Error Brakes - Workshop (fabia MK2 VRS 2013)

[Polluxtroy69]

Hi

I have posted about 'Brake Error, Work shop' displaying on the maxidot, last year or so. I ended up charging the battery and it seemed to have solved the problem back then. 

Recently the same error displayed time and time again so I had the battery replaced. So new battery in and it displayed the same error on the maxidot again, but this time when I tried starting the car it fired up and was good to go. 

 

Has anyone experienced this and got a fix? Theres literally one solution that I have found on the internet and it points to the battery. I did try speaking to Skoda but they actually didn't care to know about the issue unless I booked it in with them. 

 

Any ideas are welcome. 

 

Cheers 

[UrbanPanzer]

Has the car actually been plugged in to see what the fault is ?

[Polluxtroy69]

I should have added. 8ts getting plugged in on Monday 

[Polluxtroy69]

Update on this. It's an odd one, now I've had it looked at in a bit of detail I'm hoping someone can shed some light. As the post says, its booked in with Skoda on the 17th October.

'Car has developed a fault 'brake error work shop' comes up in the maxidot along with 3 beeps. 
Car has been into an independent garage (one that I trust and I have always used). It was plugged in and the error found was that there was no communication with the ABS module. This was sent off for repair but came back with no fault found. The ECU has also been checked to see if this is working correctly and it is. The brakes have been blead but the fault is still there. The battery has also been replaced and is working as it should. We also thought that it could be due to the CANBUS causing an electrical fault. So we put the old swing unit back in the car in replacement of my android head unit. 
I cant drive the car as it sometimes cuts power when the fault comes up and because it's a brake fault the DSG will not let you take it out of park when the fault is on the dash. Other times it will go into limp mode. 

Anyone any advice? The car is 2013. Done 43,000 miles. Serviced by skoda every year. I need a car for work so it might be time to sell cheap for spares or repair. 

Car is booked in to now be seen by Skoda next week.'

 

🤞

 

[Tech1e]

I would assume (a dangerous word in diagnostics) that the module has all its battery and ignition supply voltages and a good earth?

[Polluxtroy69]

4 minutes ago, Tech1e said:

I would assume (a dangerous word in diagnostics) that the module has all its battery and ignition supply voltages and a good earth?

As far as I am aware yes. Everything was checked and rechecked. 

[Tech1e]

1 minute ago, Polluxtroy69 said:

As far as I am aware yes. Everything was checked and rechecked. 

 

Will have to wait for Skodas take on the fault then I guess.

[Polluxtroy69]

Car has been left at Skoda today. Drove it from my garage to Simpson's and nothing came up on the dash, car felt great to drive although I didn't boot it at all. 

They're looking at it on Thursday so I will report back then.

[Polluxtroy69]

On 11/10/2019 at 12:00, Tech1e said:

 

Will have to wait for Skodas take on the fault then I guess.

Ee Prom Malfunction. £2000 repair bill all in. 😭😭 

[Tech1e]

1 hour ago, Polluxtroy69 said:

Ee Prom Malfunction. £2000 repair bill all in. 😭😭 

for an ABS module?

[Polluxtroy69]

2 minutes ago, Tech1e said:

for an ABS module?

This is the fault that they sent me on their online. 

But yes for an ABS module (or pump as the technician said) this is the cost all in. I am going to write to skoda UK about the cost. 

[Tech1e]

I’d want a bit more of a break down in costs than that. It tells you nothing really. 
 

What diagnosis has been done to get to that point. How much does the pump cost and how much labour are you being charged at what hourly rate. 

[Polluxtroy69]

27 minutes ago, Tech1e said:

I’d want a bit more of a break down in costs than that. It tells you nothing really. 
 

What diagnosis has been done to get to that point. How much does the pump cost and how much labour are you being charged at what hourly rate. 

I've already emailed them (Simpson's Colne) for that information. You're not the only one that thinks its excessive.

I've spoken to 'live chat' on the skoda website but they were useless. I've just finished work so just need to find and email Skoda UK. See what their thoughts are on this. 

[UrbanPanzer]

There is PLENTY of Fabia Rs's being broken on ebay for example, get a second hand one for loads cheaper and ANY garage (if you cannot do it yourself) could fit it.............failing that drive to my house I'll do it for beer money and the Mrs would even make the tea!!

 

 

Edited 16 October, 2019 by UrbanPanzer

[UrbanPanzer]

Looking at new ABS modules, they are around £1800 + thats a tenth of the price of the whole car new !!!! .........................mind boggles !!

 

heres one .........dunno why the link is soooooooooooooooooooooo big

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKODA-FABIA-VRS-1-4-TSI-PETROL-ABS-PUMP-WITH-CONTROL-MODULE-6R0614517AG-10-14/332876658593?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4d80feb7a1:g:XkoAAOSwF~hb54PP&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWgPkHgYDW%2BQtZhSiueiE0YL%2Fubh3El9OzGmrfknyt2Hg5iYzoGHDHAONERyeLeoenwggAYHauJt%2BPLyr1vxsoaJ9SA85jEayBp8I0C2vF8ijjrYUrvKg7RRj4TdRIdP%2BmL0O1gSk%2Fg5hX7jqpJhU7L3SHrk9MRlb%2BcUlnrLt3lDsJao5K2uGXPSeeTGL%2BewW0cT4iuFK3KzcDcUfmX%2FhDblRUOGvbtkkpsn7pWrCswjJdrqhNFIXdPHG6DQJd3LN9axbDWJ2EOV%2BKTopGnsyoKi7BnfFB0I8SEOzgzDwFKtj91pEBaPs%2B2X6eXahfns6m34GQS9iS41Fi7vpgfRa14b%2BWvXTHt%2FSApwyvTW9azBaDpVDvTPkfKRc1wjM4ZPMoPOTZ8X1A3oTdxMfWIWyfbd9qIkLCiqBX0D%2Fi41jo3Qa7B5k8aIZSBc2RpOAjw95a%2Ff1uviVWL07zpg1IMn3V%2F8DG6H0B89zVUgC9HhRK0sl0%2BFLcnPnJ7SMvJvO2icyGxWjwtnks1VE1f2PD0PHHwk7tXEaccFh9QlnEGX8A4JX8pTCcZCqwcWNt5Je0RUJvMtpHReky3hs6KOhXja5BUPNvW9oUAwFO06NyS5RE2DBsUWkonJMW%2FjSYki9LXFaAmY2KIwpuEgmNZ5E0Xeo6kCh0tIv0NaVUbCBFpJ8ez3TlkPuucb7DFb6fiI7u2JrGB5TB2dhQ2AyDJo15RvxYj&checksum=3328766585938cc7f4d5f43941b3bd2ac8daf4661ea1&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWgPkHgYDW%2BQtZhSiueiE0YL%2Fubh3El9OzGmrfknyt2Hg5iYzoGHDHAONERyeLeoenwggAYHauJt%2BPLyr1vxsoaJ9SA85jEayBp8I0C2vF8ijjrYUrvKg7RRj4TdRIdP%2BmL0O1gSk%2Fg5hX7jqpJhU7L3SHrk9MRlb%2BcUlnrLt3lDsJao5K2uGXPSeeTGL%2BewW0cT4iuFK3KzcDcUfmX%2FhDblRUOGvbtkkpsn7pWrCswjJdrqhNFIXdPHG6DQJd3LN9axbDWJ2EOV%2BKTopGnsyoKi7BnfFB0I8SEOzgzDwFKtj91pEBaPs%2B2X6eXahfns6m34GQS9iS41Fi7vpgfRa14b%2BWvXTHt%2FSApwyvTW9azBaDpVDvTPkfKRc1wjM4ZPMoPOTZ8X1A3oTdxMfWIWyfbd9qIkLCiqBX0D%2Fi41jo3Qa7B5k8aIZSBc2RpOAjw95a%2Ff1uviVWL07zpg1IMn3V%2F8DG6H0B89zVUgC9HhRK0sl0%2BFLcnPnJ7SMvJvO2icyGxWjwtnks1VE1f2PD0PHHwk7tXEaccFh9QlnEGX8A4JX8pTCcZCqwcWNt5Je0RUJvMtpHReky3hs6KOhXja5BUPNvW9oUAwFO06NyS5RE2DBsUWkonJMW%2FjSYki9LXFaAmY2KIwpuEgmNZ5E0Xeo6kCh0tIv0NaVUbCBFpJ8ez3TlkPuucb7DFb6fiI7u2JrGB5TB2dhQ2AyDJo15RvxYj&checksum=3328766585938cc7f4d5f43941b3bd2ac8daf4661ea1

Edited 16 October, 2019 by UrbanPanzer

[rum4mo]

If the OP can survive for a short time without his car, there is even BBA Reman and others that can normally repair these items - I think.

[mrgf]

...I took a look at UrbanPanzar's looooooooooooong link... (Ooh-Err, missus).

 

It also showed a few others so it seems easy to find them. Breakers usually make sure they get their moneys worth so unless they just saw generic prices for these, at around £40 used, I would guesstimate a new one to be around £150! I even see used stuff more expensive then new at times.

 

So I dunno HOW Skoda sell them for 1800 beer tokens! They are almost certainly made by a company that provides them to other marques so find a match and check those quotes as new will always be favourite, otherwise for £40 or so, get used one and Bob's your mum's brother!

[mrgf]

ABS Pumps supplied and rebuilt | For all makes and models‎  controlunits.co.uk‎

ABS Pumps supplied and rebuilt | For all makes and models‎  www.ecutesting.com/ABS_Pumps‎

 

Couple of places I spotted might be able to help!

[Polluxtroy69]

3 hours ago, mrgf said:

ABS Pumps supplied and rebuilt | For all makes and models‎  controlunits.co.uk‎

ABS Pumps supplied and rebuilt | For all makes and models‎  www.ecutesting.com/ABS_Pumps‎

 

Couple of places I spotted might be able to help!

It module has already been to ecu testing they said it was fine but the fault still remains. 

 

I'm just getting it fixed by skoda, I dont want to but I want that piece of mind that it has been fixed by them. As I plan on getting rid of the car that same day. I've had the car for 4 years, I've loved every second of it but soon as it had a big bill I was going to sell. I cant / dont want the DSG, the engine or whatever else decides to die next, to be another big fat bill. 

 

I appreciate all the help you guys have given me over the years too 🍻🍻

 

Here's their breakdown anyway.. 

 

 

[Mickmartin]

3 hours ago, Polluxtroy69 said:

It module has already been to ecu testing they said it was fine but the fault still remains. 

 

I'm just getting it fixed by skoda, I dont want to but I want that piece of mind that it has been fixed by them. As I plan on getting rid of the car that same day. I've had the car for 4 years, I've loved every second of it but soon as it had a big bill I was going to sell. I cant / dont want the DSG, the engine or whatever else decides to die next, to be another big fat bill. 

 

I appreciate all the help you guys have given me over the years too 🍻🍻

 

Here's their breakdown anyway.. 

 

 

 

 

That should read, bend over David while we shaft you for 2 grand!

 

I did say on your Facebook page that if it was the ABS module it would be pricey however for the sake of a couple of hundred quid I'd buy a second hand one and try it out as if it works your quid's in when you sell the car, Decide to pay skoda for that and then sell the car your not going to make much coin back.

 

Each to their own, feel for you mate. Why now try Paul Warbutton on the Facebook page as he's breaking a fabia and seems like a pretty decent bloke.

Edited 16 October, 2019 by Mickmartin

[LGM]

41 minutes ago, Mickmartin said:

Why now try Paul Warbutton on the Facebook page as he's breaking a fabia and seems like a pretty decent bloke.

 

Stop it! You’re making me blush ☺️

 

I already PM’d him.

Edited 16 October, 2019 by LGM

[Mickmartin]

1 hour ago, LGM said:

 

Stop it! You’re making me blush ☺️

 

I already PM’d him.

Haha lucky I was bieng nice this time!

 

haha kidden