OK, first off,  It;s not for me it's for my eldest  who's just passed his test  :D:D

 

Honest,,  i run a 3.0 flat six 4x4 :D,  so a 1.3 FWD non PAS  has very little interest,

 

Well apart from the mechanical bits

 

Been to look at a 1.3 Felicia today, 

 

Its not the best but here goes

 

1.3 popular on a W plate.  

 

Body is a bit scabby with tin worm on the rear arches. 

 

it starts and runs ...

 

slight pull to the left when driving, but no worse than a normal car on camber.

 

Its got no PAS, so a slight bit of dead feel in the straight ahead position ..... hw much is normal?

 

Corners well.   Brakes are perfect, stops in a stright line,

 

no clutch slip from 30mph roll on, but isnt the fastest at pulling away   but is quite nippy

 

 

4 brand new tyres

 

All reciepts for work done from day 1  - service history etc

 

Now the questionables

 

Tickover is ok, but every so often dips then recovers, as though something is switching  in an out.

 

Temp gauge not working , unpluging and reconnecting got some movement, to 70, but slow to move from there.

 

The header tank has coolant circulating  and is hot. 

 

The fan cuts in and out,   so i'm guessing the temp sensor is on its way out or dead

 

Now the potential problems

 

in 2011, it shows as overheated during the MOT  - low coolant. 

 

and play in the steering rack 

 

nothing since ..

 

Last MOT it failed on emmisions 

Exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits (7.3.D.3)

Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content at idle excessive (7.3.D.4)

Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases sdilencer (7.1.2)

 

I'm guessing the exhaust was fubarred

 

 

Now the 64,000 dollar question.

 

 

It only done a few hundred miles since the last MOT  - but it runs out at the end of the month.

 

There open to offers on the asking price so i asked if the would re-mot, and we,d give  the asking price.

 

they refused, but they agreed to knock £50 off the asking price.

 

provisionally they've agreed the sale if my son likes the test drive.

 

Do we go for it ...    worst case we spend £500 on Mot repairs for a years motoring ..

 

Best case it goes straight through.

 

or is the tickover symptom a warning of somthing else? more expensive

 

 

 

mart

There's lots of information you failed to share with us. The most obvious: the mileage. Photos missing too. If you want a decent answer, show us what you see. Price? Missing. Budget? Missing. Etc.

 

Based on your (lack of) information I'd say look for a better maintained Felicia. It's your money, it's your decision.

OK 

 

 

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Forgot to add,  all handbooks, original bill of sale, recipits for all work done  - services  parts etc from day one

 

2001 Felicia - Green   58K miles  3 owners  

 

 

Bodywork is scabby  -

 

 

Mot  history

 

• Vehicle make SKODA
• Vehicle model FELICIA
• Date first used 10 August 2000
• Fuel type Petrol
• Colour Green

 

MOT history of this vehicle

• Test date 2 July 2016
• Expiry date 25 July 2017
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 52,186 miles
• MOT test number 3591 6874 1596
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

• Test date 1 July 2016
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 52,186 miles
• MOT test number 7094 2945 8349
• Reason(s) for failure
  Exhaust emissions Lambda reading after 2nd fast idle outside specified limits (7.3.D.3)

  Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content at idle excessive (7.3.D.4)

  Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases sdilencer (7.1.2)
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

• Test date 14 July 2015
• Expiry date 25 July 2016
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 51,195 miles
• MOT test number 4496 3559 5138
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Front Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Front Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Oil leak

  o/s rear tyre over 10 years old

• Test date 16 July 2014
• Expiry date 25 July 2015
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 50,236 miles
• MOT test number 1383 2769 4108
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)

  Offside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)

• Test date 17 July 2013
• Expiry date 25 July 2014
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 49,147 miles
• MOT test number 3460 6809 3157
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Oil leak

  Items removed from driver's view prior to test

• Test date 17 July 2013
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 49,144 miles
• MOT test number 9284 8819 3198
• Reason(s) for failure
  Brakes imbalanced across an axle (3.7.B.5b)
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Oil leak

  Items removed from driver's view prior to test

  spare tyre under inflated

• Test date 17 July 2012
• Expiry date 25 July 2013
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 47,947 miles
• MOT test number 5358 9929 2169
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear wheel bearing has slight play (2.6.2)

  Play in steering rack inner joint(s)

  n/r wheel arch corroding

  o/r wheel arch corroding

• Test date 17 July 2012
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 47,947 miles
• MOT test number 2659 7969 2470
• Reason(s) for failure
  Nearside Headlamp aim too high (1.8)

  Offside Headlamp aim too high (1.8)

  Offside Steering rack gaiter insecure (2.2.D.2d)
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

  Offside Rear wheel bearing has slight play (2.6.2)

  Play in steering rack inner joint(s)

  n/r wheel arch corroding

  o/r wheel arch corroding

• Test date 20 July 2011
• Expiry date 25 July 2012
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 46,614 miles
• MOT test number 5182 1170 1224
• Advisory notice item(s)
  coolant level low, engine overheats

• Test date 20 July 2011
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 46,614 miles
• MOT test number 3961 7190 1447
• Reason(s) for failure
  Offside Headlamp not working on main beam (1.7.5a)
• Advisory notice item(s)
  coolant level low, engine overheats

• Test date 21 July 2010
• Expiry date 25 July 2011
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 465,246 miles
• MOT test number 9839 6220 0214

• Test date 21 July 2009
• Expiry date 25 July 2010
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 43,931 miles
• MOT test number 8825 5220 9214

• Test date 17 July 2008
• Expiry date 25 July 2009
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 42,820 miles
• MOT test number 2639 6979 8122

• Test date 17 July 2007
• Expiry date 25 July 2008
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 41,313 miles
• MOT test number 4911 6869 7160
• Advisory notice item(s)
  spare tyre under inflated.

  n/s/f outer CV gator inner clip missing.

• Test date 26 July 2006
• Expiry date 25 July 2007
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 39,326 miles
• MOT test number 4314 1760 6237
• Advisory notice item(s)
  as test 893127706292

• Test date 26 July 2006
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 39,326 miles
• MOT test number 8931 2770 6292
• Reason(s) for failure
  Nearside Outer Front constant velocity joint gaiter split (2.5.C.1a)

  Offside Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)

  Offside Headlamp aim beam image too far to the right (1.6.B4)
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear wheel bearing has slight play (2.6.2)

  Offside Rear wheel bearing has slight play (2.6.2)

 

 

My sons budget is low  - costs to put any small car on the road are  around £2150 for the first year -  taking £1000 for the car  £1000 insurance & 150 road tax

 

Most of whats in the £750 - £1000 price range needs a cambelt, thats anywhere from £150 to £300  depending on make. 

 

the Polo he's just looked at was £795 and needed a cambelt  (overdue) & 2 x tyres within 1000 miles

 

and  the brakes given a good strip and clean.   The dealer would drop the price by £95, but with a steady stream of new drivers, its an easy market.  

 

It would have been over £1000  with cambelt, tyres & brake work.

 

The Skoda, on the other hand has no cambelt, is going for a song, drives fine, has 4 new tyres, & brakes in a straight line fan cuts in and out, heater works etc

 

The only issue i could see was the temp gauge not working, and the idle dropping then comming back up,   looking on here i'd say its thermostat related.

 

works case if we take the car and its a lemon, i'm   £115 out of pocket.

 

At such a low price he could afford to pay £500 to put it through the mot, and get a years motoring out of it

 

Mart

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 July, 20178 yr by Santa2512

On 7/11/2017 at 01:15, Santa2512 said:

Direction indicator slightly discoloured (1.4.A.2f)

 Give me a break...

The legislators have waaay too much free time on their hands therefore everything is heavily regulated. It might have to do with the normal British way of life but in here such overzealous rules wouldn't stand for a day.

 

Now, given the history of the car, I suspect it was neglected for financial reasons by previous owners. What I fail to understand is this: why do you need our advice when you have all data available and all options on the table? As I've said, it's your decision.

14 hours ago, RicardoM said:

 Give me a break...

The legislators have waaay too much free time on their hands therefore everything is heavily regulated. It might have to do with the normal British way of life but in here such overzealous rules wouldn't stand for a day.

 

Now, given the history of the car, I suspect it was neglected for financial reasons by previous owners. What I fail to understand is this: why do you need our advice when you have all data available and all options on the table? As I've said, it's your decision.

Great,

You join a forum to ask a question about a marque youve had little exposure to, and you get set upon by the resident troll!

 

I'm quite capable of reading an MOT sheet  and understandng why items failed. 

 

What i was trying to establish is were there any foibles associated with the felicia model that  may be the reasons for the MOT failures.

 

Your sarcastic comments are neither wanted or welcomed.

 

 

 

I'm guessing that the thermostat is either stuck open or has been removed hence the temperature guage not rising.

 

As for idle possibly a dirty throttle body.

 

As for rust on the rear arches i would be aware of possible rust else where.

22 hours ago, RicardoM said:

 Give me a break...

The legislators have waaay too much free time on their hands therefore everything is heavily regulated. It might have to do with the normal British way of life but in here such overzealous rules wouldn't stand for a day.

Now, given the history of the car, I suspect it was neglected for financial reasons by previous owners. What I fail to understand is this: why do you need our advice when you have all data available and all options on the table? As I've said, it's your decision.

 

The (MOT) 'legislators' are just reporting what is required by law. The 'questionables' are what the OP is interested in and this is why helpful advice is being asked for! The MOT (test) only informs of the problems and not causes!

 

7 hours ago, Santa2512 said:

Great,

You join a forum to ask a question about a marque youve had little exposure to, and you get set upon by the resident troll!

I'm quite capable of reading an MOT sheet  and understandng why items failed.

What i was trying to establish is were there any foibles associated with the felicia model that  may be the reasons for the MOT failures.

Your sarcastic comments are neither wanted or welcomed.

 

Ricardo may not understand all the idiosyncrasies of the English language but we've yet to allocate the 'troll' badge to any of the members.

 

Hopefully all further posts from hereon in will be on topic, constructive and respectful.

9 hours ago, nu99et18 said:

I'm guessing that the thermostat is either stuck open or has been removed hence the temperature guage not rising.

 

As for idle possibly a dirty throttle body.

 

As for rust on the rear arches i would be aware of possible rust else where.

You may be right, the gauge moves to 70 and then stops.  

 

Ive looked on ebay and can pick up an oe thermostat pack quite cheaply 

 

Once its through the MOT on saturday, and we can see what we have to do we can factor that into the work

 

Interstingly on the second test drive, it didnt hunt at all, it just ticked over quite nicley

 

 

Well,  Car picked up this evening  and driven home by eldest son !

 

No problems appeared evident on the journey home.

 

The couple he bought it from, want to know the outcome of the MOT

 

Went through the paperwork ,  all recipets from & including original purchase to last year, full service history to 2014 (50K miles)

 

All MOTS. emmisions  history etc.

 

All hand books,  service centre book,  radio instructions, quick start quide , & the envelope with the  stereo removal tools in it!

 

 fingers crossed for tomorow

 

 

Well, an update to the topic.

 

The Skoda failed it's MOT :(  

 

Corrosion in a prescribed area   - rear wheel arches / seatbelt mount points ... 

 

Cost to fix ..£120 

 

No Advisories  -   

 

The emmisions were spot on, so i think its the temp sensor  i'll get one on order in a couple of minutes...

 

Its just remove the circlip  - pull out sensor  - refit sensor  refit circlip ??  does it loose coolant at all?

 

 

mart

 

 

Yes that's correct,  you probably will loose some coolant so best doing it with the engine cold. 

On 13/07/2017 at 12:20, Santa2512 said:

Great,

You join a forum to ask a question about a marque youve had little exposure to, and you get set upon by the resident troll!

 

I'm quite capable of reading an MOT sheet  and understandng why items failed. 

 

What i was trying to establish is were there any foibles associated with the felicia model that  may be the reasons for the MOT failures.

 

Your sarcastic comments are neither wanted or welcomed.

 

7

 

I'm afraid I'm more inclined to agree with each passing moment of late. 

 

Most, most of us are more inclined to offer a balance. However, we are an international site and do welcome all, from all. Different perspectives are interesting, but should respect we're over 75% uk based.  

 

I also made a rod for my own back when I set about being inclusionary over exclusionary. Although with enough prodding, even a sedated bee's nest will eventually come to it's senses. 

 

I also had similar thoughts about an old felly, spoke to a member here, we discussed it, sounded the pro's and con's.

 

Only when written out did the reality and decision become clear, for me it was a no. It seems on this you have a lot of information and knowledge. I think in this age, condition, needs to be a gut, or a gamble on future expenses. But it will be a good experience for your lad. Some breakdown cover  if it passes the MOT.

 

HTH.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 15 July 2017 at 11:42, Santa2512 said:

Well, an update to the topic.

 

The Skoda failed it's MOT :(  

 

Corrosion in a prescribed area   - rear wheel arches / seatbelt mount points ... 

 

Cost to fix ..£120 

 

No Advisories  -  

 

 

mart

 

 

 

Genuinely please for you and the lad, I remember my dads Felicia nice little car prompted me to have 4 Skoda's since,

if you proceed with the welding get the car checked front to back, a few extra quid now may save a failure next mot time, it's always best to be proactive with rust than reactive ( and cheaper )

hope all goes well and you end up with a tidy car

Car was welded,

 

Coolant temp sensor changed, 

 

Car was washed, paint cut, polished, waxed,  rain X'd and new wipers fitted.

 

An Hour and a quarter ago, my eldest set off on his first drive home in his new car ...  Eeek!!!  .... (He's just phoned me to say he arrived home safely )

 

He has breakdown & recovery ... too

 

Just going to do a coolant change next week,  it was running at about 100c according to my lad when he called me, and it went to 110c when he nipped out a bit later for fuel

 

didnt hit the red . I know the fan works, and the ccolant was on the weak side, so a new stat unit, flush & refill wont go a miss

 

Mart