11 hours ago, SkodaKing said:

If I can't get this fixed within my used warranty, how worried should I be about paying to fix it myself? 

 

Should I even bother?

 

In my view the Park locking the gearbox is a safety feature, if your handbrake fails Park is the safety net, just like leaving a manual transmission in gear if parked on a hill. So should you bother..it’s up to you but I am putting mine firmly at Skoda door to sort out.

What does the MOT test cover? I don't know the details but it will fail if the handbrake doesn't work. I doubt the tester would be able to spot a broken P-lock but if he did it would most likely fail. 

On 05/10/2019 at 21:19, SkodaKing said:

If I can't get this fixed within my used warranty, how worried should I be about paying to fix it myself? 

 

Should I even bother?

 

It's a safety feature to prevent it rolling back on a hill. If you didn't fix it, you would never be happy parking it on a hill and you could never say you wouldn't ever park on a hill. My handbrake wouldn't hold on the hill I was parked on, hence me noticing it. However, I did play hell with them telling them the car rolled back and nearly killed me and that it was dangerous so they had an obligation to sort it. It's in on Friday so I'll see.

 

 

Edited 7 October, 20196 yr by NikTheGeek

I've recently had the exact same issue. Had the Error Workshop! Message come up and had the repair done under warranty. Noticed within a day or two that P no longer locked the drive wheels. It's booked back in this week for then to sort it out. 

7 hours ago, Bjddle87 said:

I've recently had the exact same issue. Had the Error Workshop! Message come up and had the repair done under warranty. Noticed within a day or two that P no longer locked the drive wheels. It's booked back in this week for then to sort it out. 

 

See, I'm smelling a rat here. I wonder if the faults are connected. I wonder if the "error leave in P" is caused by the pawl lock cable in the first place OR, a way to fix the error is to disconnect the cable and hope the customer doesn't notice. It can't be the latter, surely....

Seems a bit suspect that the exact same combination of faults have happened to both of us. Mine is going in on Wednesday so will see what they do to resolve it. 

13 hours ago, NikTheGeek said:

 

See, I'm smelling a rat here. I wonder if the faults are connected. I wonder if the "error leave in P" is caused by the pawl lock cable in the first place OR, a way to fix the error is to disconnect the cable and hope the customer doesn't notice. It can't be the latter, surely....

The way VAG conducts business it would not surprise me. 

They definitely changed my gear lever as my original had flaking chrome.

Update on my Issue:

 

Summary of my issue: The Dealership changed the DSG lever mech due to the Error P issue.  By chance I found that after this fix that when the gear was in P the car could still roll or be pushed with the handbrake off.  When the gear is in P (as we know) this should lock the gear box and prevent the car moving.

 

Car went in today and they have fixed my problem.  The Master Tech said the cable engaging the Paw which locks the gear box was too tight preventing the gear selector when in P fully engaging the Paw.  He demonstrated this prior to the fix by pushing the gear selector in P as far forward as you can which engaged the Paw, when you did it normally it didn’t engage.  This is something maybe those with the issue could try, see if the Paw engages.

 

i hope the helps 😀

I've logged it with Skoda Customer Services (who promise all issues like this are logged). It might be worth doing the same if you wanted as its a safety issue. The car nearly ran me over when I was unloading the boot and they need to issue a service bulletin to their techs about the importance of testing proper operation of the locking mechanism after doing any work on the gearbox.

It is a Safety Critical matter, but when you also let the DVSA in the UK know they will take the side of the Manufacturers and say there is a Parking Brake and use it.

They are stuffed obviously when Parking Brakes / E-Brakes also have issues and can not be trusted.

 

Just as well the UK has plenty bricks available.

 

Check for this in the Owners Manual.

 

Edited 8 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

Found this. So again, I hope its just a cable issue on mine

 

2 minutes ago, NikTheGeek said:

Found this. So again, I hope its just a cable issue on mine

 

Try putting it in Park and then pushing the lever forward further (not forcing it) see if it engages the Paw. If so sure sign the cable needs adjusting 

I tried pushing forward and it did nothing. My guess from that diagram would be if the cable is overtightened then the slide will be lifted away from the locking pawl meaning it never comes into contact with the parking lock gears. 

7 minutes ago, Mattieuk said:

Try putting it in Park and then pushing the lever forward further (not forcing it) see if it engages the Paw. If so sure sign the cable needs adjusting 

It's already been in and they tried adjusting the cable and had no joy, so they think the cable has snapped (fingers crossed) and it's in on Friday. I hope it's nothing inside the gearbox as that would be a gearbox out job whereas the cable could be replaced I gather. Thanks anyway!

Had mine back today. They examined it and their words were 'the clip that holds the cable to engage the pawl had become disconnected'. Now they didn't say, but I feel it's likely it was disconnected and either not put back or not put back correctly by them when they did the microswitch work previously. All working correctly now so fingers crossed it all sorted 🤞

Broken cable. They had ordered the cable in ready, but it needs something else that isn't kept. £330 and it'll have to stay with them over the weekend (they did offer to drop it off and collect it again on monday morning to be fair). And it's a warranty job, so it's not costing.

 

Which brings me to remembering this post:

 

I assume that's when it broke!!

I had the same error msg with the DSG selector a year ago and they changed the whole selector unit . Sure enough with the new selector the wheels weren't locked when in P position. After some fiddling I did find I could get the wheels locked if I forced the selector all the way (forward?).  They had the car back in and fixed it within a couple of days and its been fine since.  It was just out of adjustment but its a shame they don't road test for this specific issue.

Well I have an update

 

Cable changed, no difference - although they did confirm the cable had snapped.

 

Gear selector changed (for the 2nd time in 2 months) and it's now fixed. Odd that a 2 month old gear selector and new cable still didn't work. I'm not convinced by the story or that they know what they are talking about, but at least it hasn't cost me.

6 hours ago, NikTheGeek said:

Well I have an update

 

Cable changed, no difference - although they did confirm the cable had snapped.

 

Gear selector changed (for the 2nd time in 2 months) and it's now fixed. Odd that a 2 month old gear selector and new cable still didn't work. I'm not convinced by the story or that they know what they are talking about, but at least it hasn't cost me.

 

Just pray it doesn't start throwing up the Error message. My new replacement did. :( 

Had mine fixed today, turned out the garage hadn't connected a cable following the error message and gear selector unit change. 

 

It only took 10 mins to fix.

 

The gear selector does feel different now, moving from park to drive it is a bit stiff, hopefully it will loosen off. Nice to know it now works as it should, I hadn't realised how much i missed having it working properly.

 

 

55 minutes ago, SkodaKing said:

 

Hadn't connected the cable!. Total jerks.

1 hour ago, SkodaKing said:

Had mine fixed today, turned out the garage hadn't connected a cable following the error message and gear selector unit change. 

 

It only took 10 mins to fix.

 

The gear selector does feel different now, moving from park to drive it is a bit stiff, hopefully it will loosen off. Nice to know it now works as it should, I hadn't realised how much i missed having it working properly.

 

 

 

I totally agree, mine is much stiffer too now. They really should release some bulletin as it's a safety issue. My car could have killed me when it started rolling back.

So, now I have a working park lock and can see and feel how it is supposed to work, what happens if you park on a steep hill and it rests on the pin, how do you release it as it's a simple cable and could clearly snap as mine already has once.

14 hours ago, NikTheGeek said:

So, now I have a working park lock and can see and feel how it is supposed to work, what happens if you park on a steep hill and it rests on the pin, how do you release it as it's a simple cable and could clearly snap as mine already has once.

The cable operates a mechanism that controls the parking pawl, there is very little actual force on the bowden cable. Just follow the correct procedure.  Apply footbrake, and keep it pressed, apply handbrake, then put shift lever into park.