2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

There are so many cars that a passenger with legs can not sit behind a driver even if they are not tall. The driver that is. But then many do not need to carry more than 2 adults. If you do need to have 3 full size people or 4 as passengers than you can look see what gets used as plated Taxis, Airport transport etc and they will usually have the space. This applied to EV,s as well. Sometimes just not the space for 4 and 4 suitcases and 4 carry on bags. For that maybe an estate car is the solution.

I have been looking at Citroen Berlingo's, Kia Sportage's and their fellow stable mates etc.

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

If it was not for Green Flash registration plated there are so many cars I would have no idea were BEV,s. BMW,s but BYD,s now and SUV,s in Black the I still can not see which manufacturer they are from.

The wall mounted charger is however a bit of a giveaway, even when there is no car plugged in or even there.

@Graham Butcher What are you talking about, there are no wall mounted chargers on motorways or roads as cars are driving about?

If in a car park/ charging hub it is easier to spot what a car is by the badges.

Many with a Cherished / Personal plate do not have a Green Flash on their plate though.

59 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham Butcher What are you talking about, there are no wall mounted chargers on motorways or roads as cars are driving about?

If in a car park/ charging hub it is easier to spot what a car is by the badges.

Many with a Cherished / Personal plate do not have a Green Flash on their plate though.

😁I was of course talking about peoples driveways on my estate which is a housing association run estate as in deed are all social estates here in Chelmsford, all council owned stock were transferred to HA's some years ago, as indeed many councils did some years ago in this area. So we have private estates which do have loads of EVs (predominantly Tesla's) and we have a Tesla depot with lots of super chargers located right the edge of a massive private estates.

5 hours ago, Ootohere said:

There are so many cars that a passenger with legs can not sit behind a driver even if they are not tall. The driver that is. But then many do not need to carry more than 2 adults.

True and they have the gall to call them family cars, which for many would only apply as long the kids were babies or toddlers in child seats or have their legs chopped off at the knee, or the whole family are short people. ☹️

Edited 5 July, 20255 Jul by Graham Butcher

Tesla have not done ones yet that are not looking like a Tesla.

It is the likes of the BYD, Xpeng, Omoda /Jaecoo, Skywell, Seres and others that need the badge read in many cases.

PS

There are families that are loan parents, or young families as in the children are young.

Family cars for hard working families with the need for just small cars. Cheaper and not something the weight of an elephant. Little people do exist. Diddy men and Diddy women with Diddy children. .

Edited 5 July, 20255 Jul by Ootohere

2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Tesla have not done ones yet that are not looking like a Tesla.

It is the likes of the BYD, Xpeng, Omoda /Jaecoo, Skywell, Seres and others that need the badge read in many cases.

PS

There are families that are loan parents, or young families as in the children are young.

Family cars for hard working families with the need for just small cars. Cheaper and not something the weight of an elephant. Little people do exist. Diddy men and Diddy women with Diddy children. .

Well given that the average family is considered by the ONS to be 2.37 persons of non descript size, I still say that car manufacturer's are shooting them selves in the foot when all they want to to is go for the smaller cars, given that the average male is 1.7m and female is 1.6m, that 2.37 people would not comfortably fit into many of the so called family cars.

5 ft 7 or even 5ft 9" Average man and 5ft 3" women. (162.4 cm) Lots shorter, lots taller.

The car manufacturers and importers will be listening to you surely. They will act accordingly.

An average person is just them, all on their Jack Jones. Like many a rep in a big car or a commercial driver or driving a company car..

There is loads of choices, just get what suits. If Big or Tall get the right motor car.

Be it families or just drivers, they are buying or leasing what they are wanting.

There are ones that are in the top 10 that can be had as ICE or BEV and just BEV.

Not big cars, city / medium sized.

Edited 5 July, 20255 Jul by Ootohere

31 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

5 ft 7 or even 5ft 9" Average man and 5ft 3" women. (162.4 cm) Lots shorter, lots taller.

The car manufacturers and importers will be listening to you surely. They will act accordingly.

An average person is just them, all on their Jack Jones. Like many a rep in a big car or a commercial driver or driving a company car..

There is loads of choices, just get what suits. If Big or Tall get the right motor car.

Be it families or just drivers, they are buying or leasing what they are wanting.

There are ones that are in the top 10 that can be had as ICE or BEV and just BEV.

Not big cars, city / medium sized.

Problem is just because a car looks to be large on the outside with its above average height. or its bulbus haunches etc, it does not mean that its interior space is large, its method of propulsion makes zero difference.

Edited 5 July, 20255 Jul by Graham Butcher

Honda Jazz.

A part from the well known reputation and a grandma/grandpa car, and it good build quality, it still is a car that cost around 10p a mile for fuel compared to an EV's 2p per mile for fuel.

0-62 in about 10S, compared to a cheaper hybrid Clio which is 9s or so.

Fugly. Doubt it handles as well as a Clio.

Think I'll pass until I have given up on life completely ands stop caring about the environment.

Edited 6 July, 20256 Jul by lol-lol

You ask the question in a search engine, car for tall drivers or tall people.

In there among the several lists is a Superb / Superb Estate and the Kodiaq, and all the big looking cars you might imagine. @Graham Butcher actually just because a car looks small does not mean there is not plenty room for a tall or large driver and passenger. Eg Toyota IQ. So as I know from usually having big cars and small ones. Get out there and get in and out them. Car Supermarkets.

Do not judge a book by it's cover. And if you see a Toyota iQ for sale, maybe try getting in just to see if I am talking nonsense. Maybe try getting in or out of a MINI Countryman or a SEAT Alhambra.

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Somebody tall could sit behind a tall passenger because no dash / glove compartment at passenger side and the seat slides forward. Or just 2 people and luggage was plenty space / room. Wide car, long doors, so parking spaces an issue for opening the doors. Disabled or Child parking handiest.

Edited 6 July, 20256 Jul by Ootohere

@Ootohere yes yes I know all of that and I'm well aware of there are some clever designs around and I'm actually driving about the cleverest car that there is in terms of interior space on offer hence why this is my 5th Superb in 20+ years.

I think you must have missed the crucial point where I said that I'm having trouble getting low enough to get in and out of it so things like you suggested are a complete no go for me apart from the Seat Alhambra, Ford Galaxy (same basic car) and hence the Berlingo etc, all of which are higher, which has to be the 1st priority. No good finding a car where a tall person could sit behind me if I can't get in and drive, then it's useless, right?

A jaguar XJ6. At over 5m long and wide is far bigger than my car, but the passenger compartment is smaller and lower despite the Jag always being a dream car of mine, is of zero use to me, hence my original comment that because it looks bigger, it might be still be useless.

The point is that some of the cars are also highly likely to be in the realm of the £100k bracket (BMW 7 series, Mercedes Benz S class etc) and again totally out of reach, even 2nd hand, as the insurance and running costs are going to be crippling.

So in short, I have been doing the rounds of the garages trying various cars, head for thinking, and have been doing that, but thing is for, the driver to be able to get in and out, there could be yards of space behind me, but would be pointless without me, the driver. Also it not just a case of a tall person sitting a tall passenger on the passenger side, as I have 3 tall people at 1.93m plus me to accommodate not forgetting my other half who is 1.78m. You also said yourself how you found the Superb not easy to get in and out of with its wide sills etc, and there is no question about it the Superb is a very large car inside.

Edited 6 July, 20256 Jul by Graham Butcher

Check out the Hyundai Santa fe?

Getting back to an ev though you need to check out the Enyaq 80

@Stonekeeper the Santa Fe and the sister car Kia Sorento are already in my list of potential cars, along with the Kia Sportage and the Hyundai Tucson, but the Skoda Enyaq, is way too small, already looked at despite what the presenter side about the driver seat being in a position for 6ft driver, he is not 6ft, also the Enyaq is out of contention on price and currently also as its electric, unlikely to get permission for a home charger from my HA.

@Graham Butcher have you looked at a 5 seat Kodiaq... Slightly shorter than a superb but a higher driving position and loads of space with the rear seats pushed back

You might find this web site useful

Skoda Enyaq iV (NY) SUV 2021 is 13.6 cm shorter and 6.9 cm lower compared to Hyundai Santa Fe (TM) SUV 2020. It has 1 cm more ground clearance and offers 1% more cargo space.^4,5

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Skoda Enyaq iV 2021-2024 vs. Hyundai Santa Fe 2020-2023

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There is a very good reason the Wedding / Funeral / Airport Transport / Taxi drivers use Skoda Superbs, as did the Scottish First Minister.

I came up behind and passed the 'New' Santa Fa yesterday.

What a brick of a vehicle. I thought it was a Kia EV9 when a bit away from it.

Not so tall.

There used to be lots about as taxi,s in Scotland.

Edited 6 July, 20256 Jul by Ootohere

4 minutes ago, skomaz said:

@Graham Butcher have you looked at a 5 seat Kodiaq... Slightly shorter than a superb but a higher driving position and loads of space with the rear seats pushed back

Yes I have, that to be honest was indeed my favoured car and a couple of weekends ago my son and I went to Saxton 4x4 here in Chelmsford Used For Sale - UK’s #1 Used SUV Dealership | Saxton 4x4 (claim to the largest of their kind in Europe) and we tried Kodiaq, Mazda CX6, Volvo XC90 etc, all of which were a no go, both on budgets and physically impossible for any one to seat behind me in comfort. Which did surprise me as I would have thought the Kodiaq was almost a Superb on steroids, but it is not.

You probably need a Mercedes Vito 😃

Can we move car hunting for tall people to another thread?

Not remotely related to truth about EV’s.

3 hours ago, Stonekeeper said:

You might find this web site useful

Skoda Enyaq iV (NY) SUV 2021 is 13.6 cm shorter and 6.9 cm lower compared to Hyundai Santa Fe (TM) SUV 2020. It has 1 cm more ground clearance and offers 1% more cargo space.^4,5

Carsized.com

Skoda Enyaq iV 2021-2024 vs. Hyundai Santa Fe 2020-2023

Skoda Enyaq iV SUV 2021-2024 vs. Hyundai Santa Fe SUV 2020-2023. Compare car dimensions (length, width and height) vs. street perspective.

I swapped from a MG5 to an Enyaq and there’s way more space in it and a lot higher

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

There is a very good reason the Wedding / Funeral / Airport Transport / Taxi drivers use Skoda Superbs, as did the Scottish First Minister.

I came up behind and passed the 'New' Santa Fa yesterday.

What a brick of a vehicle. I thought it was a Kia EV9 when a bit away from it.

Not so tall.

There used to be lots about as taxi,s in Scotland.

Never seen a Superb used as wedding or funeral cars, airport and taxis, all the time. Funeral and weddings they use around this neck of the woods, stretched Ford Mondeos, Stretched Jaguar XJ6, Stretched Mercedes Benz, Daimler 420S and Rolls Royces.

The Santa Fe and its sister car, the Kia Sorento are typical of the bloated cars that I mentioned, appear to very large on the outside, but not so big on the inside, rather like the Volvo XC90, however they have been added to my list to further investigate.

The Fiat Doblo was also on my list however after watching the video you linked to, it has been removed from the list. He was 6ft 2" and he could not truly sit behind himself, he had to splay his legs out wide either side of the seat in front, less than ideal, especially given that the 4 of us men in the family have longer legs then most 6ft 4" men.

I earlier said the Kodiaq was not on my radar, I have put it back on, as the one I viewed I discovered was a 7 seater with the 3rd row of seats folded away, it comes as well as a 5 seater so maybe a better option? I would rather not have to go to a van derived option as they will be fairly basic, harder riding and noisier all round, so I think I have a good list compiled now for further checking out if possible thanks to this site Over 50.000 car brochures from brands around the world

Edited 6 July, 20256 Jul by Graham Butcher

3 hours ago, Stonekeeper said:

You probably need a Mercedes Vito 😃

Discounted as an option, very few in the UK and are around the £50k mark even secondhand.