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I will carry on driving until the fuel is finished this time but wondering if i can use some kind of fuel additive to clean up the Injector. I used to buy one from my local shop which was the best in the world (£10).

Can we use fuel additive to clean the FUEL INJECTOR or DPF? if yes, then how we gonna pour them as fuel neck needs pressure to be opened up to enter the metal nozzle of the pump. I tried with an empty bottle of REDEX to see if i can use them, but couldn't feel comfortable. any idea or how you guys are doing it?

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You are better getting to know car before messing, doing trial and error when you have no idea what was done to it recently before you bought it.

See what you have, be sure there is good oil in the engine, fuel in the tank and then do work and spending if required.

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The car was owned by a company in Birmingham and therefore it has had it's Major service from SKODA Birmingham July 2015 and I believe they used all the correct materials for this car during the servicing. 

Do you use any fuel addtive for your car, what car do you drive?

Hi, I think from reading your more recent posts that you have grasped the concept of trip overall mpg and recent long term overall mpg and if I read correctly trip overall mpg of 50+ ( whilst still getting to know your ' new ' car ) would seem more the normal expectation

on this site there are numerous posts regarding driving difference between the old pd Diesel engines and the newer CR engines, essentially one could be driven like a nun on her way to Sunday school ( the PD ) yet drive the CR like this ( it needs high revs before gear changes ) and the mpg is drastically lower so as others have advised you need to learn how to get the best from your car, it isn't your previous Citroen yet once you get used to it hopefully it will be held in similar regard 

 

I think it's dangerous to refer back to a service in 2015 which is nearly 2 years ago when you don't know how the car has been used or more importantly how long it's been standing waiting to be bought, I'd have insisted on a service before I bought the car and then seriously consider a yearly service or at least an oil and filter change from now on

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1 hour ago, automass said:

 

already dealer had to replace the fuel tank before buying it.

Do you know why?

 

Had a previous owner filled up with petrol instead of diesel?

 

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Thank you davidwhite..I liked what you say and its logical. Thats why I called to SKODA before buying it..they said there wasn't any issue with the car and their record shows it was serviced regulalarly by fillowing the service manual interval (every two years or 20k miles). and as far as I can remember, seller said it had its last servicing not too long ago..in the system it also shows next servicing will be due on 665days.

 

When I bought this car, i took it straight to fuel pump to load tank as it was nearly empty..on first attempt Nozzle went inside but cut off after 62 pennies worth diesel..then I tried many times..(DEFINITELY IT WAS DIEGEL AND REGULAR SIZE OF NOZZLE IN TEXACO) didn't work..brouhht back to the dealer..they found filler neck to be damaged and need replacig...following day they called me and said they need whole tank replacement as neck doesn't come separately from the dealer. And I got my car ready later of the other day.

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Was the car owned by a Company in Birmingham or were they the Registered Keeper and VW Finance owned the car.

 

Full Skoda Main Dealer Service History and Variable servicing might well be on the record and there Warranty or Software Update Enhancements 

but anyone can have Remapped or run a tuning box.

 

So just get to know the car, have it serviced and then you know what you have now, 

unless you know the past drivers you have no real info other than the Stuff a Skoda / VW Computer shows, 

and those can be fiction sometimes.

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The car was owned by a company based on Birmingham. i bought the car without service book. that's why I made it sure by calling SKODA that this car was well looked after and properly serviced. and they also confirmed me same. next week i'll pay a visit to them to get the stamp of previous services on the new service book that i will be buying from them.

Skoda UK Customer Services or the Dealership can just print out on their system the information no need for a service book.

Hand those print out with the Dealership Service Desk employees name which they can sign if selling the car.

 

You could Email the Birmingham Companies Manager or call and ask if the car performed OK or if there were any issues while they owned it.

Edited by Awayoffski

If it was my car I would start from a level playing field by having a full service and converting to normal 10k miles, 12 months service plan. These engines thrive on regular oil changes. long service intervals are intended for company sales reps etc who do daily long motorway journeys.

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On 25/02/2017 at 00:44, AllanDJ said:

As others have said the quoted mpg figures from Skoda are a complete work of fiction, I was quite annoyed when I bought my car to realise how far apart the actual versus the ideal figures actually were.

 

Exactly.

 

I know all manufacturers do it but Skoda seem to have taken "creative marketing" to an entirely different level!

 

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Thanks for the advice pikpilot. if this car is okay for fuel consumption I'll be intending to do the same though I don't know if it will be possible to change the mileage in the car computer from 20k to 10k. but at the moment I am very upset with the way it consume fuel. So I will test it and take it back to car giant at the end of this full tank.

 

and i am definitely sure that servicing wouldn't be an issue for consuming fuel like crazy and it isn't that old car or left for long time without servicing. It had major servicing from SKODA July 2015 and again before MOT JAN 2017 it had interim service.

 

So there should be something else.

4 hours ago, automass said:

I will carry on driving until the fuel is finished this time but wondering if i can use some kind of fuel additive to clean up the Injector. I used to buy one from my local shop which was the best in the world (£10).

Can we use fuel additive to clean the FUEL INJECTOR or DPF? if yes, then how we gonna pour them as fuel neck needs pressure to be opened up to enter the metal nozzle of the pump. I tried with an empty bottle of REDEX to see if i can use them, but couldn't feel comfortable. any idea or how you guys are doing it?

I would not build your hopes up using fuel treatments, im sure that the manufacturer does not endorse any fuel treatment. May be they did somthing years ago for the average cortina, what your buying is mostly paraffin anyway. 

 

If you suspect there is a problem take it back and ask them there opinion. I would also be tempted to find out who the previous owner was and what sort of miles it has covered. It could have had a very little use or the wrong type of use, ie it needs a good clean out get the dpf stinking hot.

 

The other point is the fuel economy is no where near the official figures as vw group have just thought of a number and doubled it. 

 

 

Edited by Alpha2110

It is not consuming fuel like crazy according to the posts from the first one.

It is now.  You need to be more chilled, give things time...  Like getting economy from a not very economic car.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes 

 

PS

Answer to a question you asked.

I have a 2.0TDI 150 ps SCR / DSG Seat Alhambra that should give terrible MPG as it is such a heavy monster,

it does 40 mpg easy and can do 60 mpg plus on runs.  (16 mpg indicated starting off and in 30 mph limits)

'Coasting function' the best thing since sliced bread, and Stop / Start.

But that needs to be after the 10-20 miles it takes to even have the oil showing into the 90's Degrees, then it sips fuel.

Weather dependent etc.

Edited by Awayoffski

Please make yourself 100% clear has the car mpg improved since you bought or not ?

 

If it still isn't giving an overall mpg of what you consider acceptable is there  a possibility that following the fuel tank replacement ( indeed does it look like the fuel tank has been replaced I would have thought this would have been more than a couple of hours work yet I believe you infer yours was diagnosed with a faulty filler neck, needed a new complete tank which was done the same day ? has this been checked as actually being done ? ) there may be a fuel leak ?

Maybe helpful if you named the selling dealer, please ?

Contact the previous owner they may have more details or even the service book ( however if I was to find out the service book was released with the car I would be mighty suspicious that it was no longer with the car and that would start all sort of alarm bells ringing but I don't trust car dealers, they ain't nick named ' stealers ' with no just cause !! ) it would certainly be helpful if you could find out why they sold the car and if they knew of any faults or issues on it ( ie filled with petrol by mistake )

Would it be possible you are worrying that you have bought a bad car and these issues you refer to are festering in you mind because you have doubts, are you in the AA or RAC and able to get the car independently checked or do you have a reputable ' friendly ' garage or mechanic your can express your concerns to and get an unbiased report ?

 

Buying a used car is a minefield and there are dealers out there who will without doubt take advantage of the non educated or ' street wise ' buyer, FACT END OF 

 

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mpg improved as i went 62 miles motorway driving last night. if you have read all my posts you might understand the reason of fuel tank change..I am briefly telling here again..i took the car to the fuel station and failed to load the tank with fuel as nozzle was not getting inside. first time it went inside but cut off within couple of seconds. Brought straight back tot hem and they found the filler neck to be damaged.  I don't know how if it was done by me or someone else. Once i get the v5c then i know the name of the company who owned it previously. I will then try to contact to them.

I bought the car from cargiant. they seem very friendly and caring people. car price is not exorbitant like original dealer.

Fingers crossed you continue to see an increase in the mpg shown, the car proves to be a good purchase hence you feel more comfortable that you have indeed made the right choice, good luck

Small point.

The V5 does not show who owned the car only who or where it was First Registered to as the Registered Keeper.

So that means very little, but then again maybe they bought it and traded it in, who knows, them probably.

 

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1 hour ago, davidwhite said:

Fingers crossed you continue to see an increase in the mpg shown, the car proves to be a good purchase hence you feel more comfortable that you have indeed made the right choice, good luck

 

I spent quite a lot of money to buy this car..so i want it to perform as it should and will regularly maintain it to get the best out of it.

 

BTW, do you guys hear fuel sloshing noise in your mk3 car? I found thread in mk2 forum regarding this and some people admitted that they have this sound.

2 hours ago, automass said:

mpg improved as i went 62 miles motorway driving last night. if you have read all my posts you might understand the reason of fuel tank change..I am briefly telling here again..i took the car to the fuel station and failed to load the tank with fuel as nozzle was not getting inside. first time it went inside but cut off within couple of seconds. Brought straight back tot hem and they found the filler neck to be damaged.  I don't know how if it was done by me or someone else. Once i get the v5c then i know the name of the company who owned it previously. I will then try to contact to them.

I bought the car from cargiant. they seem very friendly and caring people. car price is not exorbitant like original dealer.

 

This answers the reason of the fuel tank requiring a replacement, but it does not answer the question as to how it managed to get damaged in the first place.

IMO at least, this is a very unusual situation of the fuel tank filler neck getting damaged.

 

I understand that you do not know how it got damaged, but it makes me wonder if that was damaged??? then what else might have been damaged by the cause of this.

 

And fps (for petes sake) give the mpg a chance to increase. On a short journey it WILL be low.

 

(ps) Don't ask me who pete is.

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Well, they spent whole days to replace the tank and other bits and bobs. they went for road test drive afterwards to make sure everything was ok. I have a basic diagnostic tool which i used just awhile ago to see if there were any fault codes stored in the car, but nothing found.

I am keeping trip computer as it is until the fuel indicator comes to the red light. then i will calculate for the accurate MPG, but i got a feeling that I wont get good MPG from it.

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