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HUD and Night Vision (Thermal ala FLIR) retrofit

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Hello,

 

As the technology moves forward to equip our cars with added level of security , I would like to know if fellow members

have successfully retrofitted HUD Display (I don't know if the current Skoda HUD display can be retrofitted on our the SS2)

as well as Thermal night vision cameras on the cars.

 

 

I am pretty interested to know what the adopted solutions are as well as any long term feedback on them.

 

As our cars use standard modules communicating over the CANbus, I am pretty sure, the SS2 can evolve well beyond its original specsheet.

 

 

Some years ago a Mercedes car enthusiast retrofitted these on his car and the results were pretty impressive to say the least (others video also interesting)

 

https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg-clk63-amg-w208-w209/497147-megacrazy-s-build-thread-5.html

 

 

 

Cheers :-)

I've used FLIR on vehicles before.

The problem is that you're basically looking at a 2D image, in an environment where stereoscopic vision is pretty necessary. Also, unless you can get the NV to precisely overlay your forward view, it just gets in the way and hampers your vision... which happens every time you go over a bump or sway as you go round a bend.

The ideal would be a head mounted 3D display with a FLIR that moves to mirror your head alignment, but since we can't all be Apache pilots, that's just never going to happen.

 

I think a HUD providing an overlay of data is good, but using it to see where you're driving just isn't viable. You move your head around too much, usually to see round the A pillar, or into the areas not quite fully lit by your headlights, a lot of which is outside the FLIR camera frame anyway. Additionally, having to refocus on a second image of the driving view isn't very efficient and messes with your head, and could even be a factor in your reaction time to something, like a deer stepping out in front of your car. Reaction times are quite small in road driving, compared to other vehicles in other environments.

 

Really I'd have to try it, but based on my experiences to date I'm not so convinced it has much more value than as a novelty.

'kin dangerous.

 

I'm all for the Darwinian pruning of the idiots that want to look at a screen and not the real world but not for the other innocent casualties.

Touch screens in cars are a bad enough issue, very distracting and hard to use while on the move.

Commen car conrols should all be physical knobs and switches so you can do what you need to do by touch alone.

 

anything make makes you change you point of focus is not great. A basic hud which is is focus as you look ahead isn't a abad idea but only very basic info.

 

I think in the future you'll have systems wich will point out items of note using FLIR etc but it won't be a streaming screen at short reach. It'll be imbedded into the screen

FLIR could work if eye-tracking technology gets good enough to accurately predict where the driver is looking, and use that to position the HUD overlay so that it is overlaid on the object picked up by the FLIR camera and focused appropriately so that what the driver sees is seamless. I'm not sure we're there yet.

 

21 hours ago, Aspman said:

Touch screens in cars are a bad enough issue, very distracting and hard to use while on the move.

Commen car conrols should all be physical knobs and switches so you can do what you need to do by touch alone.

Agreed. If you have to look at the controls the whole time you're interacting with them it's a problem.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 13:46, LBLJ said:

As our cars use standard modules communicating over the CANbus, I am pretty sure, the SS2 can evolve well beyond its original specsheet.

CANBUS is a data bus/communications protocol. It provides a standardised means of communications between devices on the network. It doesn't require that the devices must be able to understand & process data sent to them via the network.

 

To do what you are proposing, you will need to know in detail how each of the modules you are linking together function. What information they can send via C ANBUS, what they can receive & process, whether they are limited to only communicating with certain addresses, and probably a whole bunch of other stuff I'm not even aware of.

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