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First Stone Chip - 5 weeks old

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Washing the car yesterday and saw the first stone chip on the bonnet - only done 140 miles. 

 

Theres also tar splashed on the nearside - dont know where either occurred, but only been round the doors.

 

Have to send for some touch up paint tonight, although its a job I hate doing.

 

Must be a Skoda thing as same thing happened with my Octavia in the first week of ownership.

 

Is there any other methods of getting rid of the stone chips now.?

That's why I had mine wrapped with PPF. Paint and windscreens are shocking on VAG cars for stone chips 

 

Edited by Tim1631

ha ha ha...  yes it's only VAG cars that stones are attracted to. It doesn't matter if you have four extra layers of paint and wax the car everyday, nothing is going to stop the sharp edge of a stone impacting you at 30mph. And that's just driving around town, 70mph if it's on the motorway. And if the stone is thrown up from the car in front, God knows what the effective impact speed is, yet people seem to blame lack of paint protection !  Let me assure you that if you're on your bicycle and a stone hits you, well lets just say a few layers of paint ain't going to stop it hurting.

 

If you want the chip to disappear then look towards having it done professionally. I've tried various methods myself but it's been for protection rather than aesthetics. You need the correct skill, tools and conditions to do the job properly.  It's just one of the hazards of driving, and all comes down to luck.

 

Having owned my Octavia for over 3.5 years, I traded it in last August - not a single blemish in the paintwork. If VAG paint was 'shocking' that wouldn't have been the case. As I say, it comes down to pure luck. Paint protection quality is certainly less than it used to be but that's not a VAG issue, you can blame legislation for that. Cars use water based paints now, the previous solvent based paints were banned.

 

I've never had a mark on any windscreen either. I've owned an Audi A4, three VW Golfs, a SEAT Ateca, a Skoda Octavia, Karoq and Kodiaq so I disagree with the 'shocking' quality description too. Besides, do VAG make windscreens? I'm not sure they do. Aren't they supplied by 3rd parties who also supply many other manufacturers?  And aren't windscreens built to certain standards as laid down by law? To single out VAG windscreens as 'shocking' sounds *******s if I'm being honest. Sounds more of a 'chip-on-the shoulder'  rather than on the windscreen. :D

 

 

Edited by Guest

I hope you get it sorted - so annoying but I agree with Scot5 in getting it done professionally, especially when the car is so young. I'm seething tonight as I kerbed my nearside front wheel this morning. Only have 900 miles on the clock. Grrrr

 

Jon

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11 hours ago, JonVonWeston said:

I hope you get it sorted - so annoying but I agree with Scot5 in getting it done professionally, especially when the car is so young. I'm seething tonight as I kerbed my nearside front wheel this morning. Only have 900 miles on the clock. Grrrr

 

Jon

I feel your pain. It happens when you least expect it to.:crying:

 

16 hours ago, Scot5 said:

ha ha ha...  yes it's only VAG cars that stones are attracted to. It doesn't matter if you have four extra layers of paint and wax the car everyday, nothing is going to stop the sharp edge of a stone impacting you at 30mph. And that's just driving around town, 70mph if it's on the motorway. And if the stone is thrown up from the car in front, God knows what the effective impact speed is, yet people seem to blame lack of paint protection !  Let me assure you that if you're on your bicycle and a stone hits you, well lets just say a few layers of paint ain't going to stop it hurting.

 

If you want the chip to disappear then look towards having it done professionally. I've tried various methods myself but it's been for protection rather than aesthetics. You need the correct skill, tools and conditions to do the job properly.  It's just one of the hazards of driving, and all comes down to luck.

 

Having owned my Octavia for over 3.5 years, I traded it in last August - not a single blemish in the paintwork. If VAG paint was 'shocking' that wouldn't have been the case. As I say, it comes down to pure luck. Paint protection quality is certainly less than it used to be but that's not a VAG issue, you can blame legislation for that. Cars use water based paints now, the previous solvent based paints were banned.

 

I've never had a mark on any windscreen either. I've owned an Audi A4, three VW Golfs, a SEAT Ateca, a Skoda Octavia, Karoq and Kodiaq so I disagree with the 'shocking' quality description too. Besides, do VAG make windscreens? I'm not sure they do. Aren't they supplied by 3rd parties who also supply many other manufacturers?  And aren't windscreens built to certain standards as laid down by law? To single out VAG windscreens as 'shocking' sounds *******s if I'm being honest. Sounds more of a 'chip-on-the shoulder'  rather than on the windscreen. :D

 

 

It's not only Skodas, if you lived in Lincolnshire, where they dress many of main arterial and all of the A and B roads with chippings, I can guarantee over 3-4 years you'd have chipped paint or a replacement screen. It's obviously down to bad luck also. I had my MkII front resprayed, paint chips and 2 heated screens on the MkIII. The Superb already has a couple of marks. 

My Citigo was nearly new, and I remember the pain of finding stone chips. No amount of waxing will stop the little <expletive>! :) It's so nice to have a 'mint' motor, but they are a worry. Feel your pain.

 

I must admit, I feel so much happier in older cars. I never have to worry about where I park them, or the gravel blast that is an oncoming gritter lorry. The newest car on our family fleet is 2013. Much more relaxed about it. 

Could be worse. A guy I worked with in the 80s scraped a wall on the way home from collecting his his brand new car. It had less than 15 miles on the clock.

 

tom 

Once upon a time, a coworker of mine rolled his new flimsy caravan over on a curve he took too fast when happily driving it home from the caravan factory.

On 01/03/2021 at 17:19, Scot5 said:

ha ha ha...  yes it's only VAG cars that stones are attracted to. It doesn't matter if you have four extra layers of paint and wax the car everyday, nothing is going to stop the sharp edge of a stone impacting you at 30mph. And that's just driving around town, 70mph if it's on the motorway. And if the stone is thrown up from the car in front, God knows what the effective impact speed is, yet people seem to blame lack of paint protection !  Let me assure you that if you're on your bicycle and a stone hits you, well lets just say a few layers of paint ain't going to stop it hurting.

 

If you want the chip to disappear then look towards having it done professionally. I've tried various methods myself but it's been for protection rather than aesthetics. You need the correct skill, tools and conditions to do the job properly.  It's just one of the hazards of driving, and all comes down to luck.

 

Having owned my Octavia for over 3.5 years, I traded it in last August - not a single blemish in the paintwork. If VAG paint was 'shocking' that wouldn't have been the case. As I say, it comes down to pure luck. Paint protection quality is certainly less than it used to be but that's not a VAG issue, you can blame legislation for that. Cars use water based paints now, the previous solvent based paints were banned.

 

I've never had a mark on any windscreen either. I've owned an Audi A4, three VW Golfs, a SEAT Ateca, a Skoda Octavia, Karoq and Kodiaq so I disagree with the 'shocking' quality description too. Besides, do VAG make windscreens? I'm not sure they do. Aren't they supplied by 3rd parties who also supply many other manufacturers?  And aren't windscreens built to certain standards as laid down by law? To single out VAG windscreens as 'shocking' sounds *******s if I'm being honest. Sounds more of a 'chip-on-the shoulder'  rather than on the windscreen. :D

 

 

 

Bloody hell, you seen your arse with that reply didn't you. It didake me laugh our loud, so thanks for the laugh 

 

In my experience with many, many the paint and windscreen are of bad quality or I'm just unlucky 😂

 

My 135i has perfect paint seems harder than VAGs paint, although that only has 4500 miles. 

 

My partners A35 seems harder paint too, no chips on that, although she drives slower than me 😳

 

No stone chips on my Karoq with 10,000 mostly motorway miles with the self healing film on it. I don't drive att 56 miles per hour in the slow lane either 

 

Checking the other VAG forums seems I'm not the only one either. 

 

PPF was worth the extra, I must get it on my other cars too..... Eventually. 

Edited by Tim1631

Subaru are well known for having soft paint and easily chipped by stones.

Stone chips was the least of my concerns living in my previous country town. I was more concerned about bloody kangaroos and emus.

Probably more likely to be condition of the roads in your area than vag paint quality.

It's part of owning a car stonechips sadly and why the paint businesses exist.

Regarding dealing with the issue, IMO, if its down to metal,apply tiny bit of kurust then apply tiny amount of paint with a cotton bud, wait to dry then apply another dab of paint, dry, repeat etc until layers match factory depth etc.

Good luck

 

 

 

2 hours ago, whitevx said:

Subaru are well known for having soft paint and easily chipped by stones.

Stone chips was the least of my concerns living in my previous country town. I was more concerned about bloody kangaroos and emus.

I'm not an expert (or even Australian) but I'm sure you'll need some filler to go with the touch up paint when repairing a kangaroo chip.

Edited by Tolpol62

The debate might be appropriate on if 'soft paint' and lacquer is less liable to chips than 'hard paint' and lacquer.    Then what do Subaru and others finish their Rally inspired cars for sale to the general public with.     I am a time served car sprayer but started spraying cellulose paint, and 2 pack and never really did much with water based paints. When I did industrial spraying for the offshore oil and gas industry and for mining then I used some very different knock resistant finished which had different degrees of hardness. 

Edited by e-Roottoot

I'm with Scot5. 

 

Search any car forum and you'll find tales of perceived poor paint quality.  it's all down to bad luck with stone chips.

 

Same with tyre makes and punctures.  I've run our cars on Michelins for over thirty years.  My OH averages a puncture every 18 months.  I do twice as much mileage and have had four puntures n the same time.  Same roads, same traffic, same car parks.

I always make sure to park any brand new car in the sun on purpose in order to 'cook' the paint. My cars certainly go nowhere near a commercial car wash in the first year. 

 

tom

If anyone's interested, I got a touch-up pen from here for my Crystal Black paint - 

 

https://motornuts.co.uk/colour-match-paints

 

The middle one has the same cap and needle nib fitting as the ones you get in Halfords, they're good for very small marks where the pale undercoat is showing.  I haven't bothered with clear lacquer on marks up to 3mm, leaving them for a  week then plenty of decent polish.

 

Excellent quality and worth trying at the price.

I was told to use a cocktail stick to touch in stone chips as the point is smaller than the unwieldly touch-up brush. I remember that in the past BMW advertised self-healing paint on its cars. What happened to that innovation? 

Edited by edbostan

Was it on April 1?

I was told the same about he cocktail stick.

I also mixed the Clear Coat with the base colour on my metallic black Tiguan (for the chips)and used some t-cut and then a good polish/wax afterwards (as the clearcoat painted on top of the basecoat looked awful).  Seemed to give a better result. 

 

Self healing paint my a**e :-)

Is that like self lowering emissions test results?

 

 

Edited by smipx

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