I'm happy that you are happy.
But that goes to show oem designed airboxes have a reason for their restrictive nature.
But I with lpg got a consumption going with 5th gear at 3000rpm of 6.9L/100km and you are claiming numbers of 5.5L.
How is that possible.
Except if the chipping does some aggresive advanicing therefore making the engine more efficient.
Do you run 95RON or 100RON gas.
Does the engine ping at high load low rpm situations

Edited 6 June, 20214 yr by Thefeliciahacker

5 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

But I with lpg got a consumption going with 5th gear at 3000rpm of 6.9L/100km and you are claiming numbers of 5.5L.
How is that possible.
Except if the chipping does some aggresive advanicing therefore making the engine more efficient.
Do you run 95RON or 100RON gas.
Does the engine ping at high load low rpm situations

 

In the past i have done hundreds of measurements of fuel consumption for: traffic, driving on highway (loaded or not), sport driving in mountain (alone or loaded)

For driving on national road with steady speed (not pushing on red lines) i had 7,3 lt/100 km, then 7 latter 6,50 and now 5,34 ..but how?

New ECU remapping, new MAP sensor, better suspension, new thermostat sensor, fuel injection system cleaned recently, new Lambda sensor, throttle is clean, valves on proper 0,25-0,20 gap, Mocool added on coolant, Champion spark plugs, no extra air inside the airbox.

In the past from all of those always something was ''missing" or it was wrong for example i had wrong gap in the valves wrong reference of spark plugs, too much air on the airbox (as i already have shown here) , the MAP was old and dirty, not proper fitting of the pipe that brings air to the throttle, suspension springs in bad condition etc.

 

I fill the tank is a specific way, always in specific gas stations so after all these years from experience i can say (paying some attention to the needle of the fuel tank gauge and the coolant temperature gauge) when something is not right for the gas station's pump or i have pushed the pedal too much.

Yesterday the pump stopped at 4,4 litres and the odometer wrote 82,3 km and i did this test in purpose (i was very late for supper and i had some grouchiness), of course if the time was different or the road had too many cars and i had to brake-dowhshift often the results could be a little bit different.The summer holidays are near so i would have a better image because i will travel much more on national road and i will have more measurements to post.

I use 95RON with some additives and sometimes 100RON.

An update: I have wrapped the exhaust manifold with titanium tape so i have a click less temperature inside the engine bay

i have removed the U stripes so the hot air can escape now (for long time was trapped inside).

 

Here is the receipt from the gas station, the odometer wrote that time 82,3 km, for sure i can not guarantee that this would be the consumption every time i go on the highway and i have some tests to do inside a city traffic but after all these years this was a very pleasant surprise.

The first 2 times i was suspicious but the 3rd time couldn't be a coincidence, after all these changes (plus the new gas station) my Trusty works better on fuel management at least on highways.

For the other members i explain the numbers on the receipt:

 

Fuel: Unleaded 95 RON

Code:

Price: 1,568 euro per litre of gasoline

Quantity: 4,4 litres

Net value: 5,56 euro

Tax: 1,34 euro

Total amount: 6,90 euro

.............................

Fuels net value: 2,48 euro

Taxes and Duties: 4,42 euro

 

So you have the most economical felly in Europe it seems like.
That makes my lpg conversion obsolete if I have a consumption of 7-7.5L\100km doing 3000rpm that equates to 6.5euros\100km

While with gas you would spend 8.35euros/100km.

Thats bull**** given it makes the car underperform thus there is no financial incentive for lpg install on the felly.

15 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

there is no financial incentive for lpg install on the felly.

You can say that again. Let's not forget that it takes a while to recover the cost of LPG installation.

23 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

So you have the most economical felly in Europe it seems like.

That makes my lpg conversion obsolete if I have a consumption of 7-7.5L\100km doing 3000rpm

 

Wait for the new test (city traffic) the results for sure would be different.

I had 7,1-7,3lt / 100 Km consumption with hard sport driving on mountain roads reaching many times the 5500 rpm red notch.

 

As for the Mocoll additive, i saw on the highway coolant temperature 70-80 'C maximum ever when i reached the 5500 rpm limit some times

later on traffic i saw 82 'C and the needle never pass this, in the past (No Mocool) i have seen many times 85 'C on the gauge.

 

On 16/05/2021 at 21:48, KenONeill said:

The reason the scoop on the Mustang works is that it's over the air intake, and also not over the HT electrics.

 

I saw this on Mustang 1969, the scoop lets some air to bypass so the blower can have some.

Low quality photo (snapshot).

 

 

On 06/06/2021 at 14:57, D.FYLAKTOS said:

5,34 ..but how?

New ECU remapping, new MAP sensor, better suspension, new thermostat sensor, fuel injection system cleaned recently, new Lambda sensor, throttle is clean, valves on proper 0,25-0,20 gap, Mocool added on coolant, Champion spark plugs, no extra air inside the airbox.

Incredible. What is your tire and rim size?

8 hours ago, R_Blue said:

Incredible. What is your tire and rim size?

 

175/60/14

I have Toyo Proxes CF2 tires with Tecnomagnesio rims.

175/65/14 bridgestone turanza for me 

 

15 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

175/65/14 for me 

 

Why? You have +3,9 % difference from the stock 165/70R13

I'm residing on a hill and go down and climb it every day. Going downhill doesn't help with carburetors you know. All I can do is coasting small declines. My Forman is the same weight as your Fellys. 900Kg but I have LPG stuff installed. +50kg. I climb with two passengers in the car. Total extra weight excluding me is about 200kg. I climb about 250-300m elevation difference every day. Heavy traffic congestion every morning. Sometimes I stuck in the 5Km/h traffic like 40 minutes. Under these circumstances, what should I expect about fuel consumption? Gas or LPG?

 

I have 175/70 R13 Dunlop Touring SP1 s on 5.5" steel rims from VW Vento.

4 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Why?

More ground clearance better gas milage and less strain on suspension components
Turanza T005

23 minutes ago, R_Blue said:

should I expect about fuel consumption

INFINITE hahaha,

A lot, cant tell you how much, especially if you dont travel a great distance, could be worth analyzing that in litres/hour and not l/100km

Edited 27 October, 20214 yr by Thefeliciahacker

3 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

could be worth analyzing that in litres/hour and not l/100km

 

Why?

TC-6 has that function but only till you reach 40 km i think on the tachometer, then it measures ltr/100 km so it works only for traffic conditions.

16 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Why

 

4 hours ago, R_Blue said:

I stuck in the 5Km/h traffic like 40 minutes

That's why 

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

That's why 

 

Not allways the traffic is the same, many times even the same route varies (traffic condition).

For a guy which travels in a highway for hours what's wrong to count litres per 100 km?

 

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Not allways the traffic is the same, many times even the same route varies (traffic condition).

For a guy which travels in a highway for hours what's wrong to count litres per 100 km?

 

 

If your speed is down at walking pace as implied upthead, volume per unit mileage is meaningless; much better to quote litres per hour.

12 hours ago, KenONeill said:

If your speed is down at walking pace as implied upthead, volume per unit mileage is meaningless; much better to quote litres per hour.

 

In TC-6you can see the fuel consumption (liters per hour) from the start till the speed of 32 km, above this point shows liters/100km

From 0-32 km the numbers change every 1-2 seconds and so fast that if you try to pay attention to them the crash with the front car is guaranteed.

Unfortunately i haven't travel in highway those days so i have no picture of fuel consumption liter per hour at steady speed of 30 km and above this.

21 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

In TC-6you can see the fuel consumption (liters per hour) from the start till the speed of 32 km, above this point shows liters/100km

From 0-32 km the numbers change every 1-2 seconds

TC-6 is a cool and very useful upgrade. 👍

1 hour ago, R_Blue said:

TC-6 is a cool and very useful upgrade

 

Was a great mistake that i didn't bought it with the car as extra back at 2000, years latter when i bought it from SP-EL with the installing cost from the electrician was a very expensive upgrade.

Nevertheless i feel now more ''hi-tech" with that LCD screen on the dashboard. 😜

On 29/10/2021 at 12:03, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Nevertheless i feel now more ''hi-tech" with that LCD screen on the dashboard. 😜

You can find other cars with TC-6 but I think what really makes your car unique is this:

Your own creation. There is no other car with this special instrument panel.

 

It makes me remember this:

2 hours ago, R_Blue said:

 

It makes me remember this:

 

 

 

Hi-Tec

 

😹

18 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Hi-Tec

 

😹

Sir, that's overkill!

Nice