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Hi everyone. My 'wonderful' Fabia has offered me another fascinating noise to try figure out over the last few days. 

 

I'm now getting a clonking/knocking noise, whilst pulling away, or reversing, from standstill, from the ns front corner. I was hoping it would be something to do with wishbone (as I have now bought one) that side, but I'm not so sure...... Many thanks 

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  • I know when I did my console bushes that I didn't quite tighten one of the wishbone bolts enough and it caused a clonk on pulling away and at low speeds over bumps. I tightened it and the clonk vanish

  • That's the whole thing, test yours by rocking the car in gear and see how much the engine jumps back and forth before spending munny, you may need to tighten something...

  • I use PSB bushes and they are great. Ive done over 4000 miles now on them and they are silent. Give a nice amount of feel to the steering without any vibration. And thats on 17inch 40 profile tyres.

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Sounds console bush-ish to me.

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Hi Wino. The car has had new springs (elbach) dampers (Bilstein b4s) uprated console bushes and new mintex discs and pads. I'm at a loss as to what it is. I have seen some posts on here suggesting a gearbox, or engine mount. The gearbox had been out two times in the last two months. Could this have weaken something? Can any of the gearbox mounts be sourced easily and replaced easily, whilst the gearbox is being swapped again? 

Could be the dogbone mount on the rear of the gearbox. Replace it with an oem spec one they are really easy to do shouldn't take more than 30 mins labour.

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Cheers, C. Does the dog bone mount need to come off when the gearbox goes back in? Where do you get one from? PD 100 1.9)

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Yes it will be removed when box is changed.

Call the dealers and try them for price.

Ive had ECP crap before and the mount fell apart whilst driving leaving only the exhaust to support the gearbox/engine from ripping itself out.

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5 hours ago, clarendon462 said:

Yes it will be removed when box is changed.

Call the dealers and try them for price.

Ive had ECP crap before and the mount fell apart whilst driving leaving only the exhaust to support the gearbox/engine from ripping itself out.

 

Would this be the (possible) right item? 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SKODA-FABIA-MK1-6Y-REAR-DOGBONE-ENGINE-MOUNT-6Q0199851AT-/321974272393?epid=1133705274&hash=item4af7298189:g:yd0AAOSwYlRZHy8N

That's the whole thing, test yours by rocking the car in gear and see how much the engine jumps back and forth before spending munny, you may need to tighten something...

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Thanks, Sep. Can the mount be bought with just what I might need on it, then? I did noticed that when I now start the car, it wobbles more than it used to at the front and the engine hopped around a lot when I started it after the egr clean..... 

I think they come like that. Mine had the black piece on when I bought it.

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Well, the car has now started clonking from both front legs, after my latest gearbox has been fitted (which is much better, with no diff 'grumble') when going over 'shallow' speed humps and uneven ground. The knocking when pulling away and reversing has gone. 

 

My mechanic has had it up on his ramp today, and the only thing we could find, is the lowered springs (Elbach) twisting/knocking in the B4s - he checked all of the ball joints and rear gearbox mount (which looked new, as it had a brand new part number sticker on it and was spotless......)

 

I've seen that you can buy some rubber sleeving that lessens the noise between damper and spring. Can anyone suggest a good make/seller of this sleeving, that would fit my springs? Thanks.

 

 

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Are you absolutely certain that the ARB bushes and droplinks are good?

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The droplinks are new. Not sure about the arb bushes..... 

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Sorry to double, double post! I've taken the car to my mechanic today to see if the plastic sleeving I bought (see above) will fit my springs - it won't! In the words of my mechanic 'That wouldn't go over a biro!"

 

So back to the drawing board on that front (In contact with the sellers - hoping to swap for some of these items:

http://www.tein.co.uk/product/silencer_rubber.html

 

My mechanic took my car for a spin, and has told me that some of the noise I'm getting is the springs 'chattering' but the louder noise is from my Darkside uprated (Cupra) console bushes! He thinks that they failed due to the gearbox being taken out several times. Could this happen? They're only four-ish months old! 

 

I'm getting a clunking when I pull away, when I brake and when I go over certain objects. Could this be the reason why my steering shudders when I brake at certain speeds? And would the bushes failing cause the handling to be wobbly and vague at speed? 
 

Another mechanic who works at the same garage has suggested to swap to the original OEM bushes (His Dad has the same car as me....) Would poly bushes make the ride even harder?

 

Many thanks in advance     

 

I use PSB bushes and they are great. Ive done over 4000 miles now on them and they are silent. Give a nice amount of feel to the steering without any vibration. And thats on 17inch 40 profile tyres.

OEM bushes are crap IMO

There is no way that those solid bushes will be knackered after 4 months, absolutely no way.

 

The car needs putting up in the air on a ramp and a big pry bar needs wiggling to find what's loose.

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I'm at a loss, then. I'll have to find another mechanic. He's a nightmare. Any decent ones in Cambridgeshire? 

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1 hour ago, GeneralDogsbody said:

I'm at a loss, then. I'll have to find another mechanic. He's a nightmare. Any decent ones in Cambridgeshire? 

 

These look likely to be decent:

 

http://germantechcars.co.uk/

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Thanks Sep. I think they're very expensive. My skoda has made me poor! 

It will continue to make you poor if you keep employing a useless mechanic to change unnecessary things

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Touche! 

I know when I did my console bushes that I didn't quite tighten one of the wishbone bolts enough and it caused a clonk on pulling away and at low speeds over bumps. I tightened it and the clonk vanished and has not returned. It's also possible that the thread in your console is stripped and the bolt can't be tightened adequately. When other people fix your car you never know what's going on with stuff like this.

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Thanks for the reply, TMB. From the noises you are describing, it does sound as if the clonking I'm getting could be console bush related. I also get the same noise when braking. Did your handling go all soft, as well? 

 

If I'm going for another set of bushes - should I go for OEM, Poly or Darkside "Cupra" bushes? (The Darkside version I have at the moment are good, but make the ride very hard)

 

  

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