3 minutes ago, Routemaster1461 said:

 

Not if you go for an Edition like we have. Editions have metallic at no cost (no reduction for 'standard' colours) so Velvet Red is only £300. As my wife will not accept a black, silver or grey car as she considers them boring, we are effectively limited to blue and red. So Velvet Red it is.

 

 

That's interesting, I didn't know that. That said, if I could afford an Edition I'd probably have bought an XC40 instead. The point is that even a poverty spec Ateca has metallic paint at no cost. It wipes out the small difference in cost between two cars of comparable spec. Whichever way you cut it, charging that much extra for paint is pulling your pants down.

Just checked on the Ateca brochure. Unless I've read it wrong, all colours including Velvet Red are considered standard in the price of the car. All colours apart from 3 are only available on 4 of 6 trim levels, missing FR and FRS spec. Velvet Red standard price on all 6 trim levels.

19 minutes ago, Routemaster1461 said:

Just checked on the Ateca brochure. Unless I've read it wrong, all colours including Velvet Red are considered standard in the price of the car. All colours apart from 3 are only available on 4 of 6 trim levels, missing FR and FRS spec. Velvet Red standard price on all 6 trim levels.

Crazy, isn't it. And Skoda charge £595 and £975 for the same colours. 

It can't cost much more for a manufacturer to use metallic rather than a non-metallic. It's not like the old days where metallic paints had to have an extra clear coat. So metallic paint is probably pure profit for manufacturer and dealer. It probably won't be free though. I reckon they will just increase the base price of the car to compensate and offset the 'extra' cost of Velvet Red against the 'cheaper' non-metallic.

Edited 14 August, 20214 yr by Routemaster1461

It is not only Velvet Red with the Ateca and the Solid, Metallic or Specials. all showing at 'No Cost'. 

Everything different cost only a few Euro / Yen / Dollar / GBP in manufacturing and within the VW Group, but what is charged by VW, Audi, Skoda or SEAT can make no sense.  Being charged Extra cost just for Enabling functions on a vehicle that you are buying and has the software / hardware already on the vehicle.

What we do know is that the RRP's needed not reflect what you pay but currently supply is not as high as demand.

Edited 14 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

8 hours ago, Routemaster1461 said:

 

Bear in mind that some salesmen will tell you untruths to prevent you going elsewhere. In particular a Seat salesman, when I told him that I was looking at VW group cars, told me that Skodas do not have a 5 star NCAP rating.

Reminds me of a FIAT dealer in the '60s who was swearing blind to my parents that a FIAT 124 was FWD. He didn't like me asking what the prop shaft under the car was for in that case!

On 13/08/2021 at 15:56, AMcK said:

My order history to date is:

 

Order placed with dealer 28th April (Karoq SE Drive 1.5 DSG with heated front seats, heated windscreen, space saver wheel and rear side airbags)

Dealer estimated build date as mid-July.

Skoda UK email confirmed order on 10th May

Skoda UK email 9th August advising car off production line.

Dealer email 11th August advising they expect car to be with them next week.

 

The dealer has kept in touch by email approx every 2 weeks advising of its progress.

Email from dealer yesterday (18th) that they have vehicle (confirmed by Skoda UK today), however issue of over 2-year warranty extension as someone there didn't action it to be 'attached' to the car. Dealer offered a 3-year warranty extension of their own with a relatively small cost saving, but I declined. Watch this space!

 

@AMcK

The 2 year Extension to the Manufacturers Warranty can be started as long as the Car has not been First Registered in the UK.

 

No need to take anything other than what you want.  New car with 5 year warranty.   The Dealership Staff must know that.

 

THEIR ERROR, SO IF THEY CAN NOT ACTION IT NOW, THEY NEED TO SUCK IT UP AND COVER THE FULL COST OF THE WARRANTY YOU WANT.

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Has it been first registered already?

 

Check with Skoda UK Customer Services to see if the Dealership staff are trying it on, or if things have changed now, as in this year.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444006-factory-extended-warranty-new-car-already-built

 

Edited 19 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

Cars could be deregistered then registered again in the past.

I ordered a company lease mondeo some years ago and instead of the normal 4 to 5 months for it to be built, it was supplied from stock with all the options and colour I had picked almost straight away. As my existing car still had over 3 months lease left before return I could not take it at that time. It would have been a Y reg, but was deregistered and stored for 12 weeks and eventually registered again as a 51 reg.

2 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

@AMcK

The 2 year Extension to the Manufacturers Warranty can be started as long as the Car has not been First Registered in the UK.

 

No need to take anything other than what you want.  New car with 5 year warranty.   The Dealership Staff must know that.

 

THEIR ERROR, SO IF THEY CAN NOT ACTION IT NOW, THEY NEED TO SUCK IT UP AND COVER THE FULL COST OF THE WARRANTY YOU WANT.

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Has it been first registered already?

 

Check with Skoda UK Customer Services to see if the Dealership staff are trying it on, or if things have changed now, as in this year.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444006-factory-extended-warranty-new-car-already-built

 

It transpires that the car has been registered with me as Keeper. It probably won't come as a surprise to learn the dealership is the same organisation as that mentioned in the link you provided.

So Bristol Street Motors have the VED on the car & a Registration Number?

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When do you get the car?

13 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

So Bristol Street Motors have the VED on the car & a Registration Number?

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When do you get the car?

Yes they have the VED and the Reg. No..

 

They've said the car will be ready for collection  from Saturday 21st. However, I've said until the extended warranty issue is resolved to my satisfaction I won't be collecting it. 

Well, Skoda chat confirmed that although my car had a build week of 33, it is delayed. They dont know by how much. So I think I should just wait a couple of weeks and contact the dealer then. 

 

Although the Skoda chat are very helpful, they seem to think that the dealers have more information - not sure how true that is. I guess they just pull up the same system and look at the status code! 

Spoke with Skoda UK Customer Services today, who in turn spoke with the Sales Support Team while I was on hold, and they advised that my car does in fact have the factory 5-year warranty!! Make of that what you will. Customer Services were going to contact the dealer to put them straight.

 

Had planned to collect the car tomorrow, but have decided to delay until next week, by which time I may have calmed down.

16 hours ago, Seymansey said:

Although the Skoda chat are very helpful, they seem to think that the dealers have more information

Yes, I have had the same sort of conversation recently.

His initial response was that my car was ‘in the system to be built at the end of May’ and that I should speak to the dealer for more updates.

When I pointed out that SUK are the importers and the dealers are merely the sales arm of the process my chatty buddy then went off and consulted with someone else.

The result?

My car had in fact been built, but was ‘awaiting parts’.

When I asked where the vehicle was physically, he would not be drawn, even after I said that I had heard they may be parked in fields.

Now... I am not overly bothered that it could be sat in a field, cars spend the vast majority of their life just sat around and I doubt they are aware of their surroundings.

I will however be paying close attention to battery performance as I have read that there can be issues with batteries that do not get a regular charge, especially when the cars are first delivered.

 

Yes my car built in around March 2020 and bought from the showroom in August 2020 had a deceased battery which caused two call outs to AA in first week and then was replaced. No other issues to date over the year I have had it though, apart from replacing the awful wipers which screeched on every wipe both front and rear.

Edited 21 August, 20214 yr by kenfowler3966

After reading the potential issues regarding extended warranty, I contacted our dealer, who has confirmed that our warranty is sorted. Also they added that the car, scheduled for w/c 12 July, is built, but is presumably in a queue for missing chips.

Edited 21 August, 20214 yr by Routemaster1461

I'm not too concerned about how long my new motor might be stood in the open awaiting 'chips' but what does bother me is 'where do these chips live in the motor'?

 

That is, if they're buried deep in the dash then I assume the motors are stood with much of the interior trim missing?

 

I hate having dealers doing serious repairs that require much of the interior trim removing / refitting 'cause It never goes back right!

34 minutes ago, Berisford said:

I hate having dealers doing serious repairs that require much of the interior trim removing / refitting 'cause It never goes back right!

TBH, I think the vehicles are still at the factory.

Best think again and maybe read the Press Releases and articles.

Vehicles are bunkered just as tens of thousands were while waiting for the WLTP certification, where some sat over a winter.

 

At least Factory Trained Technicians / Fitters will be completing the production not some Dealership Employees as you can get in the UK.

 

They say 40,000 waiting and when it is nearing 50,000 shifts at the factory have to be reduced.

 

https://www.world-today-news.com/skoda-auto-has-started-storing-cars-at-the-airport-that-it-cannot-complete-thousands-of-chips-are-missing

 

Edited 21 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

On 19/08/2021 at 19:12, kenfowler3966 said:

Cars could be deregistered then registered again in the past.

I ordered a company lease mondeo some years ago and instead of the normal 4 to 5 months for it to be built, it was supplied from stock with all the options and colour I had picked almost straight away. As my existing car still had over 3 months lease left before return I could not take it at that time. It would have been a Y reg, but was deregistered and stored for 12 weeks and eventually registered again as a 51 reg.

It is still possible for a dealer that registers a car to de-register it within 7 working days (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v996-application-for-de-registration) . Thankfully it didn't come to that.

In 2008 I ordered a car which I specifically asked to be delivered with a 58 plate. I don't know why the dealer didn't want to honour this (the excuse was that the manufacturer insisted, presumably to meet targets and it wouldn't affect the residual value ?????) and the actually quoted me the 08 plate registration. I basically refused to go through with the purchase, eventually they agreed to change it and was duly delivered with the agreed 58 plate. So I assume they had to unregister the car as above and re-register it. Didn't deal with that agent again.

This is quite normal to shift cars. Our Karoq is a 20 reg and was new two weeks before the change to 70 reg with a huge discount and first 3 months lease payments  free to allow the dealer to meet sales targets in a slow month.

Discounts and free lease payments disappeared before the registration change.

Our car will be worth less at change time but the saving on new cost allowing for depreciation should be twice or more the difference in px value.

Edited 22 August, 20214 yr by kenfowler3966

1 hour ago, kenfowler3966 said:

This is quite normal to shift cars. Our Karoq is a 20 reg and was new two weeks before the change to 70 reg with a huge discount and first 3 months lease payments  free to allow the dealer to meet sales targets in a slow month.

Discounts and free lease payments disappeared before the registration change.

Our car will be worth less at change time but the saving on new cost allowing for depreciation should be twice or more the difference in px value.

 

Sorry, I should clarify. The car was not a stock car, it was a factory built with optional extras ( never mind that the salesman was useless and managed to get it built with esp rather than the requested cruise control) and was specifically requested for 58 delivery. Strangely they wouldn't let me have a test drive until after I had placed an order (???)

2 hours ago, Routemaster1461 said:

 

Strangely they wouldn't let me have a test drive until after I had placed an order (???)

A local VW dealer I visited recently with the intention of buying a Passat estate wouldn’t let me ‘take a leak’ in their toilets and despite relenting that was enough for the sale to be lost - no test drive until order placed would have warranted walking out without any discussion for me………….