Last night I had the first real Satnav niggle in my four months of being a Superb'er.

 

Amundsen, although I imagine the issue would be across the board.

 

I was heading into a city centre last night to an area I don't know at all, when I left from home the Satnav advised me that the route includes 'time restricted' roads. I was fine with that, I've had it say that before and all I was met with was a bus lane next to me that you could not use at certain times. It was irrelevant as I was in the car lane on the same road.

 

Last night was problematic however, as while in the city centre I was instructed to take a right turn, at which point I see the entry signs onto the road making it abunduntly clear that it was only for bus and taxi use at all times.

 

Issue #1 then. The satnav is smart enough to know it is a restricted road, but not to know I am not allowed on it at ANY time.

 

I therefore drove past it expecting that, as is usual, it would recalculate its route and take me down a street I am actually allowed on. Instead however I got....

 

Issue #2. I spent the next mile at around 5 seperate roundabouts being told to take the exit that would take me straight back to the bus/taxi only route. I could see on the map it was trying to take me back there. 

 

It was clearly trying to take me back via the quickest route, but it did not offer an alternative.

 

I did eventually pull up and switch to Google maps satnav via Android Auto, which got me where I was going. This itself had a problem as something was causing it to display the map incorrectly (North upwards I suspect) which I have never seen in the car before and was not obvious how to correct it, especially while under the obvious duress of busy city driving. Can you imagine how bizarre it was being told a direction while my position on the map was going in another direction!?

 

Has anyone else had the issue I've described of being taken to a road you can't go down and any tips on how to avoid it being included in the route? There seems nothing immediately obvious as a menu setting from perusing the manual. I don't recall the satnav giving me the option before setting off of declining the route either, it was that route or no route at all.

Edited 5 November, 20214 yr by Gax

Tap the Google compass to change the driving orientation. 👍

I was looking for that as that works on the phone, but on the car screen using AA there is no compass, or at least not during route guidance.

 

Unless I needed to cancel the route first and then reset it, then choose the route again.

 

Thanks, will see if the compass does appear pre-guidance.

For issue one, any satnav is only as good as the data it has. So clearly it has incorrect data about this road. It’s possible that the status of the road has changed fairly recently, and hasn’t made it into an update yet.
 

But every satnav system has some mistakes in it. The street I live on became a cul-de-sac 10 years ago. Google Maps still insists I should drive through the block wall built at the end of it. Both the Skoda map and Apple Maps display it correctly. 
 

For issue two, that’s annoying. It should be smart enough to recalculate a different route if you obviously veer off the suggested one. For all it knows, there could be road works or a flaming bus crash blocking the road. 

26 minutes ago, GregorSamsa said:

For issue one, any satnav is only as good as the data it has. So clearly it has incorrect data about this road. It’s possible that the status of the road has changed fairly recently, and hasn’t made it into an update yet.
 

But every satnav system has some mistakes in it. The street I live on became a cul-de-sac 10 years ago. Google Maps still insists I should drive through the block wall built at the end of it. Both the Skoda map and Apple Maps display it correctly. 
 

For issue two, that’s annoying. It should be smart enough to recalculate a different route if you obviously veer off the suggested one. For all it knows, there could be road works or a flaming bus crash blocking the road. 

 

Good points. I do confess I don't know in full the part of the city I was in for navigating it by car, but I do know the area and it has always been heavily in favour of public transport routes, and I do believe the road in question has more than likely been 'no cars' for a long long time, i.e. years and years.

 

The problem really is that the satnav seems not to be able to differentiate between a restricted road that you can drive on at certain times (i.e. many bus lanes can be used for example 7pm to 7am) and roads with permanent restrictions. If we could select an option to avoid such roads altogether it would be useful, although that of course would remove the ability to navigate to roads that truly have only time-restricted routes, and thus could end up using a longer route.

 

To be honest it's only about the second time I've had to switch to AA to complete a journey, so it isn't a biggie, but it would be good if there were an option to not use restricted roads. 

 

 

9 hours ago, Gax said:

I was looking for that as that works on the phone, but on the car screen using AA there is no compass, or at least not during route guidance.

I've been using AA today and checked out what you said.

The solution is simple - just touch the screen and the compass and zoom arrows appear.

Something to remember for next time. 👍

I've had many a ****nav suggest I drive the wrong way up a one way/restricted road, and that's with many flavours of satnav/car system. Indeed I live near a road that has changed twice, the first change being all but ignored, and becoming more dangerous (and it was poor already) but because of the motorists saying 'well my (out of date) ****nav says it's OK' and 'what no entry sign' it was swapped back - and so now locals are suffering again because of out of townies trying to park for free, saving all of a quid!

I use satnav as a guide (as you clearly did) but really no amount of re-routing with an out of date map database can really work unless you've driven well away, to come in from another direction that does have a legal route.

There is no way even waze can keep up with changes, and that's crowd sourced data - I think Waze only react quickly to speedcam and RTC's as that looks good.

I do correct any map errors I see on OSM data when I see stuff that is wrong/new but that really does take time to filter through.

9 hours ago, NJRJ said:

There is no way even waze can keep up with changes, and that's crowd sourced data -

I think Waze only react quickly to speedcam and RTC's as that looks good.

 

how how does Waze can know about issue, have you sent a report?
https://support.google.com/waze/answer/6262574?hl=en#zippy=%2Cmap-issue

 

1 hour ago, MartiniB said:

 

how how does Waze can know about issue, have you sent a report?
https://support.google.com/waze/answer/6262574?hl=en#zippy=%2Cmap-issue

 

You missed my last sentence that says I report errors.

@NJRJ

Sorry, lost in translation 😞

English isn't my tongue

On 06/11/2021 at 10:48, MartiniB said:

@NJRJ

Sorry, lost in translation 😞

English isn't my tongue

No problem, you post much better stuff than me!

I won't create an all-new topic just to add this, but driving in another town on Saturday and NOT using Satnav (I repeat NOT using Satnav!) and intentionally heading towards a brand new road that opened to much fanfare last week, the car suddenly chipped in to say something along the lines of 'Warning, a road ahead is being closed shortly'.

 

It was incorrect as the road in fact opened just days ago, but that's the first time I have ever had a car issue me with an alert about a road when I haven't even activated the satnav that day.

 

I haven't seen anything remotely related to this anywhere in any menu settings, so perhaps the Skoda Connect service can send push notifications to you about what are deemed critical bits of information (sourced via a third party presumably, with incorrect information in this instance).

I had Waze try to take me through two road closures in the same journey recently so even that's not immune to these sorts of problems. Annoyingly, you can only report closures through the Waze website, not the app, and while you are actually at the location so it's impossible while driving.

53 minutes ago, D402 said:

not the app, and while you are actually at the location so it's impossible while driving.

 

not true, option [Closure] is present, but it's little bit tricky to use while driving

On 05/11/2021 at 09:49, GregorSamsa said:

For issue one, any satnav is only as good as the data it has. So clearly it has incorrect data about this road. It’s possible that the status of the road has changed fairly recently, and hasn’t made it into an update yet.
 

But every satnav system has some mistakes in it. The street I live on became a cul-de-sac 10 years ago. Google Maps still insists I should drive through the block wall built at the end of it. Both the Skoda map and Apple Maps display it correctly. 
 

For issue two, that’s annoying. It should be smart enough to recalculate a different route if you obviously veer off the suggested one. For all it knows, there could be road works or a flaming bus crash blocking the road. 

Google need to spend a bit on updating their maps, we recently bought a new house (built in 2009), and the whole road has not yet been added, so maps at least 12 years out of date.

 

I suspect they just add what is notified, and have never gone back to validate their first map was correct when they started using it.

 

On 08/11/2021 at 10:27, MartiniB said:

 

not true, option [Closure] is present, but it's little bit tricky to use while driving

You're right, I was using Waze via Android Auto and the Closure button doesn't appear there.