How about this horror story? This was uploaded to YouTube 4 days ago.

 

 

Edited 16 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

Tesla making wildly inaccurate claims? Oh dear 🤥

This video is new today.

 

Over $60K to replace an untouched undamaged battery pack on a car less than 1 year old that cost less than that to buy!!! 😯

 

All because of a couple of minor scratches on the sheet steel battery protection underguard.

 

That is one salvage that I would like to buy!

 

Actually it isn't the newer the salvage the more it will depreciate in your ownership if you keep it, best to sell on ASAP.

 

And people wonder why EV insurance is going through the roof!

Hyundai could turn out a pick-up or a van out of these cyber looking cars.

 

I have yet to see one of these with passengers in the back or even a passenger in the front, but that is pretty common for many big cars that are for occasional transport for more than a driver. Lots of big battery and heavy cars truck about just as rep mobiles or commuter transportation.

There is a reason for them being a little larger than your mini as they are both more comfortable and safer if you are spending a large part of your day behind the wheel as part of your daily job or doing longer journeys on a regular basis, of course, just plain and simple you need the extra space to accommodate the driver purely on safety grounds only. A comfortable driver is a lot safer one than one who is so cramped for space that they cannot operate the controls safely. I don't call that particular Hyundai a big car at all, in fact cars like that I consider to be a liability for any passengers in the back as there is hardly any crumple zone left. 

Edited 17 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

1 hour ago, Rooted said:

Hyundai could turn out a pick-up or a van out of these cyber looking cars.

 

I have yet to see one of these with passengers in the back or even a passenger in the front, but that is pretty common for many big cars that are for occasional transport for more than a driver. Lots of big battery and heavy cars truck about just as rep mobiles or commuter transportation.

 

 

I don't like the designed in side impact appearance of the new Hyundais?

17 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

 

I don't like the designed in side impact appearance of the new Hyundais?

Nor me either, it kind of reminds me of this ugly looking car as well.

Edited 17 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

^^^ That dead ugly car is genius and very comfy and efficient and i was going to get one and looked at a few but prices were staying high in the spec i wanted.

Fugly matters not a jot as far as i am concerned, they are transport. 

 

@Graham ButcherAs far as bigger being more comfortable and suited to longer days that is questionable.

No way would i have an uncomfortable car or an uncomfortable EV if going to be charging and sitting in a car and i have driven many many cars and EV,s of all sizes.

Until this week i had the BMW 520 again a did a few long days in it and it certainly was not as comfortable as the MINI was and i can be in the MINI for many hours. 

Edited 17 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

35 minutes ago, Rooted said:

^^^ That dead ugly car is genius and very comfy and efficient and i was going to get one and looked at a few but prices were staying high in the spec i wanted.

Fugly matters not a jot as far as i am concerned, they are transport. 

 

@Graham ButcherAs far as bigger being more comfortable and suited to longer days that is questionable.

No way would i have an uncomfortable car or an uncomfortable EV if going to be charging and sitting in a car and i have driven many many cars and EV,s of all sizes.

Until this week i had the BMW 520 again a did a few long days in it and it certainly was not as comfortable as the MINI was and i can be in the MINI for many hours. 

The mini is clearly the car that fits you the best, I doubt I'd fit in one though being tall and a 5xl with size 15 clown feet 😂 personally, I like you view a car as transport and as long the inside is pleasant, I don't care about the outside, I can't see it from the drivers seat 😉

Edited 17 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

Not many your size i see driving the big heavy EV,s about be them male, female or non committed.

 

This last few week i have seen more Small Taxi,s than ever before, Focus, Capture's & even an Audi A3 which surprised me. 

15 minutes ago, Rooted said:

Not many your size i see driving the big heavy EV,s about be them male, female or non committed.

 

This last few week i have seen more Small Taxi,s than ever before, Focus, Capture's & even an Audi A3 which surprised me. 

 

I have seen a private hire Toyota Yaris, How it takes a family to an airport i have no idea

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

The mini is clearly the car that fits you the best, I doubt I'd fit in one though being tall and a 5xl with size 15 clown feet 😂

 

You could fit in and drive an original Mini and be able to operate all the controls safely, let alone the current one unworthy of its name and getting more so.

 

That said you would have had more space around your knees, elbows etc in the original than many new cars, maybe even your Superb, thats how bad things have got. A passenger in an original Mini, even one your size could reach his legs across and operate the controls at the same time as the driver.

2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Nor me either, it kind of reminds me of this ugly looking car as well.

As originally designed (QV upthread) Citroen "aerobumps" were designed to protect against car park door scratches, not as a meaningful side impact structure as you seem to believe based on this posting.

7 minutes ago, Paws4Thot said:

As originally designed (QV upthread) Citroen "aerobumps" were designed to protect against car park door scratches, not as a meaningful side impact structure as you seem to believe based on this posting.

 

I think @Graham Butcher was referring to aesthetics not practicality

1 hour ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

I think @Graham Butcher was referring to aesthetics not practicality

Correct, I think all cars now have side impact beams inside their doors. 

4 hours ago, Rooted said:

Not many your size i see driving the big heavy EV,s about be them male, female or non committed.

 

This last few week i have seen more Small Taxi,s than ever before, Focus, Capture's & even an Audi A3 which surprised me. 

I expect the taxi's are going smaller then usual as the new cars like Superb's are either petrol or petrol PHEV, diesels are either ceased production or are very limited supply these days. I suspect that my car was a private hire car for the last year and half prior to me buying it, as it did 120,000 miles in that time and I think it was sold while it still retained some reasonable value.

3 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

You could fit in and drive an original Mini and be able to operate all the controls safely, let alone the current one unworthy of its name and getting more so.

 

That said you would have had more space around your knees, elbows etc in the original than many new cars, maybe even your Superb, thats how bad things have got. A passenger in an original Mini, even one your size could reach his legs across and operate the controls at the same time as the driver.

When I was young and skinny as a rake, I did indeed drive a few minis and your right, there was a lot of leg room in the front due to the dash unlike todays cars which extend into the car. Also the mini's steering wheel had less of a rake on them as the column was almost upright IIRC.

Edited 17 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

I think I'll just leave this here and wish everyone a very happy Christmas.

 

On 17/12/2023 at 13:51, Stonekeeper said:

 

I have seen a private hire Toyota Yaris, How it takes a family to an airport i have no idea

Following on, the taxi theme briefly, today I had to take SIL's Toyota Yaris to get her tyre replaced for her (she was at work in London), after she ran into a pothole last night and split the side wall on the O/S front I had to inflate a bit first, I had to be a real contortionist to squeeze myself into the driver's seat. The steering wheel height and reach was not sufficient to allow me to get my leg under it, I had push the seat all the way back and lower it to the floor and sort of slide myself sidewise into the car and still struggled to get my leg upright enough to be able to drive it.  Totally impossible to rest me left foot anywhere without fouling the clutch pedal, so had to hover my foot above the clutch. So how on earth they could use one as a private hire car baffles me. I also saw a Toyota C-HR today as registered taxi in the city, WTF 😬

 

Anyway, I was never so glad to back into my Superb then I was after that experience in the Yaris, noisy, cramped, uncomfortable and so unrefined and the radio was total crap. Makes you appreciate the better refinement on comfort of the Skoda's after that, it felt like I was riding on an air cushion, driving mine, chalk and cheese.

Edited 19 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

The UK Government are giving several million squid of tax payers money out to the chosen few businesses to further research vehicle to grid.

It is not like the manufacturers have not done that already i suppose.   More duplication and opportunities for photo ops, & Ministers & MP,s to get out and about.

Look like they are doing something.

 

Obviously mention of a Renault that will be on sale in 2025 is important, 

forget those that are older used EV,s and currently on sale ones with the 'Bright idea'. 

 

Britain is at the forefront of technology or far behind the curve, or is that Government Ministers and Secretaries of State and their Spin Doctors!

 

 

 

Edited 20 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

3 hours ago, Rooted said:

The UK Government are giving several million squid of tax payers money out to the chosen few businesses to further research vehicle to grid.

It is not like the manufacturers have not done that already i suppose.   More duplication and opportunities for photo ops, & Ministers & MP,s to get out and about.

Look like they are doing something.

Obviously mention of a Renault that will be on sale in 2025 is important, 

forget those that are older used EV,

s and currently on sale ones with the 'Bright idea'. 

Britain is at the forefront of technology or far behind the curve, or is that Government Ministers and Secretaries of State and their Spin Doctors!

 

 

 

 

I would only consider using my car battery for vehicle to grid at those times, like we have had a of for the last few days with Octopus paying us back many many pence per kWh, as each time one charges and discharges one takes a small bit of life out of the battery, smae as running an ICE engine, putting hours on the run clock and moving it close to servicing or scrapping.

 

So for the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries then possibly use V2G if the price was right, 50p or a £1 or more per kWh and probably no way for the lithium battery in the Zoe despite its excellent protective BMS. 

 

There is talk of Renault 5 and its siblings being LFP with the high performance or long range options being still lithium and even talk of Sodium ion batteries making an appearance, good for the cold climate version.  Some cars make get a mixture of batteries it has been muted.

 

I am game if the price is right and battery damage very small.

 

If proof that main stream media are actually feeding us a load of BS designed to fit the narrative that TPTB around the world, then this might well be that proof. Did anybody actually know or were aware of the 2 houses that were destroyed by fire in New Zealand, this week?

 

The eyewitness reports it was started by a Hybrid car being charged in the garage.

 

 

Then a couple of days later, the media tried to divert the blame from the car to claiming that the fire did not start in the garage, the car was not the cause and the car was not even in the garage at the time and the fire started at the rear of the house, as claimed by the fire dept.

 

This second video, shot by a neighbour, completely destroys that theory and clearly shows that there is a definite cover-up for fires that were either caused, or believed to have been caused by an electric car. This narrative was rushed out to distract public attention from electric cars being a risk.

 

If electric cars are actually as safe as the authorities around the world are claiming, then why is this particular fire clearly being green washed? 

 

Oh, and please, don't shoot the messenger, I'm just asking that's all. 

 

 

The above video is by a click batting loon.

 

Actual facts are:-

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/coromandel-luxury-bach-fire-ev-not-to-blame-for-cooks-beach-home-blaze/4LKGZP7MAVCLXFSOGXKV5KWVEU/

 

......Social media posts and a media outlet then reported a witness as saying the fire had been started by an EV (electric vehicle) in the home’s garage.  But Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Fenz) investigator Ed Hopping said that was not the case.  “The investigation is still ongoing... but I’m comfortable to put it out there in the world that the fire wasn’t a result of the battery in the car failing,” Hopping said.  

 

He said the fire started within the home, while the car was parked outside the garage and was not plugged in for charging at the time.  It’s just important to put out there that hybrid cars... aren’t that vulnerable to fires,” Hopping said.  “And then in this instance, the car wasn’t plugged in and wasn’t inside the garage or the structure.”

 

Another Youtube maligned fantasy piece of crap... 

Edited 20 December, 20232 yr by lol-lol

I had my doubts as soon as I clicked on the first video though my first thought was NZ at the height of summer so possibly a barbecue. Sorry for the stereotyping if there's any Kiwis reading

 

2 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

I would only consider using my car battery for vehicle to grid at those times, like we have had a of for the last few days with Octopus paying us back many many pence per kWh, as each time one charges and discharges one takes a small bit of life out of the battery, smae as running an ICE engine, putting hours on the run clock and moving it close to servicing or scrapping.

 

So for the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries then possibly use V2G if the price was right, 50p or a £1 or more per kWh and probably no way for the lithium battery in the Zoe despite its excellent protective BMS. 

 

There is talk of Renault 5 and its siblings being LFP with the high performance or long range options being still lithium and even talk of Sodium ion batteries making an appearance, good for the cold climate version.  Some cars make get a mixture of batteries it has been muted.

 

I am game if the price is right and battery damage very small.

 

 

 

Could be good for those who want a full battery every morning.

 

It must be better for the battery to be charged from low capacity than from half full.

 

Plug it in when you come home the grid takes back the 50% not used at peak time, paying you more than you paid for it, then fully charges it for morning?