41 minutes ago, TMB said:

I don't know why they bother with the glide pads. Every other car I've had just had the shoes rubbing against raised metal areas on the backplate. German engineering I suppose. Ha

That's why they lost WWII :-)

But somehow now is living far better that rest of eastern Europe.

Just now, indars said:

That's why they lost WWII :-)

But somehow now is living far better that rest of eastern Europe.

 

Haha

Damn. Want Octy3 to forget about drum brake mess hahaha (and get another mess)...family is growing too...Furby get's older...ehhh...

Was nice weather this morning so I managed to get both sides done. Wino, your tip about installing the shoes before the wheel cylinder was spot-on. You can easily get the shoes in without the wheel cylinder fitted and then fit the cylinder afterwards by opening the top of the shoes. And good job I bought the glide pads as a few of them had fallen to bits! Also checked handbrake cables and they are working freely on both sides.

 

Edited 4 August, 20178 yr by TMB

On 30/07/2017 at 14:58, gordyboy1 said:

Cheers, do your shoes look to sit to the rear of the pistons??

 

Am able to give you an answer to this now - mine sit pretty much bang in the middle of the pistons.

 

Like this (pic not mine)...

 

 

Edited 5 August, 20178 yr by TMB

@TMB pretty sure your not supposed to put axle stands on the rear beam for some reason. Says it in the manual

7 hours ago, clarendon462 said:

@TMB pretty sure your not supposed to put axle stands on the rear beam for some reason. Says it in the manual

 

Yes, you're not supposed to jack or use axle stands on the rear beam. I like to live dangerously.

13 hours ago, clarendon462 said:

@TMB pretty sure your not supposed to put axle stands on the rear beam for some reason. Says it in the manual

 

Yes, I agree, but that statement is to stop idiots jacking/supporting the car somewhere, maybe even in the middle of the cross beam - what TMB did was to use the tubular ends of the rear torsion bar/beam/hub fixing point, and that will support the weight of the car, well that is where the weight ends up being carried in normal use?

9 minutes ago, rum4mo said:

 

Yes, I agree, but that statement is to stop idiots jacking/supporting the car somewhere, maybe even in the middle of the cross beam - what TMB did was to use the tubular ends of the rear torsion bar/beam/hub fixing point, and that will support the weight of the car, well that is where the weight ends up being carried in normal use?

 

I thought it was to do with the fact its a hollow beam and all that weight resting on a small metal pad of the axle stand could cause it to bend the beam.

Yes its designed to take the weight but from the hubs which are welded onto the ends of the beam and spread the load evenly.

Im sure TMB knows what their doing just wanted to point it out in case anyone tried to follow 

Okay, but the base/shoe/etc of the axle stand is curved a bit so will spread the load, any where else round about there even closer down towards the actual hub area may well have lots of welds so a support would typically be making contact over a very small area, that tube will be strong enough for that use, and that is why, with his knowledge, I'm assuming he chose that convenient area to support the car on.

Every time I get anything done to the rear tyres they always jack it up on the rear beam. Every man and his dog does it.

When I was doing the brakes I noticed the rear hub bearings sound horrible when I spin them, they sound dry and there is a metallic scraping as though a ball cage has broken up or something. Strangely there seems to be no noise at all from them when driving the car but I have bought new bearings as I don't like the sound of them.

 

 

 

Edited 8 August, 20178 yr by TMB

Oh, FAG bearing/hub assemblies, who sells FAG ones?  I thought that I was going to end up replacing one of them on my daughter's late 2009 Ibiza as I wrote a comment in my records about the N/S one a couple of years ago, but then found that I made a comment about the O/S the next year I cleaned up these brakes, now neither side sounds bad!  I did check up on ECP and GSF to see what brands they were selling - just in case, before cleaning up the rear brakes.

 

Edit:- both times that I made a comment it was to say that it sounded like a ball was missing.

Edited 8 August, 20178 yr by rum4mo

25 minutes ago, rum4mo said:

Oh, FAG bearing/hub assemblies, who sells FAG ones?  I thought that I was going to end up replacing one of them on my daughter's late 2009 Ibiza as I wrote a comment in my records about the N/S one a couple of years ago, but then found that I made a comment about the O/S the next year I cleaned up these brakes, now neither side sounds bad!  I did check up on ECP and GSF to see what brands they were selling - just in case, before cleaning up the rear brakes.

 

Edit:- both times that I made a comment it was to say that it sounded like a ball was missing.

 

I got them on ebay. This seller http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-FAG-Wheel-Bearing-Kit-713610490-Audi-A1-A2-Seat-Skoda-Fabia-VW-Polo/263026546894?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

Mine sound horrible when spun by hand. The noise is definitely not normal for a good bearing.

Have done both rear bearings this morning. The old ones have ''VW AG'' stamped on them so may have been on the car since new.

 

FAG bearings are junk, still they should last the remaining life of the car easily enough.

10 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

FAG bearings are junk, still they should last the remaining life of the car easily enough.

 

Why are they junk?

10 minutes ago, TMB said:

 

Why are they junk?

 

Because they're cheap and wear out fast, why else?

I don't call £42.54 for one bearing cheap. And they were made in the Czech Republic not somewhere like China. I could have paid half that amount for a cheapo bearing but I wanted something decent, which is what they are.

Edited 9 August, 20178 yr by TMB

26 minutes ago, TMB said:

I don't call £42.54 for one bearing cheap. And they were made in the Czech Republic not somewhere like China. I could have paid half that amount for a cheapo bearing but I wanted something decent, which is what they are.

 

Jeez, I didn't mean for you to feel personally insulted, it's just in my experience FAG are a cheap midrange option, I used to swear by SKF but they ain't what they used to be either.

I'm nowhere near to feeling insulted dude. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone's got one.

I also used to think that SKF were good or the benchmark brand, but kind of thought FAG were in the same "league" - oh bother!

 

It is a pity that ECP/GSF tend to sell brands that don't give much confidence, well when I looked it seemed to be that way.

 

Next someone will come along and say that nowadays they all come out of "The Ball Bearing Factory Number 15 China"?

5 hours ago, rum4mo said:

I also used to think that SKF were good or the benchmark brand, but kind of thought FAG were in the same "league" - oh bother!

 

It is a pity that ECP/GSF tend to sell brands that don't give much confidence, well when I looked it seemed to be that way.

 

Next someone will come along and say that nowadays they all come out of "The Ball Bearing Factory Number 15 China"?

 

They probably do, it's SO depressing, globalisation sucks, back when I started out in engineering RB or Rose Bearings were a gold quality standard and made in England to boot, SKF were all made in West Germany, Timken rollers were made in Ohio, USA.

Tip I found useful for rear brakes, is to fit shoes in situ, with top adjuster fitted, and tape top adjuster in place