Well when they can do a safe 350+ miles on a single charge (which is what Ican get out of a tank of petrol on my RS), have loads of ultra fast charging points across the country that can give a very significant charge in a very short time say 5 mins (broadly similar to filling up with fuel) and great performance, then I'll consider it. 

 

Until such time I'll pass. 

Basically if I was on £35 plus an hour and in regular employment and doing high miles for business I would in a leased Tesla and using Tesla chargers and other Rapid pay as you goes and not trucking around in a Skoda.  But then it's about what suits people really.

18 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

Basically if I was on £35 plus an hour and in regular employment and doing high miles for business I would in a leased Tesla and using Tesla chargers and other Rapid pay as you goes and not trucking around in a Skoda.  But then it's about what suits people really.

 

What's with the £35 an hour - are you suggesting that people charging their vehicles whilst out on business are working in the time they are charging?  For many that would be an impossibility (unless they are playing the system).

I saw the TdF Enyaq leading the Tour on yesterday's stage. Looked really good, not other worldly or odd - just another decent car doing a job. Except no diesel fumes out the back for the racers to breathe.

 

 

Edited 3 September, 20205 yr by Luckypants

@skomaz I said what I would be doing and not what others should. So a big difference. I can earn £100 or a £1,000 in an hour but not often enough to be leasing a Tesla or even bothering to drive one.  But if I was paying higher taxes then I would be certainly looking to benefit from what I can get by using an EV for business use.

I’m confused as to how we got to borderline uploading PDFs of our wage slips in here. 

I still don't get the point @e-Roottoot was making but it wasn't really explained clearly and maybe that's just me being slow on the uptake...   ??

 

I 'think' he was saying if your working and out on the road then charge your EV for an hour whilst taking a break for lunch and claim wages for the hour as well?

 

Unfortunately that's not always how the world works (or at least isn't how my world works as I very rarely get a lunch break and only get paid for a set number of hours per day, regardless of how many I do to get the job done as anything over and above the standard hours is classed as 'part of the job' at my level and cant be claimed as Overtime etc...).

29 minutes ago, SC03OTT said:

I’m confused as to how we got to borderline uploading PDFs of our wage slips in here. 

Agreed. This thread is supposed to be about the Skoda Enyaq, not the pros and cons of running an EV. There is at least half a dozen of those already!

Simples really if one the choices of Skoda Enyaq suits your needs then great as with any EV.  If running them for private or personal use takes an hour or so of your time or of the working day while traveling for work then the saving is made on the fuel not required to be bought and the taxes you can save.    Those that can not use an EV for personal or work use do not have to even bother about looking at them just as they did not buy A Citigo if they needed an Octavia, Superb or a Kofiaq.  If an employee and you have a company or fleet EV that requires charging then that is not meaning you need to take your break in some park and ride with no facilities or at some place where there are only inflated prices.  Once you start using EV chargers you will meet all sorts that more than happy to tell you how they are benefitting financially.  It is very much about the economics as much as anyone bothering about the environment. @skomaz just to be clear, those that are able to work online or on the phone can work from the vehicle or KFC or anyplace else while charging.  Obviously taking a break as in your own time is taking a break.  It is something reps and travellers have done for decades and in this modern times they still do as they tramp around the UK in comfortable vehicles.

 

 

Edited 3 September, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

The "Q" in Audi is from "quer" German for across as in "cross country"

12 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

Basically if I was on £35 plus an hour and in regular employment and doing high miles for business I would in a leased Tesla and using Tesla chargers and other Rapid pay as you goes and not trucking around in a Skoda.  But then it's about what suits people really.

 

 

have a read at my newly posted review of 6 months in a Tesla - might chsange your tune

 

13 hours ago, TheWanderer said:

Well when they can do a safe 350+ miles on a single charge (which is what Ican get out of a tank of petrol on my RS), have loads of ultra fast charging points across the country that can give a very significant charge in a very short time say 5 mins (broadly similar to filling up with fuel) and great performance, then I'll consider it. 

 

Until such time I'll pass. 

 

 

The range of the car is not the limiting factor, it is your bladder range. The idea that you can safely drive non stop for 350 miles without endangering yourself and others is laughable

On 02/09/2020 at 10:03, CJJE said:

That's why I'm buying petrol while I'm still allowed to! 

 

Given twenty years to get batteries sorted out (if the rare minerals they consumed haven't rocketed in price by then, and they'll be replaced by hydrogen cars. But I doubt I'll still be driving by then! And I can't afford to keep a fleet of cars like you to select for today's journey

 

you do realise that refining petrol uses far more of those minerals like cobalt than the EVs do? refining and pumping all that petrol also uses vast quantities of electricity

 

 

4 minutes ago, domhnall said:

 

 

The range of the car is not the limiting factor, it is your bladder range. The idea that you can safely drive non stop for 350 miles without endangering yourself and others is laughable

I must be lucky don't usually use the toilet on the Dreamliner flying the 8 hours and 4,250 miles to Kenya. Will be doing the 279 miles to Newquay in one go in 2 weeks time in my comfortable 160mph Superb without needing to stop for fuel. Will stop at our Hotel in Weston Super Mare on the return journey after 149 miles. Then on day 4 will complete the final 130 miles home without having bought any fuel since leaving Leicestershire. Enjoy the Tesla they are becoming quite common now on the M1. Saw 2 S Models side by side the other day.

11 minutes ago, domhnall said:

 

you do realise that refining petrol uses far more of those minerals like cobalt than the EVs do? refining and pumping all that petrol also uses vast quantities of electricity

 

Where is cobalt and lithium used in refining of petrol in greater quantities than battery & EV production?

If this ultimately becomes the Kodiaq and is all that we can get, the ground clearance looks less so no good in AWD guise for ski fields, dirt, steep stuff etc? This looks to be less an SUV and more a pretty looking people mover to me. The 99mph top speed seems slightly non-impressive for the VRS model too?

8 hours ago, domhnall said:

 

 

The range of the car is not the limiting factor, it is your bladder range. The idea that you can safely drive non stop for 350 miles without endangering yourself and others is laughable

 

I can drive at least 2½-2¾ hrs non stop, if I have a stop it's just 5 or 6 mins (less if it's in lay-by and in bushes) for a pee, then away again. No longer. Time is money unless I'm on leave. 

 

I refuse to pay extortionate prices at motorway/petrol stations for food and drink. I might get an hour at the final destination, I literally sip water en route and again it maybe a 5 mins stop for a pee on the way back. 

 

I'm used to driving distances and sustained levels of concentration as I'm a train driver, I don't have the attention span of a goldfish office "worker".

 

^ Don't buy an EV then. 

4 minutes ago, Wino said:

^ Don't buy an EV then. 

 

I won't be! Nor will I be buying a hybrid RS Octavia either with its pathetic 32 miles on electric. Utterly pointless. 

For you, yes, but  then why spend time and effort posting on EV threads? 

9 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

I must be lucky don't usually use the toilet on the Dreamliner flying the 8 hours and 4,250 miles to Kenya. Will be doing the 279 miles to Newquay in one go in 2 weeks time in my comfortable 160mph Superb without needing to stop for fuel. Will stop at our Hotel in Weston Super Mare on the return journey after 149 miles. Then on day 4 will complete the final 130 miles home without having bought any fuel since leaving Leicestershire. Enjoy the Tesla they are becoming quite common now on the M1. Saw 2 S Models side by side the other day.

 

I go with the time limits the army impose on us, after 2 hours you must take a break.  Tesla is not great - see my thread now posted on that

41 minutes ago, TheWanderer said:

 

I can drive at least 2½-2¾ hrs non stop, if I have a stop it's just 5 or 6 mins (less if it's in lay-by and in bushes) for a pee, then away again. No longer. Time is money unless I'm on leave. 

 

I refuse to pay extortionate prices at motorway/petrol stations for food and drink. I might get an hour at the final destination, I literally sip water en route and again it maybe a 5 mins stop for a pee on the way back. 

 

I'm used to driving distances and sustained levels of concentration as I'm a train driver, I don't have the attention span of a goldfish office "worker".

 

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If I were going to adopt your tone suggesting thsat people who work in offices aren't really "working", I'd suggest that sitting on your bum "driving" a train isn't hard work either, you don't even steer. But I wouldn't stoop that low.

29 minutes ago, TheWanderer said:

 

I won't be! Nor will I be buying a hybrid RS Octavia either with its pathetic 32 miles on electric. Utterly pointless. 

 

I am no fan of PHEVs but 32 miles will cover the daily drive of a huge number of the UK driving population. If it helps clean up the air and save lives then I can accept it. 

20 minutes ago, domhnall said:

 

I am no fan of PHEVs but 32 miles will cover the daily drive of a huge number of the UK driving population. If it helps clean up the air and save lives then I can accept it. 

 

You mean townies, in particular the ever whinging Londoners, the same inept individuals who buy 4x4s/SUVs and live in a city. Yeah righto. 

 

Faux safety lobbyists, faux environmentalists. Faux/Pseudo friends. 

 

Edited 4 September, 20205 yr by TheWanderer

Just now, TheWanderer said:

 

You mean townies, in particular the ever whinging Londoners, the same inept individuals who buy 4x4s/SUVs and live in a city. Yeah righto. 

 

Faux safety lobbyists, faux environmentalists. Pseudo friends. 

 

 

 

aha the earth is flat etc etc etc OK. The reality is the vast majority of people don't drive very far. You are clearly a very angy man about that but it doesn't change the reality. People really do die from air pollution though whether you care to admit it or not.  If you like we'll compare our cars. Let's park our cars in garages, sit in them and start them up. Leave it a few hours and then we can meet up to compare notes. See how clean your lungs are compared with mine.    [Faux safety adviser notice: please don't try this at home viewers]