46 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Privileged or hard working and intelligent?

 

Implying that I and others aren't then, a bit disrespectful then aren't you. Fact is there are not that many high paid jobs around.

21 minutes ago, skomaz said:

 

Privileged.

 

Good to hear you back !  Any road up, on the car theme (Apparently EVs score a higher percentage of 5 star awards than ICE cars)  

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/best/worst-euro-ncap-ratings/#:~:text=Suzuki Swift – three stars&text=But there's also no getting,Child Occupant%3A 65 per cent

 

Suzuki Swift – three stars  - According to Euro NCAP, this is the least safe car it tested in 2024

 

 But there’s also no getting away from the fact that if you sort the 2024 test scores in order of rating, the Suzuki Swift has the lowest of the lot.

Here are the Suzuki Swift’s individual safety scores:

• Adult Occupant: 67 per cent
• Child Occupant: 65 per cent
• Vulnerable Road Users: 76 per cent
• Safety Assist: 62 per cent

It’s not the greatest looking set of stats, is it – especially the occupant scores. Judging by the Euro NCAP report, your legs are in for a hard time if you’re an adult, and there are far too many poor and marginal ratings in the child protection section for our liking. In addition, the eCall system doesn’t meet the test body’s standards. Hmm.

 

22 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Implying that I and others aren't then, a bit disrespectful then aren't you. Fact is there are not that many high paid jobs around.

 

No intention of that, but those who have found their way in to higher paid jobs have done so with hard work and the blessing of a good brain.

I have fought all my live for a meritocracy rather than one of privilege which has been a disease of the UK for far too long,

Private schools, Masonic membership giving a lifetime of preferential treatment I despise. 

 

10 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

No intention of that, but those who have found their way in to higher paid jobs have done so with hard work and the blessing of a good brain.

I have fought all my live for a meritocracy rather than one of privilege which has been a disease of the UK for far too long,

Private schools, Masonic membership giving a lifetime of preferential treatment I despise. 

 

If only that was true, many of those jobs are achieved by actually knowing the right people, or having the right connections and also of course by brown nosing and dumping on others by riding the shirt tails of others and when the opportunity arises plunging the knife in their backs.

 

I also don't deny that some do get their jobs exactly how you describe, but I suspect that most are in the former group of people.

48 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Good to hear you back !  Any road up, on the car theme (Apparently EVs score a higher percentage of 5 star awards than ICE cars)  

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/best/worst-euro-ncap-ratings/#:~:text=Suzuki Swift – three stars&text=But there's also no getting,Child Occupant%3A 65 per cent

 

Hmm, also very interesting that the Renault Zoe back in 2013 was awarded 5 stars but in 2021 it got rating of 0, and also interesting that VW Passat and the Skoda Superb also get a 5star rating.

20 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Hmm, also very interesting that the Renault Zoe back in 2013 was awarded 5 stars but in 2021 it got rating of 0, and also interesting that VW Passat and the Skoda Superb also get a 5star rating.

 

Indeed. Passat, and by relationship the Superb, just rated as the best safe car by Thatcham.

Let's hope these brands managed to survive. Latest is VW selling some of its factories to the Chinese such is their economic woe.

 

Edited 30 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

Using the Scenic battery pack. the Filante.........  

 

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2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

If only that was true, many of those jobs are achieved by actually knowing the right people, or having the right connections and also of course by brown nosing and dumping on others by riding the shirt tails of others and when the opportunity arises plunging the knife in their backs.

 

I also don't deny that some do get their jobs exactly how you describe, but I suspect that most are in the former group of people.

 

Actually two other factors in getting a high paid job as well as hard work and intelligence is sheer luck being in the right place at the right time and secondly, I suppose related to that point of being lucky in the industry one is in.

 

My current job I replaced a guy who decided to start his own business. My niche of customs consultancy is rare so I wad able to name a good salary, take it or leave it. My predecessor went on to make £12m in 12 years so well done him.

 

The other lucky occurrence was BREXIT which quadrupled the size of the customs declarations industry and has made my work area billions over the last 4 years. So luck and more luck as well as hard work and smarts.

 

Not great for GB car makers all the tariff and export and mport issues but it's a bad wind that blows nobody some good.  At least we have relatively low tariffs on cars whether from Europe or China. The only thing that annoys me is the right hand drive models are built after the first batch of left hand ones usually. Left is right and right is wrong but too late to change now I suppose.

 

Edited 30 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

 

59 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

 

Would a manufacturer sacrifice battery longevity just to get the fastest charging crown?

 

More likely with a Chinese manufacturer than a European one ?

 

EV increasingly got better battery cell cooling probably but very high charge rates likely to kill off cells ?

 

 

 

As long as temperature is kept in check and then quickly reduced after charging the momentary high C shouldn't cause too much degradation.

Norway/Thailand Bjorn summaries:  Degradation = SoC extremes * heat * time.

Reduce the latter 2 variable should mean vastly reduced degradation.

 

There's a recent research saying regular high C regen have shown evidence being good for reducing battery degradation:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-024-01675-8

 

But at the start they talked about only having one cooling plate at the bottom. This sounds like uneven ageing waiting to happen, across every cell!

Leaf 30 and 40 are well known for this, where rapid charging causes the vertically stacked cells under the rear seat to stay hotter than flat cells along the bottom. So cells degrade faster with those hotter cells. For that design, I'd have preferred 2 thermal control plates, top and bottom.

 

For fire conscious, the presenters were guessing they left a lot of venting room along the centre and edge to allow venting. Edge clearance also said to be for impact protection.

4 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Hmm, also very interesting that the Renault Zoe back in 2013 was awarded 5 stars but in 2021 it got rating of 0, and also interesting that VW Passat and the Skoda Superb also get a 5star rating.

EuroKneeCAP arbitrarily take 1* off a car's rating for every extra "safety device" they require after its original test date.

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

 

 

 

Might put more off TESLA model Y unless they produce or sell cheaper.

Is the model Y only about 50k Euros in Euroland which is only £42k at current RoE.

 

I will bet the 92 kwh Techno Scenic will drop below £40k in April and avoid the £2k luxury car tax.

 

Edited 30 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

8 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

Good to hear you back !  Any road up, on the car theme (Apparently EVs score a higher percentage of 5 star awards than ICE cars)  

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/best/worst-euro-ncap-ratings/#:~:text=Suzuki Swift – three stars&text=But there's also no getting,Child Occupant%3A 65 per cent

 

Suzuki Swift – three stars  - According to Euro NCAP, this is the least safe car it tested in 2024

 

 But there’s also no getting away from the fact that if you sort the 2024 test scores in order of rating, the Suzuki Swift has the lowest of the lot.

Here are the Suzuki Swift’s individual safety scores:

• Adult Occupant: 67 per cent
• Child Occupant: 65 per cent
• Vulnerable Road Users: 76 per cent
• Safety Assist: 62 per cent

It’s not the greatest looking set of stats, is it – especially the occupant scores. Judging by the Euro NCAP report, your legs are in for a hard time if you’re an adult, and there are far too many poor and marginal ratings in the child protection section for our liking. In addition, the eCall system doesn’t meet the test body’s standards. Hmm.

 

 

Not back...   Your post just popped up and I couldn't resist given your apparent (lack of) intelligence led you to such a post.

 

Also I don't know what your infatuation with the new Suzuki Swift is.  I guess you're trying to have a personal dig but I really don't give a toss what you think or what the NCAP rating is...

 

PS.  Don't read too much into NCAP ratings as they tend to test base models that aren't to UK spec so are often lacking in safety equipment.

Edited 31 January, 20251 yr by skomaz

Handbags at dawn is it, lads? 

 

20 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Handbags at dawn is it, lads? 

 

 

He he...   It certainly looks like lol-lol is trying to swing his man bag Lee...🤣

7 hours ago, skomaz said:

 

He he...   It certainly looks like lol-lol is trying to swing his man bag Lee...🤣

 

Just concerned for a fellow Briskodian's well being. 

 

I was shocked when the Zoe got no stars in EuroNCAP and spotted it was down to the new safety systems that really marked down one of my cars down. 

Just so we are all aware of the the facets of modern EuroNCAP and can make informed choices and what we drive and with whom in the car. 

 

I would not drive with my daughters or granddaughter in the Zoe when I have the Scenic on the drive.  One daughter survived a major motorway pile up near you near at Woodall services, only the boot area was uncrumpled, soft tissues damage after being hit by a 32 tonne rigid truck and the a 7 series BMW.  That was is a Mk 4 Clio which has good crash scores and I got her a replacement one of those as she and I was so impressed with it.

 

Life is for living and being a motorcyclist, as well as a car driver, doing tens of thousand of miles a year, and fly quite a bit, I live with degrees of risk.

 

(RIP David Lynch).

  

   

Edited 31 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

It's an obvious point but it's important to note that Euro NCAP continuously make the test tougher. Something that got 5 stars a few years ago might not get any today.

Doesn't exactly mean the car isn't safe, just that cars are as a general rule getting ever safer.

Time that they were maybe marked down on Centre Screens / controls of small size symbols, out of reach of the finger tips of some drivers if seated for the steering wheel and pedals distance required.  So they need to lean forward to get even basic adjustments to features in the car.

 

As to the Bloggers / Vloggers and popular things like with Renault and one press to turn off the Speed Limit Warning.

Even Harry Metcalfe shows him turning off in new vehicles with it.

 

Stick to the Speed Limit.     Hopefully the cars ECU is logging how often the Lane Keep Assist / Speed Limit Warnings are being turned off and how often the Speed Limit is exceeded and the Location from GPS and time etc.

This can be used in the event of any Traffic Collisions or what used to be called accidents.

The EV,s will even know how often Traction is lost and the cars systems intervene.    That leads to 'Stop fitting unsuitable Tyres to UK Vehicles at the factory'. 

3 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

Just concerned for a fellow Briskodian's well being. 

 

 

Thanks for your concern but I've seen first hand how well the Swift performs in an accident and that the safety kit on the version I have exceeds that on the NCAP test car(s), so I have no worries about using it with any of my family in it.

 

I was also involved in a major motorway pile up on the M1 near London many years ago in a Mitsubishi Colt hatchback, well before NCAP was a thing, and it too performed well with none of the modern tech on-board, so again I have no real interest in what appear to be slightly flawed / skewed NCAP scores.

 

In fact I believe you've said similar comments in other posts elsewhere regarding the Renault 5 and your Zoe:

 

Edited 31 January, 20251 yr by skomaz

34 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Time that they were maybe marked down on Centre Screens / controls of small size symbols, out of reach of the finger tips of some drivers if seated for the steering wheel and pedals distance required.  So they need to lean forward to get even basic adjustments to features in the car.

 

As to the Bloggers / Vloggers and popular things like with Renault and one press to turn off the Speed Limit Warning.

Even Harry Metcalfe shows him turning off in new vehicles with it.

 

Stick to the Speed Limit.     Hopefully the cars ECU is logging how often the Lane Keep Assist / Speed Limit Warnings are being turned off and how often the Speed Limit is exceeded and the Location from GPS and time etc.

This can be used in the event of any Traffic Collisions or what used to be called accidents.

The EV,s will even know how often Traction is lost and the cars systems intervene.    That leads to 'Stop fitting unsuitable Tyres to UK Vehicles at the factory'. 

 

Not a problem for those of us who are left handed and with oddly long arms, can almost scratch by knee without bend, nearly.

 

Feel sorry for those lefties driving LHD car with trying to input instructions with their non dominant arm, must feel odd.

 

Edited 31 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

This may or not be important in the debate about ev fires but it's an observation from my limited ev experience so far.

 

I don't charge whilst asleep i unplug before going to bed.

 

Last night it was colder than this morning.

 

I unplugged the cable at 68%

 

This morning the pre cabin heater had been on for a departure time of 6:35, i believe it comes on half an hour earlier.

 

When i got in the car the GOM reported 70% charged.

 

If I had charged to 100% last night where would that 2% have gone?

 

Is that why we are told to drive off straight away if charging to 100%

 

If this has already been reported i apologise for missing it but at least it confirms it happens.

Who are the 'We being told to drive off straight away'?

 

Maybe drive away at 98% and not lose Regen Braking as you do in some BEV,s if at 100%.  

 

Pre heating for 30 minutes is a bit much.  Even in freezing weather 10 minutes is more than enough.

Is that the Cabin heating or Pre-heating the battery?

7 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Who are the 'We being told to drive off straight away'?

 

Maybe drive away at 98% and not lose Regen Braking as you do in some BEV,s if at 100%.  

 

Pre heating for 30 minutes is a bit much.  Even in freezing weather 10 minutes is more than enough.

Is that the Cabin heating or Pre-heating the battery?

 

Again apologies for my interpretation of "don't leave the car sat at 100%"

 

The 30 min is a guesstimate i don't see it turn on, i am in the house. It's set as a departure time.

 

No idea what is involved but my windows are clear and the car is warm inside

Edited 31 January, 20251 yr by Stonekeeper