We have a 2.5 year old Yeti 1.2 TSI DSG, owned from new, 21K miles and flawless until now.

 

It recently developed a shake, most notably between 50-70 MPH with the maximum at 62 MPH. When I say shake, it's not a vibration, but a front shake, as if it's from side to side which you feel through your feet and legs and is quite noticeable to the front passenger too. It is most noticeable on long sweeping bends, under power or not.

 

OK, the obvious taken care of: Had tracking and all four wheel balances checked. Checked again at a different tyre place. Today I had two new Avons fitted on the front, balanced of course and tracking again. It still shakes as described above.

 

Going downhill, knocking the DSG into N there is no change at all, which rules out DMF or Clutch?

 

With two weeks and 1,000 + miles holiday driving coming up, within that 50-70 MPH zone mainly in just 3 days time three questions please:

 

1. What might the problem be?

 

2. Should we attempt to drive 1,000 miles? If it was a wheel bearing, suspension part or other could it deteriorate very quickly or fail completely?

 

3. It is in warranty, but the chances of our over-worked dealer looking at it by Friday is around nil. Could we reasonably ask for a replacement Yeti/Octavia?

 

All help appreciated, thank you.

You have ruled out the obvious, but what about a failing rubber bush in a tie bar or similar?

I presume  its still under warranty so I would get it booked in asap

It's under warranty therefore take it into a dealer and get them to look at it.

My thoughts...

 

Explain the situation to your dealer.  Ask him if it would be safe for you to drive 1,000 miles with the car in this condition.

If he says yes, then go on holiday.

If he says no, then ask him for a courtesy car.

That would be my advice as well.

 

I'm sure he would make time to have a look then. It won't take that long to put it up on the ramp and check it over.

If new tyres balancing and tracking are good I'd suspect a cv joint or a suspension or steering component being bent loose or worn. I've seen a car that's had new tyres and tracking done several times before coming into my garage for its mot. Failed it on steering rack only held in by 1 loose bolt Lord knows how the tyre monkeys had got the tracking done .

Take it to the garage discribe what it's doing and hopefully they'll find what's causing it on the ramp or a short drive.

Thank you all for your help.

 

I'm at the dealers now and she'll be up on the ramps shortly.

 

I'll let you know the outcome. 

Everyhing checled and it turned out to be a buckled wheel. Mechanic showed me and said the amount of weights the Tyre Fitters had used to try and balance it was "a disgrace and frankly dangerous. It is obvious the wheel is damaged and beyond repair".

 

New wheel tomorrow and a phone call to Trading Standards about the tyre place. Idiots.

 

I'm so pleased the Skoda Dealer (Marshalls Croydon) did a great job today. We will order a new Karoq 4WD for January.

Glad it's sorted.  Enjoy your holiday.

Well I thought that could be the problem but rulled it out as you had them balanced.

Buckled wheel is very obvious when spinning on a the balancer.

Two separate tyre places either missed or chose to ignore it. One was Kwikfit (yes, I know, it was the wife's convenient choice) and then a local independent. Grrr 

Surprised you didn't feel the vibration in the steering wheel,any way glad it's sorted by skoda before your holiday......result

Tyre monkeys strike again 

2 hours ago, Woody37 said:

Two separate tyre places either missed or chose to ignore it. One was Kwikfit (yes, I know, it was the wife's convenient choice) and then a local independent. Grrr 

Glad that the cause was found. 

 

I'm afraid it's the difference between 'mechanics' and 'fitters'. 

One reason I always do my own maintenance.....I have zero trust in them. 

so you must have buckled the wheel whilst driving.must have had quite an impact with something suprised you didn't notice at the time!

This saga goes on.

 

Dealer fitted a new front wheel today, then noticed that one of the new Avon tyres was out of shape - you could see it looking side-on on the balancing machine - a hump on one side. With the severe hump myself I agreed they fit a new tyre too.

 

Took the car out for a spin and....... it's still the same, shudder and shakes at 55-70 MPH.

 

The car shakes and shudders, felt through the floor and seats, in both the front and back of the car, but NOT the steering wheel at all, nor the pedals really.

 

So, I now think it has to be one of the back wheels or tyres? We will find out tomorrow. I should add that my wife drives this car week to week, rarely out of town or over 45 MPH, so the problem could have been there for months. We think I last drove it on a longer faster journey back in May.

17 hours ago, Sad555 said:

so you must have buckled the wheel whilst driving.must have had quite an impact with something suprised you didn't notice at the time!

I'm with Sad555 on this.  With this amount of (apparent) significant damage to the wheels, tyres or other underside components,  it must have happened whilst the car was being driven.   I therefore find it hard to understand how the driver could not have been aware at the time it happened.

Long shot this...... But something came back to me from a job I dealt with a few years before I retired. 

Check your engine and gearbox mountings. I recall that we had a Renault Scenic in with severe vibration and very similar symptoms , it had already been to 2 other garages, and it turned out to be the main gearbox mounting  under the car that had almost completely loosened itself. 7 or 8 turns with a socket and problem solved. 

Not saying it's going to solve your issue..... But I'm sure you'd have known if you'd damaged your wheels so badly. I know I would. 

40 minutes ago, x19 said:

I'm with Sad555 on this.  With this amount of (apparent) significant damage to the wheels, tyres or other underside components,  it must have happened whilst the car was being driven.   I therefore find it hard to understand how the driver could not have been aware at the time it happened.

 

It's a fair point. To be honest the South London/North Surrey roads, particularly the cut-throughs increasingly used to get anywhere in reasonable time, are riddled with potholes, particularly on the kerb side, so to crash bone-jarringly over one is hardly noteworthy (for my wife anyway). Speed humps are taken carefully, but even they are breaking up in places, not to mention those ridiculous square ones that damage the inside of wheels and tyres when falling apart - got loads of those here.

 

Two new back tyres and a wheel inspection going on right now. I'm confident it will sort it.

 

Me, I would choose steel wheels every time if I could. Alloys are style over substance and a PITA.

Becoming bit of a mystery,2 x wheel balance by the 2 companies,skoda say buckled wheel but now it's not buckled but has a lumpy tyre but the problems are now thought to be at the rear even though from wheels had been excessively weighted,this is getting weirder and the differences between tyre fitters/mechanics/skoda technician appear to be blurring into one!

something inside one of the tyres? fitters wallet, wouldn't be the first time!!

2 minutes ago, Sad555 said:

Becoming bit of a mystery,2 x wheel balance by the 2 companies,skoda say buckled wheel but now it's not buckled but has a lumpy tyre but the problems are now thought to be at the rear even though from wheels had been excessively weighted,this is getting weirder and the differences between tyre fitters/mechanics/skoda technician appear to be blurring into one!

 

I think we've had 2 separate issues. The front wheel was damaged, with only an excessive amount of lead trying to compensate. That's done. The back is being looked at right now and it could well be that what damaged the front wheel damaged a back one as well? Back wheels were checked for balance and tracking previously, but not taken off or changed, so what lies underneath?

 

It's been a complete nightmare TBH.

Looking forward to some type of happy ending in all this.

31 minutes ago, Woody37 said:

 

 Back wheels were checked for balance and tracking previously, but not taken off or changed, so what lies underneath?

 

 

 

How on earth do you check a wheel for balance without taking it off the car?