Hi, my garage recommended new discs and pads "before next long trip" which sounded a bit serious. From the photos (yeah the wheels are filthy) does this sound right?

 

Looking at https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/232066-changing-discs-and-pads/ I'm thinking of investing in a few more tools and doing it myself as parts seem about £20-30 each, rather than £200+ at the garage. I also need to do a couple of other things so might be worth the investment.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

Thanks 🙂

That doesn't look too bad to me but the photos do not show the onboard pads. The best thing is to measure the pad material left and the thickness of the discs and compare the figures with the Skoda stated minimum figures. Although there is a rusty lip around the edge of the disc, which most have after they have been fitted for a while, the contact area appears good with no signs of radial cracks or deep gouging.

You want to look at the other side of the discs, sometimes the face is ready to come away.

Ah I see, thanks. Guess the garage could see something I couldn't when they took the wheel off.

As e-Roottoot has said above, the other side of the disc could be the issue. You could use an inspection mirror and a torch, or it’s hard to beat taking the wheel off and sticking your head in. If the pad material is the same on the inside pad as the outer in your pic, And the rear of the disc is the same as the face in your pic, I’d leave it until the pads wear down and replace both at that point. Front pads for mine were £140 a set and rear pads were something like £70 from memory. I have found over the years that cheap pads squeal and drive people nuts and then they come back complaining and disc wear quickly and are more expensive in the long run. My last set of front pads on a merc jeep were still going strong with 50k on them. 

Thanks, will try and check the other side.
Out of interest, front pads on https://www.eurocarparts.com/ are coming up £20-50, albeit with a sale. Is this an ok place to buy from? Quite a difference to £140 a set, though I'm not bourgeois enough for wear indicators 😩

OEM discs and pads are shocking. Pay a littke more abd get some decebt ones 

24 minutes ago, Tim1631 said:

OEM discs and pads are shocking. Pay a littke more abd get some decebt ones 

 

Thanks. Does that mean Bosch, Eicher, Pagid etc are bad and ATE are good? Sorry, I don't know what the original products might be.

1 hour ago, Trevor33 said:

 

Thanks. Does that mean Bosch, Eicher, Pagid etc are bad and ATE are good? Sorry, I don't know what the original products might be.

Most of those should be fine. Make sure the caliper slides are well cleaned and free, and that the pad seats are clean as well.  Wire brush the seats where the pads sit as this helps avoid noise from a pad not sitting flat against the disc. 
alternatively, if you want to check EBC prices, you can look up EBC brake shop U.K. and check their basic pad and disc prices. I always use a ceramic race pad in mine and their better Grooved BSD discs as it’s a fantastic combination. But that’s me!! 

they are listing Standard OEM replacement pads for £65 front and £25 rear and OEM discs from £80 for mine, so you could stick your car details in and check anyway as an alternative if you wish. 
Your local motor factors will also be able to supply you with a range of different makes and guide you on their level of quality as well. 
 

New discs and pads for all 4 corners and brake fluid cost me £140 at my local Motor Factors for MK2 Fabia vRS.   That is for Ferodo and they perform just as they should. Like discs and pads should.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/442915-pagid-vs-brembo-vs-bosch-brake-discs-and-pads

 

Edited 1 September, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

On ‎31‎/‎08‎/‎2020 at 21:01, Trevor33 said:

 

Thanks. Does that mean Bosch, Eicher, Pagid etc are bad and ATE are good? Sorry, I don't know what the original products might be.

I'm a fan of pagid, I have discs and pads all round and they stop the car well, not much dust and no noise.

 

depending on when it was last changed I would consider replacing your brake fluid.

1 hour ago, Gissin said:

depending on when it was last changed I would consider replacing your brake fluid.

 

It's probably been seven years since that change, so probably not a bad idea. Is this on par with discs and pads change in terms of difficulty?

yeah I would 100% change it then I try to do mine every 2 -3 years

 

yeah there's aezibleed kit I used,  it's fairly straight forward make sure you don't get any air in the ABS pump or you'll need vag com etc to correct.

 

also don't get any on paintwork

Bit late to the discussion, but that pad Looks fine, so it depends on what the pad behind the disk looks like.

The disk looks fine, although the lip looks reasonably large. Is this the first set of pads on these discs? If so I would guess it just looks worse from sitting around, but would do the discs when you do the pads.

 

I recently changed mine after approx 100k and there was far less material in the pad than that.

The disc lip less so, but I had wire brushed the edge when I changed wheels.

 

If you have a council run MOT centre or a friendly MOT tester you could always ask for a second opinion. That or get each wheel off and measure what’s left to check against tolerances and limits.

 

 

 

 

On 10/09/2020 at 08:31, cheezemonkhai said:

Bit late to the discussion, but that pad Looks fine, so it depends on what the pad behind the disk looks like.

The disk looks fine, although the lip looks reasonably large. Is this the first set of pads on these discs? If so I would guess it just looks worse from sitting around, but would do the discs when you do the pads.

 

I recently changed mine after approx 100k and there was far less material in the pad than that.

The disc lip less so, but I had wire brushed the edge when I changed wheels.

 

If you have a council run MOT centre or a friendly MOT tester you could always ask for a second opinion. That or get each wheel off and measure what’s left to check against tolerances and limits.

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse the delay, have been away.

 

I'm 99% they are all original pads and discs (I'm the second owner] and the car has never been inside so yeah, it sits around and has only done 47,000 miles. It's weird because my MOT (only) centre never picked up on this, maybe they don't because it was working on 'that day'?

 

I couldn't manage to see anything with a mirror on the other side of each wheel, so i'll have to invest in some axle stands to inspect properly.

Go ask your MOT centre for a second opinion. They have nothing to gain from lying.

 

Like I said I got an advisory that they were a pass but I needed to monitor them, so I would have expected you to if they were that close. And mine were so close I had them booked in to be done anyway.

 

If I had to guess I would say the “garage” is trying to generate some extra business. I will add however at that mileage they could realistically be worn if lots of stop start driving had been done.

Should the MOT centre says they’re fine, then you know not to trust the garage.

 

I’d take a manual wire brush to the edge of the disk just to remove any loose rust, which will make it easier to monitor in future.

 

 

Edited 16 September, 20205 yr by cheezemonkhai

It looks like the pads are ok (fronts in the pics guessing?) but the discs have quite a lip so guess they could do with a change. At 47k miles they ain't done bad, of course a change of discs mean new pads too.

I did my Mazda fronts, discs/pads last year, just changed the pads at the rear discs were fine. Easy enough just push caliper back on the fronts, g clamp does the job, clean up the around the caliper piston, red rubber grease for the pins after cleaning those. Rears will most likely need a wind back tool, still easy enough on the piston.

Edited 17 September, 20205 yr by MickA