So our stop start has stopped working, checked nothing was switched on, deactivated and reactivated it, so husband went off to the dealer this morning.  Who told him to diagnose it himself as there are lots of things that can cause this.  Off he went on a drive and still not working, went into vehicle status, stop start where it says stop start not working due to windscreen heating on, which it wasn't so car is booked in for Friday.

 

We have the heated windscreen with elements on, and have used it a couple of times recently.  Be interested to hear if anyone else had the same problem, and if you have the heated windscreen maybe worth checking that yours is not doing the same in case there is an inherent fault.

I wish my stop/start would stop working. It's such a pain in the a**e.

It appears to be added technology just for the hell of it and serves no real purpose. 

Stop start wont work if the engine is not up to temperature and you have certain things on most notably aircon, heated windscreen and seats.

Edited 20 October, 20187 yr by xman

39 minutes ago, windsurfer said:

I wish my stop/start would stop working. It's such a pain in the a**e.

It appears to be added technology just for the hell of it and serves no real purpose. 

I think its just a box ticking exercise for EU environmental concerns. I switch mine off when I remember to. I don't believe any penguins will die because of this action.

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6 hours ago, xman said:

Stop start wont work if the engine is not up to temperature and you have certain things on most notably aircon, heated windscreen and seats.

 

 

Thanks xman we did know this but:-

 

The saga continues, taken the car on a long drive, eventually the stop start started working, however this was only short lived.  We have kept the vehicle status screen open so it tells you why the stop start won't work, got home and status says won't stop start as windscreen heating on, looked down no it wasn't as we hadn't put it on, then looked again and it had switched on all by itself.  Definitely a problem between with the link between the windscreen heating and the engine, whether the button is malfunctioning or it is a software issue we will know further when it goes in on Friday.

 

I will update so there is a record on here incase anyone else has this problem.

I am so pleased that my vehicle is 12 years old and that may even prove to be too new, OK I am learning a lot of new stuff but already its far less reliable than its 16 year old Octavia predecessor 100% due to electronics for things that whilst nice to have I would prefer to live without if they are less than reliable.

 

In fact the predecessor only got scrapped because of one of the very few  canbus modules, in 13 years of driving it I never even knew that it had any so they can be reliable. If I had gotten VCDS before and got up to speed with it I would still be driving the last vehicle but then you need a newer more complicated unreliable vehicle to learn whats what.

 

I feel truly sorry for any main dealers that have to sell and support thehe current generation of vehicles nearly as much as I do for the owners who did after all have a choice, the dealers have to sell what VAG produces and have to support it during the warranty, I would be telling potential customers not to buy one and if they did dont come back to me when it goes wrong, I have done that in the past which explains why I am not rich!

7 hours ago, RickW said:

I think its just a box ticking exercise for EU environmental concerns. I switch mine off when I remember to. I don't believe any penguins will die because of this action.

It lowers mpg and emissions on the urban cycle and hence the combined emissions resulting in possible lower rfl and company car tax. Apart from that I had it on my previous car for 6 years and loved it. But each to their own.

From my experience though it is very temperamental especially in the colder months and takes longer to start working after initial start up.

Edited 20 October, 20187 yr by gkr47

1 hour ago, womanofkent said:

 

Thanks xman we did know this but:-

 

The saga continues, taken the car on a long drive, eventually the stop start started working, however this was only short lived.  We have kept the vehicle status screen open so it tells you why the stop start won't work, got home and status says won't stop start as windscreen heating on, looked down no it wasn't as we hadn't put it on, then looked again and it had switched on all by itself.  Definitely a problem between with the link between the windscreen heating and the engine, whether the button is malfunctioning or it is a software issue we will know further when it goes in on Friday.

 

I will update so there is a record on here incase anyone else has this problem.

 

On the Octavia, the heated windscreen activates below a certain temperature, 4°C if memory serves.  When it does this, the button light does not turn on (which really irritates me, but meh).  Check in the Car menu (I forget which one) if automatic windscreen heating is on. If it is, turn it off and see if that solves the issue (which isn’t really an issue, it’s by design). 

15 minutes ago, SC03OTT said:

 

On the Octavia, the heated windscreen activates below a certain temperature, 4°C if memory serves.  When it does this, the button light does not turn on (which really irritates me, but meh).  Check in the Car menu (I forget which one) if automatic windscreen heating is on. If it is, turn it off and see if that solves the issue (which isn’t really an issue, it’s by design). 

Will look into that to know for the future but the last few days this has been happening we have been having temps of 20C here in Kent and today 16C.

 

Thanks everyone for your input, I love this community people trying to help each other  us newbies to Skoda don't always know these foibles and it's so hard to take in the whole manual when not all of it is in the car but half on the computer as a pdf  

10 hours ago, xman said:

Stop start wont work if the engine is not up to temperature and you have certain things on most notably aircon, heated windscreen and seats.

 

Can’t believe everything you read in the papers 

 

My car has clearly demonstrated that it doesn’t pay much attention to the “stated criteria” for Stop / Start to kick in.

 

There are many supposed criteria (listed eloquently elsewhere on this forum) that must apply after start up before Stop / Start will execute it’s magic to cheat the emissions game, but it just doesn’t always happen that way.

 

And clearly from the threads here, it is (a) confusing some users, (b) annoying others and (c) not always operating as designed and specified in the handbook.

 

But hey-ho, who really cares any more. The No Thank You drivers among us, including me, simply reach for the OFF button after startup.

^^^ Load of nonsense.

The stop/start criteria of the engine needing to be up to operating temperature applies to older Skoda models.

 

My 2018 Kodiaq will stop a cold engine.

2 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

The stop/start criteria of the engine needing to be up to operating temperature applies to older Skoda models.

 

My 2018 Kodiaq will stop a cold engine.

 

Well in that case its an even more stupid idea than I thought.

 

How can they justify that on grounds that the CAT is still in the warming phase and running rich. Extra CO2, extra CO, extra HC.

I guess the most recent emissions standards/testing favours stop-start working from the get go.

Doesn't seem like a particularly sound strategy from an engineering viewpoint, but that seems to be very much secondary these days.

 

 

On 20/10/2018 at 22:33, Offski said:

^^^ Load of nonsense.

**** off!

^^^^^^^Must be a Scottish thing !

UPDATE

 

Car went into Dealer today, diagnostic test run, nothing found.  Battery checked and all ok.  Told there are a number of reasons why the stop start won't work, but for me I don't think that is the issue, I believe if it wasn't for the stop start we wouldn't know that the front heated windscreen is turning itself on, on its own.  Told it could be because the weather has got colder, despite it doing it after a long run on a sunny day when it was 20C where we saw the light of the heated windscreen come on.

 

So if you are searching because you are having similar problems with your heated windscreen and find this post please add to it so we can see whether other people have an issue.

 

If you have a heated front windscreen and have noticed that your stop start is not working because it says the windscreen is on or that your heater turns itself on, please let me know too, then we can say it is a "Skoda" anomaly rather than our car with a glitch.