Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo

[Kiddmeister1]

Hello guys.. tempting to sell my 2007 skoda fabia vrs.. looking at the mk2 and swaying towards the monte carlo.. im looking for advice on the best engine choice..  i drive distance once a week.. the rest of the week is local/town driving.. i understand folk will have a difference of opinion but any advice will be greatly appreciated.. drawn towards the 1.6tdi but just not sure at all..

[Ootohere]

If you go for a 1.6 TDI CR you might want to be sure it has not had the VW Group Emission 'Fix', so no New Engine Management and plastic tat in the air intake.

 

If it has you might want one with a 'Roll back', and maybe a Remap. 

 

Others with them might be along to advise.

 

If a 1.2 TSI not an early one, chain tensioner issues possibly.

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What is your budget?

[Kiddmeister1]

2 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

If you go for a 1.6 TDI CR you might want to be sure it has not had the VW Group Emission 'Fix', so no New Engine Management and plastic tat in the air intake.

 

If it has you might want one with a 'Roll back', and maybe a Remap. 

 

Others with them might be along to advise.

 

If a 1.2 TSI not an early one, chain tensioner issues possibly.

?

What is your budget?

 

[Kiddmeister1]

Thanks for reply.. budget around 5-6k.. mostly seen 2012 models around this budget.. seen good reviews for the 1.2 tech 12v not the tsi.. speed isnt a must.. prefer the monte looks

[Ootohere]

Is a Monte Carlo 'Tech' not a 1.2 TSI  or 1.6TDI CR?

'Tech' being what they brought out to get sales moving as the RRP was a bit high and they were shifting few.

 

Be sure of what the engines / power of cars you see, there are some mis-advertised. 

There are Monte Carlo

1.2 12v 69ps

1.2 TSI 86ps

1.2 TSI 105ps

1.6tdi 75ps

1.6tdi 105ps

 

Those are 'Asking Prices' on Autotrader and elsewhere.

No need to pay those prices, they are a sellers Wish & Dream. 

Edited 31 March, 2018 by AwaoffSki

[Kiddmeister1]

9 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Is a Monte Carlo 'Tech' not a 1.2 TSI  or 1.6TDI CR?

'Tech' being what they brought out to get sales moving as the RRP was a bit high and they were shifting few.

 

Be sure of what the engines / power of cars you see, there are some mis-advertised. 

There are Monte Carlo

1.2 12v 69ps

1.2 TSI 86ps

1.2 TSI 105ps

1.6tdi 75ps

1.6tdi 105ps

 

Those are 'Asking Prices' on Autotrader and elsewhere.

No need to pay those prices, they are a sellers Wish & Dream. 

Thanks again for reply... yes it was the 1.2 12v... would your choice be the monte carlo in the mk2? Which engine would you go? I know theres no such thing as trouble free motoring but i like to find the best of the bunch.. hence the mk1 vrs engine i currently have lol

[Kiddmeister1]

Thanks again for reply... yes it was the 1.2 12v... would your choice be the monte carlo in the mk2? Which engine would you go? I know theres no such thing as trouble free motoring but i like to find the best of the bunch.. hence the mk1 vrs engine i currently have lol

[Ootohere]

Personally i would stick with the car you  have and know, and when there is one in your budget go for a Mk3 Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI.

Not a 1.4TDI 3 cylinder Mk3.

 

I bumped the 'tech' thread.

I still do not think you found a seller with a 1.2 12v 'Tech' just someone that does not know what it is,  just a Monte Carlo.

Which can be fine depending on the spec & optional extras that the car has.

Check with the description sellers give to Monte Carlo models.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/334147-monte-carlo-tech-edition-all-the-same 

http://autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/fabia/63407/skoda-fabia-monte-carlo-tech 

Edited 1 April, 2018 by AwaoffSki

[Kenrw8]

Ive posted on the site awaoffski bumped, according to Parkers.

The tech models only came in 1.2 TSI (103) or 1.6 diesel (103)

All others had either

1.2 (68) 12v

1.2 TSI (84 or 103)

1.6 diesel (73 or 103)

Edited 1 April, 2018 by Kenrw8

[Kiddmeister1]

6 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Personally i would stick with the car you  have and know, and when there is one in your budget go for a Mk3 Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI.

Not a 1.4TDI 3 cylinder Mk3.

 

I bumped the 'tech' thread.

I still do not think you found a seller with a 1.2 12v 'Tech' just someone that does not know what it is,  just a Monte Carlo.

Which can be fine depending on the spec & optional extras that the car has.

Check with the description sellers give to Monte Carlo models.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/334147-monte-carlo-tech-edition-all-the-same 

http://autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/fabia/63407/skoda-fabia-monte-carlo-tech 

Thanks again mate.. i  might just take that advice lol.. heres the ebay number for the 1.2 tech.. have a look and let me no

[Ootohere]

Ok, post the number.  or the Reg Number. 

[Kiddmeister1]

162963719473 ebay number

[Ootohere]

Just the 'Tech' bit wrong it seems, First Registered October 2012 before the 'Tech' models were on sale, 

unless a Skoda show car. 

Seems OK.

Rear Brake binding advisory at the MOT so you would want to know if brakes serviced since or they need doing.

That is a common fault though.

[Kenrw8]

DVLA info

 

YR62LXE

SKODA FABIA

ColourR ed

Fuel type Petrol

Date registered 9 October 2012

MOT valid until 1 October 2018

Get an MOT reminderwhen the vehicle's MOT is near its time for renewal.(Opens in a new Window) by email or text.

If you think the MOT expiry date or any of the vehicle details are wrong, contact DVSA.

Open All

MOT History

Mileage recorded at test, parts failed or had minor problems

Date tested2 October 2017

PASS

Mileage72,075 miles

MOT test number1663 1694 5924

Test locationunavailable until further notice

Expiry date1 October 2018

Advisory notice item(s)

• Both rear brakes binding slightly

 What are advisories?

Date tested2 October 2017

FAIL

Mileage72,075 miles

MOT test number6832 7568 0355

Test locationunavailable until further notice

Reason(s) for failure

• Nearside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
• Offside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)

Advisory notice item(s)

• Both rear brakes binding slightly

 What are failures and advisories?

Date tested6 October 2015

PASS

Mileage46,591 miles

MOT test number2260 8643 7253

Test locationunavailable until further notice

Expiry date8 October 2016

Advisory notice item(s)

• Vehicle internal headlamp adjuster altered to recheck alignment

 What are advisories?

Date tested6 October 2015

FAIL

Mileage46,591 miles

MOT test number5820 9319 2001

Test locationunavailable until further notice

Reason(s) for failure

• Offside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)

Advisory notice item(s)

• Vehicle internal headlamp adjuster altered to check realignment 

Vehicle details

• Vehicle make:SKODA
• Date of first registration:October 2012
• Year of manufacture:2012
• Cylinder capacity (cc):1198 cc
• CO₂Emissions:128 g/km
• Fuel type:PETROL
• Export marker:No
• Vehicle status:Tax not due
• Vehicle colour:RED
• Vehicle type approval:M1
• Wheelplan:2-AXLE-RIGID BODY
• Revenue weight:1550kg

[Kenrw8]

I would sayl it's a (1198cc 70hp) 1.2 v not a TSI (  1197cc 105hp) which a tech would be.

[Kiddmeister1]

Once again i appreciate all the advice guys... apart from keep the car i have.. would u recommend this 1.2 non turbo version... fancy a change but not go the funds for mk3

Last question guys..

[Kenrw8]

Two under 5k a diesel and a petrol on autotrader

 

Skoda Fabia 1.6 TDI CR Monte Carlo Tech 5dr
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803204761955?make=SKODA%26model=FABIA%26utm_source=Email_a_Friend%26utm_medium=Email%26utm_campaign=Email_a_friend_car

 

Skoda Fabia 1.2 TSI Monte Carlo 5dr
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803315112488?make=SKODA%26model=FABIA%26utm_source=Email_a_Friend%26utm_medium=Email%26utm_campaign=Email_a_friend_car

 

 

Edited 1 April, 2018 by Kenrw8

[Ootohere]

Go drive a 1.2 12v 70 ps and see.

 

Sorry to anyone selling a 1.6TDI CR.   But avoid buying one that has had the Fix like the plague.

But then you do get the remainder of the 24 Month Trust Building  Measure Guarantee. but then that is from VW. so how much do you trust that!

[Kiddmeister1]

Thanks again lads.. 

[AMD87]

2 hours ago, Kiddmeister1 said:

Once again i appreciate all the advice guys... apart from keep the car i have.. would u recommend this 1.2 non turbo version... fancy a change but not go the funds for mk3

Last question guys..

I wouldn’t you’d wish you’d got a turbo honestly. 

[Kiddmeister1]

Ok mate thanks.. just read the tsi is quite troublesome

[Kiddmeister1]

3 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Just the 'Tech' bit wrong it seems, First Registered October 2012 before the 'Tech' models were on sale, 

unless a Skoda show car. 

Seems OK.

Rear Brake binding advisory at the MOT so you would want to know if brakes serviced since or they need doing.

That is a common fault though.

Quick update ive contacted the ebay seller.. who swears blind its a 1.2 tech

[Kenrw8]

As a limited edition , 500 1.2tsi plus 500 1.6 diesel, would they have edition plaque stating edition number. The seller should be able to quote that wouldn't he or she

Edited 1 April, 2018 by Kenrw8

[Ootohere]

They never had plaques. 

& the produced more than they said they would.

But i have no idea about producing a Tech Edition before they were producing Tech editions.  So unless a model to show Dealers.

 

As to Monte Carlo's, they first registered i think 3 59ps models of them that were on the roads and sold used.

Must check 

http://howmanyleft.co.uk 

skoda fabia monte carlo

 

EDIT

Shows 2 Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo 16v...

Edited 1 April, 2018 by AwaoffSki

[globalste]

The Monte Carlo Tech, afaik, has Sat Nav RNS315 and Maxidot.  That’s the easiest way to know.  These are of course available as options and therefore the seller may claim it is a tech.  That’s what I found when I was looking at them anyway.

 

i have the 1.6CR, if it’s had the fix then walk away.  If it’s not and it’s low mileage then it needs to have had regular oil changes as they last about 6000miles before the oil is completely contaminated with diesel.  Cambelt and water pump is at 5yrs and costs £400 if it’s not been done.  EGR valves seem to last around 70k miles, covered under Skoda warranty if it goes, otherwise £800+

 

i own a 1.6 and it’s remapped and it’s a great little car, I have to drive careful to get over 60mpg though, it won’t squeeze out the same as the new VW and Audi 1.6 bluelines, I wish it was 6spd.  If the 1.2tsi 105 is anything like the new Mk3 then I wish I’d got that engine.

 

on all engine models, check for a pull to the left.  It’s mostly the late 2013 models that do it.  A combination of poor rear toe alignment, tyres, and front castor/camber, all can be fixed but it takes a while and ££ to sort it.

 

Residual value of diesels may be less than petrols, however dealerships want the oil burners off their forecourts so there are bargains to be had, I got £1500 off mine, a new set of bridge stones, 2yrs Skoda warranty and 2yrs servicing.  We split the cost of the new floor mats which is when I knew I reached his limit.