41 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

David Davis MP.

 lets not mix him up with anyone who might be Welsh.

She chose the right Minister for BREXIT, one that really seems not to give a sh!te about what Continental European Politicians want.

Thanks for the typo correction George.

 

Got to say .as with all politicians , especially Cabinet Ministers with little experience in "real negotiations " in Real Life, March 2019 will expose all I'm afraid.

Vince Cable ,over the weekend, got it just about right on the Brexit vote!!

He is pretty well qualified i think.

He will be able to put sugar in the tanks or their ministerial cars, or just in the tanks even in their pants,

and if needs must knows many ways to kill them with a unsharpened pencil or a credit card.

Or just use the UK Credit card and pay them what they were asking for and his buddies were saying 'no way Jose'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davis_(British_politician) 

 

Edited 7 August, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

17 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

He is pretty well qualified i think.

He will be able to put sugar in the tanks their ministerial cars, or just in the tanks,

and if needs must knows many ways to kill them with a unsharpened pencil or a credit card.

Or just use the UK Credit card and pay them what they were asking for and his buddies were saying 'no way Jose'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davis_(British_politician) 

 

Sweetens the pill, as you say George - this VERY experienced negotiator! Negotiate his way out of a Tate & Lyle bag of tricks??

'Money For Your Motors' website are currently doing a nationwide survey on peoples opinions and expectations for the future of diesel motors.

 

Guess they are deciding as to reduce their offers prices for diesels, or not. Two guesses which way they will go???

That...and doing surveys is a great way of cheap 'advertising'  and getting news and social media space 'adverising' / coverage,  of your company.  Comando or is that Gorilla advertising by Commissiong surveys.  RAC survey on mobile phone use as a recent example.    RAC is a company is it not,  not a motoring club!

49 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

That...and doing surveys is a great way of cheap 'advertising'  and getting news and social media space 'advertising' / coverage,  of your company.  Commando or is that Geurrilla advertising by Commissioning surveys.  RAC survey on mobile phone use as a recent example.    RAC is a company is it not,  not a motoring club!

Spelling corrections inline, bold.

 

Oh and you're right about "The RAC", which is a limited company created by the Royal Automobile Club selling its recovery insurance arm off.

@KenONeill He only creates the spelling mistakes to give you something to do.

Or because i was typing while driving and having a fag while not using a spell checker!

Or was that auto correct that did the bad spelling?

Edited 9 August, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

1 hour ago, KenONeill said:

2 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

That...and doing surveys is a great way of cheap 'advertising'  and getting news and social media space 'advertising' / coverage,  of your company.  Commando or is that Geurrilla advertising by Commissioning surveys.  RAC survey on mobile phone use as a recent example.    RAC is a company is it not,  not a motoring club!

Spelling corrections inline, bold.

 

Guerilla...

16 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

Or because i was typing while driving and having a fag while not using a spell checker!

Or was that auto correct that did the bad spelling?

I blame auto "second guess you and get it wrong" er correct then!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-group-diesel-trade-incentives-considered-uk

To the EV naysayers, I know it's probably been pointed out before ad nauseam, but range issues are an edge case for most.  The average UK worker travels 17 miles to work.  For most, an EV makes a lot of sense, especially as a second car.  Yes travelling sales folks need a different option - completely agree but there's no need to write them off.

It's like saying that people couldn't possibly manage with cars that don't have 4x4.  It snows sometimes you know!  they'll be left stranded!  Some people are farmers who drive around mucky lanes all day, so 2 wheel drive cars are just a joke.

In reality, most people never need 4 wheel drive.  If it snows - they make alternative arrangements.  Nobody is going to make farmers have 2 wheel drive cars.

 

Genuine question around the power generation required for EVs as I've wondered about this to.  Surely industry consumes a huge amount of power during the working day.  We currently have no real means of storing energy in the grid (I've been to electric mountain - it's fascinating but only really good to boil kettles during the soap breaks).  When the daytime demand from industry drops off in the night, do we shutdown a lot of power generation?  As most EVs will primarily charge overnight, could they just keep running and supply the EVs?

7 minutes ago, dg360 said:

To the EV naysayers, I know it's probably been pointed out before ad nauseam, but range issues are an edge case for most.  The average UK worker travels 17 miles to work.  For most, an EV makes a lot of sense, especially as a second car.  

I can't afford a "second car", and being single have no actual need for one anyway.

 

Your "edge case" means that I would no longer be able to do things that I presently do every month.

By second car I mean second car in the family, that a lot of people run.  

Feel free to continue driving your diesel Octavia, not that you need my permission of course  your circumstances make it an entirely reasonable choice.  

I'm sure that there are a lot of other vehicles that also fall into the unsuitable category.  A bus, HGV, JCB and many others would also be unsuitable, but they don't seem to get the bashing - it's just recognized that it's horses for course.

I think for EV this picture of the hype cycle despite being joky is probably about right

 

 

I think we're just starting to climb up to ev becoming a practical option for the majority. My guess is within 5yr there will be a quite a big chance. The Tesla 3 will drive things on a bit and other vehicles will come on market as well.

 

But I think power generation and a lack of investment in the grid is probably going to be the biggest bottleneck. As usual the solution will be to ramp up the price of electricity to pay for the investment. And also to pick up the fall in revenue from fuel duty.

Edited 11 August, 20178 yr by Aspman

18 hours ago, dg360 said:

To the EV naysayers, I know it's probably been pointed out before ad nauseam, but range issues are an edge case for most.  The average UK worker travels 17 miles to work.  For most, an EV makes a lot of sense, especially as a second car.

The main issue I forsee is charging.

Already we have mobile phones that people forget to charge all the time, despite everyone knowing you have to charge them every night. Difference with EVs is that this leaves you stranded. You can't carry a spare battery and it will be many years before we can super-fast-über-charge a car at 350kw from home.

I see it already with the people at work who have Renault Zoes and Nissan Leaves - Your life revolves around detailed planning to the limitations of your EV, instead of there being options to facilitate your journey.

 

Another issue is cost.

I'm right down at the bottom end of the scale, where I can't afford anything more than a grand (with some good fortune and maybe a tax rebate) - It will be decades before a decent 2nd hand EV and the relevant charging facilities are cheap enough to replace my diesel... and that's assuming prices of ownership don't skyrocket to generate maximum profit for whoever runs the industry. 

 

Plus, they're just ugly. A few look nice from outside, but are such spartan Apple Store designs inside that they're horrid. We'll be crying out for self-drive, just because driving is no longer a pleasure.

Ford Mondeo Diesel under the German microscope.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/german-authorities-investigate-diesel-ford-mondeo

Seems that since the Focus and C-Max have already been tested and passed they are trying to find a model by Ford that will fail to deflect from their own manufacturers. 

 

Quote

“In addition, the UK Government’s Department for Transport tests in 2016 on the Mondeo 2.0 TCDi noted that there was no evidence of test cycle manipulation. We continue to work with the KBA and are confident that its investigation also will confirm that there is no illegal defeat device fitted to the car.”

 

I'll guess at not finding anything wrong the Mondeo either. 

Never rains....

Ford is already under the microscope of the Australian Authorities over the Auto Box failures and treatment or dishonesty of dealers and Ford Australia

towards owners.

Innocent until found guilty obviously, and then further investigations happen in other countries.  I wonder what will happen in the US, if anything.

 

Looks like TATA has put on hold any links with the VAG ,I wonder why?