The Official Brexit Thread - The Transition Period.

[Ootohere]

News or false news in 2011, what about in 2019?

[Skoda_newby]

27 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

News or false news in 2011, what about in 2019?

 

In the times as well. 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/landlocked-countries-get-eu-fishing-money-2b2qk93ssrh

 

 

[shyVRS245]

2 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Remember the other week when you derided a tweet I posted because it had a single spelling mistake?
Yeah. It seems nobody's infallible. 

Effect, happy now.

[xman]

It now looks as if the Maybot has had a complete breakdown and is handing the keys over to the Corbyte AND the Sturgeon fish girl to sort things out.

 

God help us all....

[shyVRS245]

February UK car production 123,203 (2019) compared to 145,518 in Feb 2018. During the last 12 months domestic demand for UK built cars is down 8% however demand from Europe is down 18.9% which suggests recession is biting harder in the EU.

[moley]

42 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

 which suggests recession is biting harder in the EU.

Italy in recession, Germany very close to recession. One factory in France is bucking the trend with big orders and profits. They make the yellow hi vi's vests. 

[@Lee]

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Subsidies are justified to landlocked countries for their “aquaculture” and processing plants.

Aquaculture = fish farms.

[Ootohere]

 

 

 

 

http://instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/common-fisheries-policy

*remember that the Institute for Government is not a UK Government Institution, and who funds it.*

That does not mean Information might not be accurate, maybe just opinions are theirs. Just another Think Tank.

 

 

@Lee01

Lots of Germans and Austrians have their holidays and holiday homes around Lake Balaton.  You would like it.

Plenty of Phish!.  or totally taking the pish!.

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[@Lee]

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The EU is preparing to offer Theresa May a long Brexit delay with strict conditions attached, including the need to hold European Parliament elections and a possible “gentleman’s agreement” over Britain’s future conduct as a member state.

https://www.ft.com/content/3924a7ac-5559-11e9-a3db-1fe89bedc16e

[trundlenut]

51 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Aquaculture = fish farms.

Land locked countries are great for fish farming, less risk of disease, getting it and spreading it, less risk of accidental release, particularly for sea fish.  Less loss from predators etc.

[Ootohere]

What do you mean by great?   

 Lots of it is about fish for recreational fishing.  Kidology on fish for human consumption, but then there is ecology, and environmental reasons.

There is a lot of fresh water fish eaten though, especially at festive times.

 

Is there really less risk of disease from fresh water, or water not being moved with the tides?

There is less Sea Lice.

Certainly less seals as predators, and if in Lakes less accidental release.

 

There is Aquaculture in the UK as well with fish being grown in tanks, fish in freshwater rivers & landlocked Lochs and Lakes as well..

 

Edited 3 April, 2019 by Skoffski

[gadgetman]

3 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

February UK car production 123,203 (2019) compared to 145,518 in Feb 2018. During the last 12 months domestic demand for UK built cars is down 8% however demand from Europe is down 18.9% which suggests recession is biting harder in the EU.

The Brexit effect. 

 

Everyone is tightening their belts quite heavily until they know the outcome. 

 

Discretionary spending is being reined in

 

32 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

What do you mean by great?   

 Lots of it is about fish for recreational fishing.  Kidology on fish for human consumption,

You're aware how many of these fish farms are in warehouses these days? 

 

Very little is in waterways for the reasons highlighted earlier. 

[shyVRS245]

48 minutes ago, trundlenut said:

Land locked countries are great for fish farming, less risk of disease, getting it and spreading it, less risk of accidental release, particularly for sea fish.  Less loss from predators etc.

My Dad lost all of his expensive (£20,000) Koi Carp due to airborne disease deposited in his very deep, very expensive pond probably from bird droppings. Well known problem. His fish were imported from Japan and one was almost 30 inches long. Very sad experience for him. Ended up filling the pond in.

[Skoda_newby]

1 hour ago, trundlenut said:

Land locked countries are great for fish farming, less risk of disease, getting it and spreading it, less risk of accidental release, particularly for sea fish.  Less loss from predators etc.

 

And the fish swimming about over mountains of their own faeces....

[trundlenut]

1 minute ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

And the fish swimming about over mountains of their own faeces....

So you've not seen a fish farm then? 

[Ootohere]

@gadgetman yes i am aware. 

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& How many of these fish farms in Europe or the EU are in warehouses?   Do you have any figures.

 

Much interest in 'plenty of fish', and then fish aplenty.  

http://fishfarmingexpert.com/article/salmon-evolution-buy-site-for-europes-biggest-on-land-fish-farm

 

Canadian Companies are investing in Landlocked Continental European Countries, and finding out that the labour is not so cheap as they expected or counted on.

They have been Farming Fish in Salt Water / coastal areas for long enough, and are doing that around the world now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Skoda_newby]

2 minutes ago, trundlenut said:

So you've not seen a fish farm then? 

 

Saw them in open lakes, where Salmon were penned in a tight space. No, I can't imagine farms in warehouses. It sounds horrible.

[Skoda_newby]

What do you think is underneath these ring fences?

[@Lee]

The lake bed.

[trundlenut]

4 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Saw them in open lakes, where Salmon were penned in a tight space. No, I can't imagine farms in warehouses. It sounds horrible.

Well I have some bad news for you about chickens, cattle, sheep and pretty much anything else which is intensively farmed. 

[Skoda_newby]

1 minute ago, Lee01 said:

The lake bed.

 

...and a mountain of poo.

 

They also dye the fish for you. You only need to choose what colour of pink you'd like your salmon.

 

EU best practice!

[Skoda_newby]

2 minutes ago, trundlenut said:

Well I have some bad news for you about chickens, cattle, sheep and pretty much anything else which is intensively farmed. 

 

The sheep, cattle and pigs I see around here are in open fields.

[shyVRS245]

11 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Saw them in open lakes, where Salmon were penned in a tight space. No, I can't imagine farms in warehouses. It sounds horrible.

In mountain areas of Japan during the autumn ponds are drained and the Koi carp are transferred into large indoor containers because they would not survive in the frozen outdoor ponds. My Dad's pond was heated so that the water never froze during winter but the fish would move very little prefering to lie on the bottom away from the colder surface temperature.

[@Lee]

6 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

...and a mountain of poo.

 

They also dye the fish for you. You only need to choose what colour of pink you'd like your salmon.

 

EU best practice!

Maybe they should send the apprentice down with a bucket and a shovel then.

[Ootohere]

As much sharn on farms to be disposed of as there is talked here.

That is sh!t incase you did not know what sharn is.

 

Treated human waste and untreated animal waste is spread on the ground for production of food.

It is how it has always been, accept sometimes it was not and not treated human waste.

 

Snowie in Scotland and others  around the UK will put all kinds of waste onto land if you pay them.

 

Re Fish.

Lots of produce from the sea is caught to use on agricultural land to fertilise.

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 April, 2019 by Skoffski