@Bexhillian - Yeah, and in Formula Scalex E (and indeed FIA F1) all the parts a driver can touch getting out except buckles and steering parts are plastic composites, not metal!

So they not at risk of getting ran over, maybe???

16 hours ago, Bexhillian said:

as a 'not very impressed' occasional watcher of the electric grand prix racing series.... there must be a reason why, after a crash, the driver

remains in the car until he is signalled to by marshalls that he is safe to climb out

As mentioned above, nothing really to do with it being electrical; it's about not being hit. As soon as a driver leaves a car whilst on circuit, the race director has to call for a Full Course Yellow to slow the cars down. It is preferred to do that before the driver leaves, rather than the driver just getting out in a mood which is what Di Grassi did in the last FE race and subsequently got fined for! Although, if you search for the first FE race crash in Beijing in 2014, you can see the sort of damage a car can take and the battery was still absolutely fine.

 

All pure EV's are going to be above 100V, normally more than 300V. The efficiency of the system decreases as the current increases, so for the some power you want a high voltage. The FE batteries are in the region of 700V.

Edited 29 March, 20197 yr by GerrardUK

23 minutes ago, GerrardUK said:

it's about not being hit. As soon as a driver leaves a car whilst on circuit, the race director has to call for a Full Course Yellow to slow the cars down.

OK, so why is Formula Scalextric different to every other FIA and MSA championship in this respect?

I believe it will be a risk assessment type thing and the nature of FE tracks. Generally when they have an accident, there's nothing but barriers and they are stranded on the track. Sometimes a car is able to park down an escape road and there's no need to take any further action. In a series like F1, most of the tracks have ample run off area and so the risk is low enough that maybe only a yellow or double yellow is needed. The driver, and anyone else around, can see if the car is safe by the lights just in front of the cockpit. It will go red is there is an isolation issue and even if there is, it just means he has to jump off the car rather than step off (although there's no real risk even if he did). You see it sometimes in F1 if the (K)ERS failed unsafe.

Going back to the original post, I have bought a Fabia Monte Carlo Estate, nearly as much room

for payload but with what I am told is a "peppy engine" 1L 110ps 200Nm.

I shall be sad to see the Yeti go, but it has less than 7,500 miles on it mostly minimum of 100 mile

journeys so a good buy for someone.

 

 

 

On 27/03/2019 at 20:34, Stubod said:

It is all about tax revenue which is why even electric will never be cheap...the govt. will have to find an alternative way to replace the massive tax revenue they will lose from petrol/diesel.

 

hmm my car has zero VED and zero fuel costs. I think it IS pretty cheap

3 hours ago, domhnall said:

 

hmm my car has zero VED and zero fuel costs. I think it IS pretty cheap

..pretty cheap at the moment probably, but my point is that when everybody has an electric car then the govt would probably end up tracking everybody's mileage (the tech exists now and would be a simple extension of the speed limit monitoring software), and then charging "X" amount for every mile you did.

 

They will have to replace the lost fuel revenue using another method. ie just because "electric" cars seems to be cheap running costs "at the moment", when we all have one you will find you are still paying the same amount "per mile" as you do buying petrol / diesel...

On 31/03/2019 at 12:08, Stubod said:

..pretty cheap at the moment probably, but my point is that when everybody has an electric car then the govt would probably end up tracking everybody's mileage (the tech exists now and would be a simple extension of the speed limit monitoring software), and then charging "X" amount for every mile you did.

 

They will have to replace the lost fuel revenue using another method. ie just because "electric" cars seems to be cheap running costs "at the moment", when we all have one you will find you are still paying the same amount "per mile" as you do buying petrol / diesel...

 

oh yeah definitely, but that's maybe 5 years away. For now I am enjoying paying nothing for fuel and nothing for road tax

@Stubod  Seems fair enough having to pay to use roads, pay to park, get taxed on workplace parking even with an EV.

The zero and low road tax that was on the go with supposed low emission petrol and diesels was a nonsense but at least those that bought plenty fuel even if getting cheap VED were contributing.

As it is there are taxes coming in from the higher purchase price of new EV's even with a Grant.

The Plug in Hybrid grant was another con for some and rightly sorted out.