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EV your choice £40k to £90k

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Bit of an overlap on price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 13/04/2019 at 18:06, vrskeith said:

Try this for a starting  example.

 

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/e-tron/106574/audi-e-tron-vs-tesla-model-x-suvs-face-off-in-electric-car-showdown

 

 

 

 

I think lease prices would be our more relevance ie Tesla £1k a month, even for lowish monthly mileage compared to i-pace, e-tron which can be £700/£800 per month.

 

Companies need to start thinking about offering a different model of monthly car allowance and "fuel" allowance, I get around £14k per year for car and fuel but would like to see "deals" offered by companies to encourage change to EV rather than keeping the status quo (and we make EVs and charging networks).     

£40-90k way outside my price range of £20-25k :(

46 minutes ago, Defenderben said:

£40-90k way outside my price range of £20-25k :(

 

90% of UK acquisition of cars is via lease rather than buy so I, as most, compare cars cost as to how much the monthly rental costs.

 

One might get a monthly car allowance or expect or pay out of salary but either way it is looking as whether one pays £200, £300, £400 per month and think that is reasonable. (£100 a month for a perfectly usable Dacia Sandero !)

 

Then factor in how many miles a year one will want for the car and see how that effects the monthly lease charge, can be surprising, and then the whack for an excess mileage.

 

Can be frightening to see how much it is going to cost per mile !!

 

Still very happy with my £260 per month for my Octy 1.4 TSI SEL DSG on its 20k miles per year lease and cannot get currently close to that for an EV but if my company would put my fuel card cost in to my car allowance then an nice EV could be on the cards.  That would be good for the planet and my conscious !  

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Where did you get that 90% figure for cars leased rather than bought.

Was that not a SMMT figure referring to vehicles for Business use, and not about 100% of UK Cars First Registered, and the figure is confused by Vehicles financed.

100 % of all vehicles are 'Bought' but then that can be Finance Arms of Manufacturers buying their product to then lease / Hire / lend, then Lease Companies buying vehicles to Lease to Customers. 

Eventually all cars are then Sold to the next owner, be that a Finance Company, Leasing Company or an individual with Cash Money that is all theirs.

7 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

@lol-lol

Where did you get that 90% figure for cars leased rather than bought.   Was that not a SMMT figure referring to vehicles for Business use, and not about 100% of UK Cars First Registered, and the figure is confused by Vehicles financed.  100 % of all vehicles are 'Bought' but then that can be Finance Arms of Manufacturers buying their product to then lease / Hire / lend, then Lease Companies buying vehicles to Lease to Customers.   Eventually all cars are then Sold to the next owner, be that a Finance Company, Leasing Company or an individual with Cash Money that is all theirs.

 

I had heard high 80% so I am guilty of a bit of rounding, here is one quote I found.....

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/insight-rise-pcp-car-deals-cause-concern  

 

"In the past six years, annual new car sales have increased by 39% – from 1.94 million in 2011 to 2.74m in 2016. Last year, 86% of cars were bought on finance, of which 82% were funded by PCPs. "

 

 

@lol-lol

That is not the same as 90%  UK car aquisition of cars is by Lease. As you posted.

  That is a figure about 'finance / money borrowed.  

Private & Business use and Aquisition is different, and then look at Motablity the biggest Group Buyer in the UK, they buy the cars with Cash money and lease to the thousands leasing.

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4 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

@lol-lol

That is not the same as 90%  UK car aquisition of cars is by Lease. As you posted.

  That is a figure about 'finance / money borrowed.  

Private & Business use and Aquisition is different, and then look at Motablity the biggest Group Buyer in the UK, they buy the cars with Cash money and lease to the thousands leasing.

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The figure is for people who walked in to the dealer and started of the "ownership" of the car via PCP etc.  Yes they often own the car after the PCP period.

It is all about avoiding the huge VAT hit at the beginning on the ownership ie let the lease company own it until the value falls to one third of the original price and then the loaner can buy it at the end of the 3 years when the car is nice and cheap.

As the article says it peaked in the mid 2010s and has been dropping back since then but then so has car buying massively too.

PCP is a pain with the fixed mileage during the term so one needs to have alternate vehicles to keep it to the 20K per year or whatever.

Usually I buy the car at the end and then trade it in a few weeks or month later as that seems to work best.

 

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Above & well beyond £90k

Super Electric 

 

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    North of £30k package is it over priced?

     

    Sportier option?

     

     

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    Seems like time for a £30,000 - £40,000 EV UK rrp thread and how much you can actually buy them for and get delivery in 2019.

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    8 hours ago, Skoffski said:

    Seems like time for a £30,000 - £40,000 EV UK rrp thread and how much you can actually buy them for and get delivery in 2019.

    It's all yours George👍

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    Ohh dear.   ****-up on the catering front.  

     

    There are chargers in and around Chichester.  Failed to even connect the 3kw Granny charger.

     

    E-tron only has just over 200 mile range in his test, bit poor, supposed to do almost 300 miles.    

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    Number of UK charging locations and connectors over past 12 months: Zap-Map, June 2019

    As shown in the table, the total number of locations which have a public charging point installed is 8685, the number of devices at those locations is 13886 and the total number of connectors within these devices is 23598. There have been 484 new devices added to the Zap-Map database over the last 30 days which equates to 869 new connectors.
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    CCS is the standard, it's foolish to buy a Chademo car now, unless you only plan to keep it for less than 2 years.

    For exciting drive, Tesla Model 3 SR+ will be a better buy.
    For banana boxes, e-Soul or e-Niro are much better.

     

    The Leaf is a car best avoided.

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