. 

If it is a keeper even less.

Edited 20 December, 20169 yr by Offski

If you're a motoring nut, forget it, but if you don't need a car for daily use, don't have an off road space to park and you live with great public transport options in a big city, why have an expensive worry parked out the front let alone a 5 minute walk away.

Its reduction theory.

Re Morocco, most of the cars on the roads are 70's W123 Mercs, 80's Peugeot 205s or 12th Century donkey carts

 

Cant see many of these recycled CKD Renaults still around in 2056, can you?

 

The Dacia taxis over there must be fairly new (they're the same shape as this one) but they look just as tatty as the 30 year old 205 or Fiat Uno cabs do.

 

Having owned an 80's Peugeot 205, as good as it was I certainly wouldn't be saying that a 2017 Dacia isn't going to last as long.

I love the Dignitas-friendly colour choices on the configurator. 

Dacia are where Skoda were 15 years ago, in 15 years you'll all be posting on " Bris-dacia "

That's not really true is it? Škoda had nearly a hundred years of engineering experience behind them building their own designs. And not just cars but all forms of transport, buses, trams, trains etc.

Dacia was set up in the late sixties to build old Renaults, they have no history of building their own designs.

When Škoda were looking for investment they had talks with Renault at the same time as VW but all Renault wanted was a cheap factory to build their old cars, (they had at this point briefly terminated their agreement with Dacia but went back when the Škoda talks came to nothing).

There is an argument to say Škoda are now building rehashed VW's but they are at least current VW's. There's little doubt they made the right choice, otherwise we could now have Škoda Sanderos and I doubt this website would exist.

Okay, so this thread got me curious and I started looking into Dacia history and I found one of their cars I'd be happy to own.

This is a Dacia 1100S. Basically a Renault 8 Gordini.

@ Yoss,

 

I was meaning more down the line of 15/20 years ago Skoda were the joke of the car world and I think some folk think Dacia are the same.

 

If Dacia can follow the route of skoda they will do well.  

Dacia are where Skoda were 15 years ago, in 15 years you'll all be posting on " Bris-dacia "

 

RapiDacia, perhaps ?

Bo-Dacia-s ? (Bodacious - sorry, was watching Sill & Ted last night)

Darcia Sandaro and Stepway's destined for the UK  are built in Morocco.

 

My Stepway Laurette (14 months old) was built in Romania May 2015 and arrived a few weeks later. 

 

£10k for a brand new car, which is returning approx 60 mpg and shifts when it wants to, is pretty good. 

 

So far, the only issue we've had is the driver and a weird noise from the glovebox (probably related to the first issue.)

 

Within a week or two of collecting it, it began to resemble a golf ball where the wife found every way possible to dint and scratch it (ungrateful cow) lol

@ Yoss,

 

I was meaning more down the line of 15/20 years ago Skoda were the joke of the car world and I think some folk think Dacia are the same.

 

If Dacia can follow the route of skoda they will do well.

Yes fair point, I just couldn't let that comment go, sorry! But wether they can follow Škoda depends on wether Renault will let them.

RapiDacia, perhaps ?

Bo-Dacia-s ? (Bodacious - sorry, was watching Sill & Ted last night)

Rapidacia works well, I like that.

The challenge for Dacia is surely meeting modern emissions and safety standards at the price.

Hand-me-down engines and transmissions are obviously much advanced over time also...........they just aren't self indulgent