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Pls help! Fabia 1.4 Tdi died while driving now won't start

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Was just started the car and driving in 1st gear, and the car engine just suddenly died, tried to start with no go, jump started no luck, with 2 turns on the ignition, lights on the dashboard goes on fine, tried to start, lights cut out but no start the engine, nothing, no chunks on the engine at all? on the second turn ignition, I can hear the flue pump working for a few seconds. Checked cam belt looks fine. Checked with VCDS, give me codes 18027, 00819, 01598, 01288. Cleaned the codes, tried to start, no luck, but after I checked with VCDS, No Code given??? Any ideas what it might be? Pls help! Thanks a lot!

one of those codes relates to a bad battery, another relates to power steering issue potentially caused by bad battery. The other is for fuel pressure sensor and the other for glowplugs. Id check your battery voltage first.

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Thanks for the advice, but already checked the battery voltage it's fine, plus jump start didn't help

Hmm ok maybe those are old codes then. also ignore what i said about the fuel pressure sensor, its the aircon sensor code so nothing to worry about.

Its very difficult to diagnose issues from 'it doesnt start and no new codes' as you can imagine.

Sounds like it could be a camshaft sensor issue, or a bad earth somewhere, have you definitely checked all the battery terminals and earth?

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Yes, have checked everything, no burned fuse or anything, will bad earth happen anywhere else other than battery?

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No starter motor action when key is turned to the cranking position usually means that the wire has broken off the solenoid connection at the starter motor.

Seems very coincidental that this happened at the same time as an engine cut-out though.

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Just checked the starter motor, 12v signal send from solenoid to the motor and motor did try to turn for half second and failed, so bad starter motor? But will starter motor failing cause the engine cut off?

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Check that solenoid cable carefully for insulation cracks near the connector. It's so common it's almost guaranteed to happen at some time in the life of a MK1 Fabia. Once the insulation cracks, atmospheric moisture gets in and corrodes the copper until it can't conduct well enough to work the solenoid properly. Eventually breaks clean off.

12 minutes ago, stevencage77 said:

Just checked the starter motor, 12v signal send from solenoid to the motor and motor did try to turn for half second and failed, so bad starter motor? But will starter motor failing cause the engine cut off?

 

No, this really does sound like an earth problem between the engine block and the battery, you need to check continuity.

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42 minutes ago, Wino said:

Check that solenoid cable carefully for insulation cracks near the connector. It's so common it's almost guaranteed to happen at some time in the life of a MK1 Fabia. Once the insulation cracks, atmospheric moisture gets in and corrodes the copper until it can't conduct well enough to work the solenoid properly. Eventually breaks clean off.

 

Just checked it, no cracks, clean inside, not corroded, any other ideas?

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What Sep said.

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Have checked all the cables with nothing wrong, but the voltage from the battery dropped to nearly 3v when I try to start the car. Could be starter motor burned cause it? I'm trying to remove the starter motor to test it but it seems locked really tight.

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Just hot wire tested the motor, it spins fine, so no bad burned motor

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Hotwired with the car's own battery?

34 minutes ago, stevencage77 said:

Have checked all the cables with nothing wrong, but the voltage from the battery dropped to nearly 3v when I try to start the car. Could be starter motor burned cause it? I'm trying to remove the starter motor to test it but it seems locked really tight.

 

3 VOLTS!

 

Your battery is toast if the starter spins ok with no load.

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11 minutes ago, Wino said:

Hotwired with the car's own battery?

Yes

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Does the battery light come on when ignition is turned on?

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6 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

3 VOLTS!

 

Your battery is toast if the starter spins ok with no load.

Tried jump start with another car still won't start, so don't think it's battery, it is like starter is jammed or something cause some kind of shortage makes the voltage drops

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1 minute ago, Wino said:

Does the battery light come on when ignition is turned on?

Yes it does 

2 minutes ago, stevencage77 said:

Tried jump start with another car still won't start, so don't think it's battery, it is like starter is jammed or something cause some kind of shortage makes the voltage drops

 

In that case the solenoid or the starter motor is fried, there's no other explanation.

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2 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

In that case the solenoid or the starter motor is fried, there's no other explanation.

I do try to bypass the solenoid by Hotwire the +12v directly to the starter motor, it's just spins with no load

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Maybe go back to that timing belt/mechanical problem idea, and try turning the engine over 'by hand', see if it's physically capable of turning over?

Sorry to scaremonger...

28 minutes ago, Wino said:

Maybe go back to that timing belt/mechanical problem idea, and try turning the engine over 'by hand', see if it's physically capable of turning over?

Sorry to scaremonger...

 

What he said, the 1.4 TDI has been known to disgrace itself mechanically, oil pump drive problems mainly although something may have seized.

 

Edit: Stick it in top gear and try rocking it gently back and forth to see if the engine turns over ok.

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1 hour ago, stevencage77 said:

I do try to bypass the solenoid by Hotwire the +12v directly to the starter motor, it's just spins with no load

And? The solenoid is used to engage the starter motor pinion with the ring gear, so of course the starter motor spins free when you bypass the solenoid.

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Dismount the starter motor, it works fine! It's the engine. Try to manually turn it, can only turn back and forward about 20-30 degrees and locked.

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