Thought I would share my intial impressions of my February 2020 FL Superb Hatchback which is my first diesel since early 2015 when I had a Vrs TDi DSG Octavia with the 184PS engine. Previously I have owned a 2005 Superb Elegance Auto with the 1.9TDi 130PS engine, then a 140PS manual SE 2009 MK2 hatchback (twin door) followed in 2012 by the same engine/gearbox but in an Elegance hatchback. Then I had a FL 2014 Elegance 140PS manual hatchback which was just £30 VED thanks to 119gm/km co2. My first MK3 Superb was a 2016 hatchback in white SE 1.4tsi manual which I ran for 16 months and 16,000 miles which I bought new in April 2016 with a few extras including privacy glass, SAT NAV and CANTON sound system. Didn't really take it on any long trips just commuting yet it averaged about 50mpg from the quiet petrol engine with a best tank of 800 miles which was excellent. Next up after 29,000 miles at 40mpg in an Octavia Vrs245 manual bought new in August 2017 was a March 2019 DSG Sportline Plus 272 hatch in black bought in late December 2019 in which I covered 9,000 miles but the spec was quite basic and although very fast and secure it still managed to a very good 40mpg average and was used on a long trip to Newquay and Weston Super Mare back in September 2020 when it covered 574 miles with 145 miles left in the tank when we got home (total range 719 miles). Brilliant though the 272 was it would egg you on to use the 4WD grip and accelerate hard out of roundabouts to very silly speeds very quickly indeed particulary after the AmD stage 1 remap giving 360bhp and 514nm. I could see me losing either my licence or worse my life in a huge crash so it had to go and I fancied the FL version but with more modest power outputs so a good spec was essential and I found this at my local Leicester Skoda dealer and it ticked all the boxes I was looking for including the very handy electric tailgate, rear reversing camera, blind spot mirror lights, virtual dash and CANTON sound upgrade plus the bonus of a 205 spare tyre/wheel. In standard Energy Blue I even liked the free colour on first viewing. Other highlights on the SEL model are the black leather seats, heated front seats, electric drivers seat, folding mirrors with puddle lights, dynamic rear LED indicators and front LED fog lights plus the amazing Matrix LED headlights which are incredibly bright and even better than the LED lights on the Vrs245.

Although I have had the car almost 8 weeks now it has sat in the drive for 4 weeks due to our 2 week holiday to Cyprus in late October followed by another 2 weeks at home under quarantine even though we didn't have Covid 19. Despite that having filled the tank with 55 litres of diesel (£60) on October 17th I have yet to put anymore fuel in it so after driving 765 miles so far and taking it past 7,000 miles now there is still an indicated 185 miles range left in the tank. The maxidot since refuelling screen suggests 66mpg average but I will calculate when I fill up this Sunday to be certain. Driving impressions are very good with the smooth 7 speed DSG box giving just 1,600rpm at 70mph making it hushed together with the quiet Continental 235/45R18 tyres which with the standard suspension give a lovely motorway ride. I have noticed when it was 0C outside that economy drops to between 58 to 64mpg but when it is only 5C outside I can still manage to get almost 70mpg. Solely used for 30 commutes of 27 miles so far the best going to work was 78.5mpg which matches the best Skoda claim for this car and it achieves really low 103gm/km co2 on the old testing cycle which makes it the most economical Skoda I have owned over 17 years with the brand beating the 109gm/km 2010 Fabia 1.6TDi estate and my 2013 Octavia SE 2.0TDi with 106gm/km.

 Has anyone else noticed the terrible echo in this site lately?  I keep hearing the same things repeating over and over again. Unlike real echoes, they don't die away though, and just when you think they've finally stopped......they start all over again.....

 

 

Edited 11 December, 20205 yr by xman

Although your mpg (and other stuff) stories are polarising on here, I quite like the efforts you go to to get good mileage from your motors. At last you are in one that is suitable for the subject.

My challenge to you is to see if you can get 1000 miles from it. And that's a real achieved 1k rather than projected based on fuel remaining.

2 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

can get 1000 miles

1000 kms easy, even with four passengers in the 2.0 TSI 220ps, just have to visit Estonia

read with Google Translate

-> https://www.drive2.ru/l/566134415047000397/

 

in Germany can't get half of that,

pleasure of drive is more important than economy :)

TL;DR. Has the remapped 272 gone then?

As the latest 150PS diesel or EVO version is brand new to Skoda thought I would check on tonight's rush hour commute how efficient it is with ambient temperature 8C. After 6 miles and just joined the motorway it was showing 50mpg, then after 8 miles 60mpg and after 10 miles 68mpg. As I passed Leicester at 13 miles it was 71mpg then at 15 miles when I was slowed by a 4 car pile up in the outside lane (typical Friday night madness as they adopt the 2 metre social distance rule on the M1) HAD REACHED 73.6MPG. At the end of the 27 mile commute managed a 72.3mpg at an average 39mph. Driven 819 miles now which is the first time I've gone past 800 miles on a tank. Showing 125 miles left in the tank.

14 minutes ago, unclerichy said:

TL;DR. Has the remapped 272 gone then?

Keep up 17th October 2020. 

Finally after 56 days and 838 miles the low fuel red warning bar lit up on the virtual dash with 115 miles left in the tank this morning LOL. Should get over 60 litres in tomorrow morning but won't be using the local BP garage as they charge £1.219 per litre for diesel and the Shell garage is even more expensive. Sainsbury's only 1 mile from exit 21 on the M1 on my way home and 8 weeks ago it was £1.099 per litre so it will save me a few pounds at least. Triple Nectar points coupon received in the post a nice bonus.

Handy tip for those who don't know how to reset the trip computer on the virtual dash go to SETTINGS and scroll down to INSTRUMENT CLUSTER and tap on the bottom choice which will ZERO the trip between fill ups of fuel. Got 74mpg on the commute tonight at an average speed of 43mph thanks to less traffic. 

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

Handy tip for those who don't know how to reset the trip computer on the virtual dash

 

You can do it via the dash too, driving data > trip > press to reset

2 minutes ago, langers2k said:

 

You can do it via the dash too, driving data > trip > press to reset

Do you mean using the steering wheel buttons?

1 minute ago, shyVRS245 said:

Do you mean using the steering wheel buttons?

 

Yup

Day 57 finally stopped for fuel after 23 hours driving and managed to squeeze in 65 litres (14.3 gallons) costing £72.74 (£1.119 per litre) and got 889 miles or 1,422km at an average speed of 39mph or 62kph and overall 62.17mpg. Skoda using the WLTP figures quote an average of 56.5mpg or 820 miles per tank.

Don't believe the MPG figures in the trip computer - it lies (isn't accurate).

 

I have never reached 1000 miles on a tank, I always chicken out at put some diesel in, but based on what was left in the tank when filled I would have managed it had I had the courage to risk it.

 

 

16 minutes ago, IJWS15 said:

Don't believe the MPG figures in the trip computer - it lies (isn't accurate).

 

I have never reached 1000 miles on a tank, I always chicken out at put some diesel in, but based on what was left in the tank when filled I would have managed it had I had the courage to risk it.

 

 

Mine said 50 miles left but I had already driven 51 miles with the red bar on the virtual dash. Computer suggested 66mpg so was about 7% out.

Had no need to use the SAT NAV during the first 2 months of ownership but my brother moved recently and needed to use it to drop off Xmas presents so wife was put in charge of entering the post code and I must say I really liked the map in the centre of the virtual dash and have decided to leave it there for the time being as everything else that I like can be seen on either side of the sat nav display. Sometimes wives can be useful especially in the passenger seat.

Last 7 days my car has been used much more than the first 8 weeks covering 327 miles with 605 left in the tank. Computer suggests 63mpg average but it was around 3mpg optimistic first time.

That's a really good average! I would have to struggle to get those numbers if even possible.

Has Skoda remapped the gaspedal ratio for the new engine or is it like the old engines?

My previous Mk2 Superb diesels were all manuals with the 140PS engine but they would only do about 475 miles for about 45 litres (they had a 62 litre tank from memory) so about 48mpg and the best trip I managed was the 2014 facelift which once did a 66mpg journey. I believe the fact that the 2020 model is on average 75kg lighter than the previous Mk3 models, longer gearing and improvements to the DSG with lower cruising rpm all help to achieve the improvements. I would usually remap a car like this but it has enough power (0-60mph in 9.1 seconds) so will be leaving it standard, top speed is still 135mph unlike most EV's which are capped at around 90-95mph.

Was going to ask when the map is coming. I reckon you'll change your mind by the end of 2021! 

49 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

Was going to ask when the map is coming. I reckon you'll change your mind by the end of 2021! 

It's the torque I like. The 150PS diesel probably has the same max torque figure of a 272/280 but much further down the rev range. Although this engine produces 110kw of power sometimes see on the virtual dash it is using just 4kw at 70mph which makes you wonder what a waste having 200kw under your right foot is.

On 22/12/2020 at 14:36, shyVRS245 said:

It's the torque I like. The 150PS diesel probably has the same max torque figure of a 272/280 but much further down the rev range. Although this engine produces 110kw of power sometimes see on the virtual dash it is using just 4kw at 70mph which makes you wonder what a waste having 200kw under your right foot is.

You definitely are not using 4kW of power at 70mph. 

 

Try around 25 is kW. 

On 23/12/2020 at 23:42, KeteCantek said:

You definitely are not using 4kW of power at 70mph. 

 

Try around 25 is kW. 

But you’re not driving a 2020 diesel to compare are you. Driving to work over the last 2 days have allowed better average speeds between 42-44mph and last 3 commutes of 65/66/67mpg. Currently driven 419 miles on 2nd tank with 530 miles range left.

7 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

But you’re not driving a 2020 diesel to compare are you. Driving to work over the last 2 days have allowed better average speeds between 42-44mph and last 3 commutes of 65/66/67mpg. Currently driven 419 miles on 2nd tank with 530 miles range left.

You said 4kW at 70mph. Now don't start saying it's down hill or part throttle because I can get any car to be at 70mph showing infinity mileage (0kW) if I momentarily go off the pedal. 

 

At a constant 70mph, you'll be using around 25kW and that's approximate from 10kWh a litre of diesel, 20km/L, 40% efficiency. 

 

 

Done 554 miles so far on the second tank and maxidot is saying average since refuelling is 63.8mpg. Would be just over 900 miles on this tank but I have a Nectar token for 5 times normal points to use before Saturday so will fill up after my final shift of 2020 on Thursday morning at around the 650 mile mark and calculate the actual mpg figure. Should be able to put in around 46-48 litres of diesel and last time I saw it was around £1.129 per litre.

3 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Done 554 miles so far on the second tank and maxidot is saying average since refuelling is 63.8mpg. Would be just over 900 miles on this tank but I have a Nectar token for 5 times normal points to use before Saturday so will fill up after my final shift of 2020 on Thursday morning at around the 650 mile mark and calculate the actual mpg figure. Should be able to put in around 46-48 litres of diesel and last time I saw it was around £1.129 per litre.

CRIKEY...One Thousand, One Hundred and Twenty Nine pounds for a litre of diesel...

Glad I drive a petrol !!!!