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Does anyone else with the Led headlights have serious issues with the auto dip and main beam function?? 
 

I know I can do it manually but I want to use it when I have it, especially when it works flawlessly on our 2014 Seat Alhambra with halogen lights. 

 

The main issues I’m finding are that the car fails to recognise oncoming traffic and also the taillights of cars in front.

When rolling hills are thrown into the mix etc it really does not work at all.

It constantly dips for cars and will then put the main beam on before they have passed blinding them. 
 

It’s really really annoying, dangerous, and as mentioned our Alhambra doesn’t fail once ever!!

 

Has anyone else suffered issues like this and did they find a fix? Dealer no use and car out of warranty period. 

Edited by MrWJG

It's not perfect is it. Mine is similar. Think of it more of an assistant than a fully automatic system. It's there to help prevent complete numptys from blinding everyone all of the time. 

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1 minute ago, TDIum said:

It's not perfect is it. Mine is similar. Think of it more of an assistant than a fully automatic system. It's there to help prevent complete numptys from blinding everyone all of the time. 

It’s totally useless compared to our Seat. I wonder is the difference in the camera fitted to Skoda’s or the possibility of the camera mounting position being higher on the Alhambra giving a much better perspective of the road ahead as it has never once had to be manually overridden. 

Mine works pretty well.

 

If you have lane assist or traffic sign assist, you get a better camera which might be more accurate. Whereas if you only have high beam assist, the camera isn't as good.

I've said it before, I emphasise the word "assist" when I'm using them on my car.

I have the car as per signature and I coded in this feature - unlike earlier models, there is no separate "sensitivity" coding, so I'm stuck with the system "as is".

It does work, it does do its job, however I never sit back and allow it to take over as I know that on a very long road it'll not pick up someone until they are closer, it'll miss something for whatever reason.

I only have the basic camera (20 not A5) in my Octavia and find that HBA works 'almost' perfectly - it's late dipping maybe one time in a hundred, so we use it all the time.

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3 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

I only have the basic camera (20 not A5) in my Octavia and find that HBA works 'almost' perfectly - it's late dipping maybe one time in a hundred, so we use it all the time.

Just tonight on my way home it flashed full beam at two oncoming cars after it had dipped and then wouldn’t dip for another. To me it’s totally useless and I also disagree with the comment re the higher spec camera as our Alhambra is a basic SE spec without dab and it works flawlessly. 

With vcds or other obd tool it is possible to adjust lumen level of switching point, plenty people did it, I drive very rare with high beams so for me it is working but sometimes fails. 

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3 minutes ago, FrankLK said:

With vcds or other obd tool it is possible to adjust lumen level of switching point, plenty people did it, I drive very rare with high beams so for me it is working but sometimes fails. 

I have full VCDS but have never seen how to adjust this. I must have a look into it. Thanks for the tip. 

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43 minutes ago, FrankLK said:

With vcds or other obd tool it is possible to adjust lumen level of switching point, plenty people did it, I drive very rare with high beams so for me it is working but sometimes fails. 

Have you any links to this as yet can’t find any in relation to Octavia MK3 FL? 

I'm searching and I can't find it back, i found only this image which shows settings of light sensor. 

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With the way the auto/override works, it would be better to have a more sensitive setting, so the full beam is turned off more readily. 

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1 hour ago, FrankLK said:

I'm searching and I can't find it back, i found only this image which shows settings of light sensor. 

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Now how to find this on VCDS 

Just to point out, the coding and adaption channels can vary wildly between different versions of the cameras so just because one version can be tweaked, it doesn't mean they all can.

 

Looking at the screenshot from Frank, that looks like the RLS/RLHS sensor adaptions so can only tweak the auto headlights (on/off) rather than the high beam assist...

 

Certainly on the A5 camera as fitted to my MY18 Octavia, there are no obvious adjustments that can be made :sadsmile:

14 hours ago, FrankLK said:

With vcds or other obd tool it is possible to adjust lumen level of switching point, plenty people did it, I drive very rare with high beams so for me it is working but sometimes fails. 

Not an option on the Facelift.

High-Beam Assist is a reasonably good function, but you have to understand its limitations.  Firstly, its an Assist function - it helps, it doesn't always get things right.  In the case of my Scout, it tends to get things badly wrong a lot of the time.  Oddly enough, in my VRS (20mm lower than the Scout) - High Beam Assist is really quite good.  I think it is an angle thing with the A5 camera.  However, to help, I make sure that in Car->Settings->Lights - that I set the setting to "Early" - which dips the beam quicker than "Normal" or "Late".

I did some coding but this not, yes in settings you must choose early, in normal it was bad, and my car is lowered 30mm, not sure does it make a difference but to me HBA works more or less ok on FL. 

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I’ll give the early setting a go as I had it set to late because the dipped headlights where coming on during broad daylight as far back as August 

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So I can report back now having tested the “Early” setting for the last few days back to back with our 2014 Alhambra SE basic everything with HBA. 
 

I can only say the HBA on my FL 2017 SEL is just as useless as ever. It must have a serious fault as it constantly puts on main beam for on coming cars, blinding them and conversely won’t switch off main beam or in fact switches it on when following other vehicles. It gets it totally wrong for at a guess 7 out of every 10 cars. In back to back testing on the same roads at the same ish times each evening our Seat Alhambra has yet to be beaten once!!!!

 

I very much doubt I’ll be back to Skoda about it as they will want a kings ransom to investigate, diagnose, and remedy now that it’s out of warranty. 
 

it’s a pity because as it’s a very very useful feature to have and is very beneficial when driving on wet nights given i live in a totally rural area, and with the distraction of a car full of kids. 

Assume the windscreen is clean in and out and also camera lens is clean.  I had the lane assist on my 2015 Scout with halogens and the beam assist worked brilliantly, absolutely faultless and thats taking into account its housed into holder that is directly onto the windscreen and I was aware the area in front of the camera was dirty but couldn't get to it to clean it.

 

My A6 camera is built in on the rear view mirror and I would say it doesn't turn off quite as quickly as I think it should, but its still good.  Also I'd like to get it to kick in at a lower speed as 30 ish mph is too low - ill tweak that with VCDS when I get a chance.

 

 

I had HBA on the old car and it was pretty good most of the time - until it had its windscreen changed. Then it would be stupidly late and wierdly wrong. 

Is this the case on yours? I was under the impression there was a way to calibrate it, too... 

 

 - Bret

More clarification on HBA.  I agree that if there is a sensitivity setting, that it does need to be applied to the car....I saw the settings on another thread, but has been talked about here, some models don't allow for modifications to be made to the A5 camera.  Basically, if the oncoming car has old yellowing halogens, HBA is useless....the trigger point set for dipping is not met until they are right on you (useless).  If you have LED or Xenons, then HBA works just fine (under Early setting for dipping).  The same applied to tail lights - Ford Transit vans with weak tailights are useless because HBA doesn't pick up the light levels, but if the car in front has decent tail lights, then HBA works just fine.

 

As I have a car with heightened suspension (Scout) and one with a lowered suspension (VRS), the lower the camera to the road, the better it seems to work.  I assume this is a lining up issue with the cameras.  I would be interested to try HBA on a SE-L or L&K variant to test whether it works any better or worse.

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On 21/12/2020 at 09:50, ScoutCJB said:

Assume the windscreen is clean in and out and also camera lens is clean.  I had the lane assist on my 2015 Scout with halogens and the beam assist worked brilliantly, absolutely faultless and thats taking into account its housed into holder that is directly onto the windscreen and I was aware the area in front of the camera was dirty but couldn't get to it to clean it.

 

My A6 camera is built in on the rear view mirror and I would say it doesn't turn off quite as quickly as I think it should, but its still good.  Also I'd like to get it to kick in at a lower speed as 30 ish mph is too low - ill tweak that with VCDS when I get a chance.

 

 

Glass is as clean as it can be. I detail family cars in my spare time. 
 

19 hours ago, brettikivi said:

I had HBA on the old car and it was pretty good most of the time - until it had its windscreen changed. Then it would be stupidly late and wierdly wrong. 

Is this the case on yours? I was under the impression there was a way to calibrate it, too... 

 

 - Bret

factory glass all round with matching etching on all of it. 

 

4 hours ago, varaderoguy said:

More clarification on HBA.  I agree that if there is a sensitivity setting, that it does need to be applied to the car....I saw the settings on another thread, but has been talked about here, some models don't allow for modifications to be made to the A5 camera.  Basically, if the oncoming car has old yellowing halogens, HBA is useless....the trigger point set for dipping is not met until they are right on you (useless).  If you have LED or Xenons, then HBA works just fine (under Early setting for dipping).  The same applied to tail lights - Ford Transit vans with weak tailights are useless because HBA doesn't pick up the light levels, but if the car in front has decent tail lights, then HBA works just fine.

 

As I have a car with heightened suspension (Scout) and one with a lowered suspension (VRS), the lower the camera to the road, the better it seems to work.  I assume this is a lining up issue with the cameras.  I would be interested to try HBA on a SE-L or L&K variant to test whether it works any better or worse.

A FL SEL has factory LED headlights and under the early setting it makes no difference at all. I would say that the point about camera orientation could be valid but I have found our Alhambra to be perfect with HBA and it’s camera sits much much higher than the Octavia. Some way of adjusting the camera sensitivity would be great if it did exist. 

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for it to work properly, you need to calibrate the camera with a special device and after replacing the glass it is obligatory.

 

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Hey guys I have a Skoda Superb 2011 with a normal underwindshield sensor but my rain sensor and auto high beams are not working. Is there a way to turn them on or are they not installed at all? Here is the pic of the sensor what it looks like...

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