Hello

Is there any suspension mods anyone have done that resultet in increased comfort of the Fabia?
I see alot of the lowering kits and coilovers have progressive springs on them, tho i dont really want lower ride height.

If your car is over ten years old then simply replace all the standard shocks with new ones, yours will be tired and that makes for a poor ride.

4 hours ago, Truls84 said:

Is there any suspension mods anyone have done that resultet in increased comfort of the Fabia?
I see a lot of the lowering kits and coilovers have progressive springs on them, though I don't really want lower ride height.

 

The Greenline models have sports suspension. This is 15mm lower than standard and makes for a harder ride.

 

You could change the springs to standard and keep the shock absorbers that are on the car, or change to both standard springs and shock absorbers.

 

What OEM part numbers do your front and rear springs have? Or attach a photo of your car's build codes and someone could look the OEM part numbers up.

 

Choice of tyre size makes a big difference to ride comfort.

 

What size tyres have you got fitted? If you have 15" tyres, then changing down to 14" will make a big difference. If you are have 16" tyres, then changing down to 14" or 15" will make a big difference.

 

What tyre pressures are you using?

 

According to wheel-size.com the Fabia MK2 1.4TDi was fitted with 165/70R14 or 185/60R14 tyres as standard.

Skoda Fabia 2008 1.4TDI

– Generation: Mk2 5J [2007 .. 2014] [EUDM]  

– Power: 79 hp | 59 kW | 80 PS 

– Engine: BNV, I4, Diesel

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm 

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts 

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5 

– Trim Production: [2007 .. 2010]

Tire	Rim	PCD
165/70R14 85T	5Jx14 ET35	5x100	2.2 / 2.1
185/60R14 82T	6Jx14 ET37	5x100	2.2 / 2.1
185/55R15 82T	6Jx15 ET43	5x100	2.1
195/55R15 85H	6Jx15 ET43	5x100	2.1
195/50R15 82H	6Jx15 ET43	5x100	2 / 2.1
205/45R16 83V	6.5Jx16 ET43	5x100	2 / 2.1

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/fabia/2008/

 

Edited 27 January, 20215 yr by Carlston

For the Fabia MK2 1.4TDi, the standard front springs have OEM part number 6Q0411105AK and the standard rear springs have OEM part number 6Q0511115K

 

Standard Front Springs with OEM part number 6Q0411105AK

Kilen 23108

Lesjofors 4085709

 

Standard Rear Springs with OEM part number 6Q0511115K

Kilen 63106

Lesjofors 4285707

 

These two makes are available on ebay for about £20 each. There are other big name brands, but often they will be about £30 each.

 

Kilen and Lesjofors are actually the same springs, just different brand names. They are both made in the same factory in Sweden.

 

Edited 28 January, 20215 yr by Carlston

9 hours ago, Carlston said:

For the Fabia MK2 1.4TDi, the standard front springs have OEM part number 6Q0411105AK and the standard rear springs have OEM part number 6Q0511115K

 

Standard Front Springs with OEM part number 6Q0411105AK

Kilen 23108

Lesjofors 4085709

 

Standard Rear Springs with OEM part number 6Q0511115K

Kilen 63106

Lesjofors 4285707

 

These two makes are available on ebay for about £20 each. There are other big name brands, but often they will be about £30 each.

 

Kilen and Lesjofors are actually the same springs, just different brand names. They are both made in the same factory in Sweden.

 

Thank you so much for the detailed answers!
The wheels are 185/65R14 Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8's. Originally i had 165/70R14's but i changed to get more contack patch on the winter tyres.
The wheels should just be within legal limits when it comes to diameter increase. Im running hight pressure; ~3bar normally. Tyres are wearing evenly with it.

 

heres the codes, i hope they are the right ones.

 

I think the OEM numbers for the springs are :
Front: 6Q0411105AK
Rear:  6Q0511115M

Would like to retain OEM ride height if possible.

Carlston is correct in saying the Greenline is lowered although I believe it was by 20mm. It was a part go their efforts to lower drag and increase MPG. They also had different size, lower resistance tyres, a larger under tray and a few with cutting details, along with different gear ratios. I would stick to the proper lowered size suspension, if I were you and needed to replace it. After that, you may well want to go down the "Sound deadening" Route with those kits or sticky mats that are available as by cutting sound, you will find the drive less fatiguing, particularly if you drive long distances or for extended periods. Generally, I find the car to be reasonably comfortable with the biggest gripe perhaps as it being a bit harsh if you hit speed bumps/potholes etc too fast/hard. This is more down to observations and driving style, which only you can improve! Plusher, quality shocks will help though, if you have the budget but if driving poorly, they will also become horrible in a short space of time. Standard shocks on most street cars are a compromise between comfort and durability, and of course, cost!

2 hours ago, mrgf said:

Carlston is correct in saying the Greenline is lowered although I believe it was by 20mm. It was a part go their efforts to lower drag and increase MPG. They also had different size, lower resistance tyres, a larger under tray and a few with cutting details, along with different gear ratios. I would stick to the proper lowered size suspension, if I were you and needed to replace it. After that, you may well want to go down the "Sound deadening" Route with those kits or sticky mats that are available as by cutting sound, you will find the drive less fatiguing, particularly if you drive long distances or for extended periods. Generally, I find the car to be reasonably comfortable with the biggest gripe perhaps as it being a bit harsh if you hit speed bumps/potholes etc too fast/hard. This is more down to observations and driving style, which only you can improve! Plusher, quality shocks will help though, if you have the budget but if driving poorly, they will also become horrible in a short space of time. Standard shocks on most street cars are a compromise between comfort and durability, and of course, cost!

 

Nice to know that the car is more special than just a badge on the back of it. Next time some of the BMW guys mention the M-sport package i can chime in and say that i also have sport suspension=)

I been reading up on premium dampeners, a local company distributes Bilstein and i read good stuff about their B6(EDIT, guess it would be B8's for my car?). May also change from the Hakkapeliitta 8's to some studdless tyres.
Think changing the bushings and mounts to new ones wil aid in ride comfort? I guess both the enginemounts, transmission mounts and most bushings are 13 years old now, the rubber may be getting worn.

 

The car has dynamat everywhere except for the roof, im gonna do the roof next month. I got a tread under the Fabia Projects section with the progress.

Edited 28 January, 20215 yr by Truls84

Some people change many rubber mounts for better quality stuff, such as Powerflex. There is supposedly ONE mount they recommend not to swap unless off road/tracking. Too harsh, I think. I believe it is one of the engine mounts. Worn drop links are often replaced with Meyle heavy duty (HD) ones and they carry a four year warranty. On ebay, they are cheaper then the main dealers normal ones, too!

L13 front springs have OEM part number 6Q0411105M

 

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6Q0411105M

coil spring 3 paint marks 1 paint mark

red green Model data: PR-L13

 

Sports/lowered/greenline 6Q0411105M front springs are 59mm shorter than standard 6Q0411105AK front springs.

 

6Q0411105M front springs (309mm long)

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/86703/detail?query=6Q0411105M&numberType=1&oe=6Q0411105M&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%206Q0411105M;mandator:gkn;query:6Q0411105M;groups:188;brands:1;pf:2;page:0/detail:86703;brandId:1;articleNo:86703;mandator:gkn;query:6Q0411105M;numberType:1;oe:6Q0411105M;groups:188

 

6Q0411105M front springs (368mm long)

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/56292/detail?query=6Q0411105AK&numberType=1&oe=6Q0411105AK&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%206Q0411105AK;mandator:gkn;query:6Q0411105AK;groups:188;brands:1;pf:2;page:0/detail:56292;brandId:1;articleNo:56292;mandator:gkn;query:6Q0411105AK;numberType:1;oe:6Q0411105AK;groups:188

 

No wonder the ride is hard on the Greenline.

 

What is the recommended tyre pressure front/rear on the Fabia MK2 1.4TDi Greenline with 165/70R14 tyres?

 

3 Bar (44psi) tyre pressure is too high for 185/65R14 tyres. This would be too much even for the standard 165/70R14 tyres.

 

You need to be using about 0.3 Bar (4psi or 5psi) less tyre pressure with 185/65R14 tyres than with 165/70R14 tyres. Maybe 2.2 Bar (32psi) front and 2.0 Bar (29psi) rear if you only have 1 or 2 people in the car. More if it's fully loaded.

 

Edited 29 January, 20215 yr by Carlston

2.7 both front and rear with unloaded car.
2.7 front and 3.0 rear with load.

 

I lowered the pressure to 2.2 front and back. Il test it for a few days and then go up to 2.4 and see if i can tel any difference.
There is around 30kg of extra weight(seperator, snowchains, full size spare wheel and a dog) in the back of the car at all times so i guessed it would be better to run the back as if it was half loaded.

It starts to get overwhelmingly tempting to go over everything under the car:P

The eibach.de website has an online catalogue where you can find out what springs eibach sells for your particular car model.

 

Eibach sell two types of aftermarket springs. ERL and Pro-Kit.

 

ERL (Eibach Replacement Line) are standard ride height springs.

 

Pro-Kit are 30mm lowered springs.

 

https://www.eibach.de/en/

 

http://web2.carparts-cat.com/default.aspx?11=279&14=15&1115=1&1281=17=0&10=CB5B61EB34F54FD0976119BCED0FA042279015&12=100

 

http://web2.carparts-cat.com/default.aspx?34=0,2047566&240=0&32=22949&230=29&1271=48&1272=3711a928-6aad-497f-b53d-f31d020a6ad1&1273=1&10=CB5B61EB34F54FD0976119BCED0FA042279015&14=15&12=130

 

Eibach Pro-Kit E10-79-006-02-22 (front and rear sports springs)

 

Pro-Kit

Article status: Normal

Mounting location :  Front axle ,  Drawdown approx. :  30  mm ,  Mounting location :  Rear axle ,  Drawdown approx. :  30  mm

with technical inspection certificate ,  Front axle weight. up to :  960  kg ,  Rear axle weight. up to :  840  kg ,  for vehicles without level adjustment

 

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Pro-Kit-Tieferlegungsfedern-30mm-u-a-fur-Skoda-Fabia-II-542-Bj-2007-2014/373054750648?epid=1205502331&hash=item56dbcbbfb8%3Ag%3AVL8AAOSwLYdfrtti&LH_ItemCondition=1000

 

Edited 29 January, 20215 yr by Carlston

The information you bring is notting more than impressive Carlston.

Would the Eibach refere to the car with stock suspension or with sports suspension?
It they referance the stock Fabia then the Pro kit would only lover the greenline by 10-15mm. In that case the ERL would lift the Greenline by 15-20mm.

 

I also believe that the 5j is ment to use the Eibach Pro-Kit E10-79-006-04-22 and that the Eibach Pro-Kit E10-79-006-02-22 is ment for the 6y fabia, tho both should mechanically be interchangable.

The E10-79-006-04-22 kit lovers front by 30mm and rear by 20mm.

5 hours ago, Truls84 said:

Would Eibach refer to the car with stock suspension or with sports suspension?
If they reference the stock Fabia then the Pro-Kit would only lower the greenline by 10-15mm. In that case the ERL would lift the Greenline by 15-20mm.

I also believe that the 5J Fabia is meant to use the Eibach Pro-Kit E10-79-006-04-22 and that the Eibach Pro-Kit E10-79-006-02-22 is meant for the 6Y Fabia, though both should mechanically be interchangeable.

 

These seem to be the Eibach Pro-Kit front and rear springs for the Fabia MK2 1.2TSi, but check carefully yourself. 

 

Eibach Pro-Kit Front Spring

F11-85-008-01-VA

Front axle weight 960kg

 

Eibach Pro-Kit Rear Spring

F11-85-008-01-HA

Rear axle weight 840kg

 

F11-85-008-01-VA + F11-85-008-01-HA = E10-79-006-01-22

 

Eibach refers to the car with standard suspension when they claim a 30mm reduction in ride height.

 

Edited 30 January, 20215 yr by Carlston