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Cruise control display on Maxidot

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Just activated this, and am very happy with the results (and at the same time a little stumped as to why they didn't sell them like this). The set speed is displayed on the Maxidot, and the turn signal stalk lets me increase/decrease the set speed 1 km/h at the time. In other words, it acts as if it were a Golf. This is a vast improvement over stock, at least to me!

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How did you activate this feature?

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Using an OBDeleven device, but VCDS works as well. It's there among the available adaptations for the instrument cluster control unit.

2 hours ago, enor said:

the turn signal stalk lets me increase/decrease the set speed 1 km/h at the time. 

If you keep it depressed it will increase in 5mph/5kph increments. 

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Oh! Haven't tried that yet... thanks for the tip!

 

The stalk always does this speed change, it has not been affected by your changes. All you have done is duplicate the icon saying it is engaged?

Or is it now showing the speed it is trying to achieve in km/hr?

 

I prefered the cruise control in my mark 1 Superb though. In that you could tap the rocker on the stalk a number of times. It remembered the number of taps, each one about 1km/hr amnd altered the speed to suit

8 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

I prefered the cruise control in my mark 1 Superb though. In that you could tap the rocker on the stalk a number of times. It remembered the number of taps, each one about 1km/hr amnd altered the speed to suit

That's how it operates on my MkII Octavia Scout; tap the button for +/- 1mph increments, or keep it depressed for +/-5mph increments. 

 

Is it a different procedure for the Yeti? 

I’ve always registered the Skoda as just one series behind the latest VW version in almost every sense.

It’d be interesting to list exactly what is unique to Skoda in the mechanical/instrumentation/controls.

That is how it operates on my old Yeti and my new Yeti so no change there...

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1 hour ago, kenfowler3966 said:

The stalk always does this speed change, it has not been affected by your changes. All you have done is duplicate the icon saying it is engaged?

Or is it now showing the speed it is trying to achieve in km/hr?

 

Yes. The figure in the bottom left corner is the stored speed in km/h.

 

The stalk, before the change, did do the speed change. But the single tap merely applied the throttle for as long as the tap lasted; there was no connection making one tap correspond to one km/h. So, 3 really fast taps could amount to just 1 km/h increase. Now I can do 10 fast taps to increase the speed by 10 km/h, and it remembers the number of taps and shows me in numbers which speed I'm trying to maintain.

 

 

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I prefered the cruise control in my mark 1 Superb though. In that you could tap the rocker on the stalk a number of times. It remembered the number of taps, each one about 1km/hr amnd altered the speed to suit

 

Yes. That is exactly how it works now, plus it gives out the "wanted speed" in digits.

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1 hour ago, Fin69 said:

That's how it operates on my MkII Octavia Scout; tap the button for +/- 1mph increments, or keep it depressed for +/-5mph increments. 

 

Is it a different procedure for the Yeti? 

 

The stock Yeti cruise control operates "blindly", with no readout of the stored (=wanted) speed.

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33 minutes ago, freedie said:

That is how it operates on my old Yeti and my new Yeti so no change there...

 

Strange! This is my 2nd Yeti - the first one was a -14 and this one is a -16. Neither had the cruise readout as standard. Are yours some special edition?

This is a tweak done using the vcds connection to the car and alteration to the manufactuters standard settings settings.

 

Looking at the picture above it removes the digital display of actual car speed in km/hr though, which is almost certainly why it is not implemented on the Yeti. It would only be legal in uk if there was a way to display km/hr as an alternative setting via the maxidot, as the car must be able to display its actual speed in km/hr if required. Then there would be an issue if you took your car abroad and used the cruise control display as you would not have a km/hr display. (The analogue dials on the Yeti do not also display the speed in km/hr like they do on some other vehicles)

21 hours ago, enor said:

 

Yes. The figure in the bottom left corner is the stored speed in km/h.

 

The stalk, before the change, did do the speed change. But the single tap merely applied the throttle for as long as the tap lasted; there was no connection making one tap correspond to one km/h. So, 3 really fast taps could amount to just 1 km/h increase. Now I can do 10 fast taps to increase the speed by 10 km/h, and it remembers the number of taps and shows me in numbers which speed I'm trying to maintain.

 

This is exactly how my 2012 Yeti worked.  One tap was 1 km/h increase.  Several taps was several km/h increase.  It’s just that there was no display showing me this.  All your update has done is add the display, not changed how the cruise control functions.

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3 hours ago, weasley said:

 

This is exactly how my 2012 Yeti worked.  One tap was 1 km/h increase.  Several taps was several km/h increase.  It’s just that there was no display showing me this.  All your update has done is add the display, not changed how the cruise control functions.

 

It's all very odd. Allow me to quote the 2012 Yeti owner's manual:

 

"Faster – You can increase the stored speed without depressing the accelerator, by pressing the rocker button B ⇒fig. 104 in the RES position. – The speed of the car will increase continuously if you hold the rocker button pressed in the RES position. Once the car has reached the desired speed, release the rocker button. The set speed is then stored in the memory.

 

Slower – You can decrease the stored speed by pressing the rocker button B in the SET- position. – Holding down the rocker button pressed in the SET position will cause the speed of the vehicle to reduce continuously. Once the car has reached the desired speed, release the rocker button. The set speed is then stored in the memory"

 

This is exactly how my '14 manual TSI122 worked - there was no way to "tap up one km/h at a time", I had to sit there holding the switch while waiting for the acceleration. And it drove me crazy because it felt hopelessly outdated and crude, like a 90s car. But somehow I learned to live with it during the almost 2 years I had that car, and I got used to it.

 

Now, in my current car - a '16 - I honestly can't swear it was the same way because I've just carried over my behavior from the other car since I got used to it. But I was jealous of the cruise control in my wife's '17 Polo; so now, having it put right (working just like the Polo at last) is such a tremendous improvement. Feels modern again!

My 2010 140 4x4 Elegance definitely had the "tap once to increase/decrease by a small increment" functionality, and so does my 2017 150 4x4 DSG SE*.  It may not work in full 1kph steps but it definitely does work that way.  From my experience, though, it's also the case that the system doesn't register two or more single clicks in quick succession: it needs a series of positive clicks on the button with a definite pause between them.  OK if you just need to shed a kph or two but otherwise it can be easier to use the press-and-hold functionality - although that is not very precise: it tends to over or under shoot, depending on whether you were wanting to speed up or slow down.

 

I think you may have misinterpreted the user manual (easily done, and not at all uncommon given the linguistic challenges of the Yeti user manual - although the later ones are a bit better).  The text you quote actually contains two separate bullet points, which seem to have become conflated in the transfer from the PDF in to your post.  The text is actually laid out thusly:

 

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Increasing the speed with the rocker button
› Press the rocker button B » Fig. 104 into the RES position.
› The speed will increase continuously, if the rocker button is pressed and held in the RES position. Release the rocker button once the desired speed is reached. The set speed is then stored in the memory.

 

The first bullet tells you what happens if you just press the RES button once (though it doesn't state that clearly, and the language is a bit odd).  In the second bullet the comma between "continuously" and "if" is intrusive, redundant and potentially confusing.  It would be better rendered as: If the rocker button is pressed and held in the RES position then the speed will increase continuously.

 

I can see how you could interpret that passage as meaning that press-and-hold is the only way to change the CC set speed, but I can state categorically that that is not how it worked/works on either of my Yetis.

 

I have driven rental Golfs on the continent which had the more informative CC display and I would be interested to know how you got your Yeti's Maxidot modified to operate the same way.  I have an ODBII adaptor but the app that I use with it (Carista) doesn't offer the CC mod (or didn't last time I looked), and doesn't offer the kind of in-depth recoding capability that VCDS does.  Could you point to an Android app or Windows programme that can do the required? 

 

* I used to play a "how good is your anticipation" game with myself on the quieter but not completely deserted sections of the M6 north of Lancaster: when closing in on a vehicle ahead, but having to wait because of traffic in the outer lanes, the idea was to reduce speed to match the vehicle in front by only using single taps on the CC button.

It's an adaption channel in the instrument cluster, it should be called "Cruise control display" or similar.

 

The only caveat is the ECU software also needs to support it and most Skoda ECU's don't, it seems to be more of an issue with TDi's rather than petrol engines.

13 minutes ago, langers2k said:

It's an adaption channel in the instrument cluster, it should be called "Cruise control display" or similar.

 

The only caveat is the ECU software also needs to support it and most Skoda ECU's don't, it seems to be more of an issue with TDi's rather than petrol engines.

 

So is the modification available via Carista?  Perhaps I don't see it because I have a diesel.

Never used carista so I'm not sure. If it can change adaption channels it should be able to do it though :-)

 

Even if the ECU doesn't support it, the adaption channel should be present in the cluster and nothing bad will happen when it's changed.

I have found that I need 2 short presses for the system the register the increase or decrease, seems to work that pressing the button to a speed chosen then an extra sharp press registers that in the memory, as when not done the speed only goes to the previously saved value the extra press increases that value.

Its difficult to explain simple in operation but it does work!!

4 hours ago, Frenchtone said:

I have found that I need 2 short presses for the system the register the increase or decrease

 

It's worth bearing in mind that the kmph reading on the Maxidot doesn't respond immediately following a single click: the car has to increase its speed before it'll register on the display, and that takes a few seconds - more than a few if you're on a steep hill.

 

Given my experience that the CC doesn't respond to multiple clicks in quick succession, I wonder whether what you're interpreting as two short presses being needed isn't actually one short press being registered, the second one not, but during the time you've been busy pressing the button again, the car's speed has actually increased in response to the first press.

 

4 hours ago, Frenchtone said:

seems to work that pressing the button to a speed chosen then an extra sharp press registers that in the memory, as when not done the speed only goes to the previously saved value the extra press increases that value.

 

If the CC was previously engaged, and then disengaged eg due to braking, then pressing RES once will resume the speed previously being maintained.  However, if the CC has never been engaged (by using the SET button) since either switching on the ignition, or activating CC using the switch at the top of the stalk, then pressing RES once will set the current speed as the speed the CC will try to maintain - it works the same as pressing SET in those circumstances.

 

(The one thing I did prefer about the CC on the Golfs I rented was being able to increase or decrease the set speed in 5kmph increments, rather than the rather hit-and-miss "press and hold until you're doing something approximating to the speed you want" functionality of the Yeti's CC.  Having a readout of the nominal 'selected' cruise speed is less useful IMO, given that it uses the same inaccurate speed measurement as the main speedo and the subsidiary speed display on the Maxidot.  Although I suppose it could be a handy reminder of what the car is going to try to do when you press RES after a period of driving with the CC disengaged eg if you've come off a motorway in to an urban area and forgotten to deactivate the CC using the switch on top of the stalk.)

I suppose I mean the second click resets the value stored as it resumes at the new level after a brake/clutch operation when re initiated!

enor: Looks like a very helpful mod but a couple of queries if I may

 

(1) Does the CC symbol & Speed only display when the CC is activated (i,e. does the mileage normally show unless the CC is switched on?)

 

(2) When the CC is switched on is the vehicle speed still displayed on the centre of the dash as per normal?

 

Thanks

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Yes, and yes.

I'm actually not sure what the benefit of this mod is. 

 

If I want to know what speed I've set the CC I just look at the Speedometer as that is the speed I'll be traveling at, + or - 1mph or 2 for slight fluctuations. 

 

I could understand the benefit if the Speedometer needle either 'lagged' or 'raced ahead' whilst you adjusted the CC set speed, but on my vehicle at least, the Speedometer needle practically moves in real time as I'm adjusting the CC , up or down, so I'm fully aware of when to release the adjusting button at the desired speed. 

 

 

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