I can't see that flex cable standing up to traffic, bet it's not fed off an RCCB either. 

Edited 6 June, 20242 yr by Warrior193
correction

Just a silly plonker with an EV then. 

37 minutes ago, Winston_Woof said:

Because if people can they will

Also power cable is not suitable for driving over.

Halifields Car Park High Street Earl Shilton. 

Pod Points, 8 plugs  30 pence a kWh.       Plugshare. 

*Eunice Kad with a Peugeot e-2008 charged there, but that is with a 2023 car.*     E21 TJK is a 2021

Amp Sucker  posted 40 pence a unit in 2023...

 

ZapMap shows.

Keates Lane Earl Shilton shows an InstaVolt at the Co-op so that is 85 pence a kWh.

 

The Peugeot getting 4 miles a kWh would be costing £8.50 to go 40 miles. 

More likely 37 miles. 

 

Wentworth Arms Pub is 59 pence a kWh.

Edited 5 June, 20242 yr by Ootohere

You just know this will become more commonplace 

Bound to. 

 Hopefully councils will have their Community Wardens / Street Patrols on the case & identify the property responsible and then the occupants and be able to take actions.

Warnings, written warnings, financial penalties, seizing vehicles etc.

 

Then the Councillors, MP,s for that ward or constituency can decide what they are going to have happening as far a local public charging that the area requires.

How much will come from their budgets and how much more the government need to be helping with this, or not if it has to be investors and companies splashing the wads.

If that is 240vac supply, then it is just going to a matter of time before someone receives a shock.

2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Also power cable is not suitable for driving over.

 

Wonder how a road sweeping lorry would deal with.

 

Must be some vehicle which would treat the cable like a landing aircraft on an aircraft carrier with its arrestor hook 🪝 and the damage to the car etc never mind about a snapping cable which could cut or kill like we have on dockside when mooring ropes snap and twang.

 

Just get a Niro...

 

 

SWARCO, he must know the name.  Runs Charge Place Scotland,  Does the EV Charger Maintenance for most of Scotland's 32 Local Authorities.

Bought the EV Charger Manufacturer that is now e-Volt and are the most common chargers that are on the CPS network.   Most often broken.

 

He charged at a slower speed (lower amp) on the 3 pin & then the 3 phase and hogged that charging place / BAY all night rather than moving the car later on & incase A.N.Other wanted in there to charge. 

This is Real World Electric Cars and Electric Car drivers & Vloggers. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 June, 20242 yr by Ootohere

I saw a Toyota Mirai this evening. First fuel cell EV I've seen. No idea where the owner fills up though as I've never seen any hydrogen filling stations here but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Quite pretty I thought.

 

https://www.whatcar.com/toyota/mirai/saloon/review/n17273 

10 minutes ago, @Lee said:

I saw a Toyota Mirai this evening. First fuel cell EV I've seen. No idea where the owner fills up though as I've never seen any hydrogen filling stations here but that doesn't mean there aren't any. Quite pretty I thought.

 

https://www.whatcar.com/toyota/mirai/saloon/review/n17273 

 

There was one opposite the hotel I stay at down at Heathrow Hatton Cross run by Shell I think but they are closing it I heard.

 

Just now, lol-lol said:

 

There was one opposite the hotel I stay at down at Heathrow Hatton Cross run by Shell I think but they are closing it I heard.

 

Shame. I'd consider a fuel cell EV over a plug in one more but for the current lack of infrastructure for refueling one. 

In the next 3 years there should be OK Hydrogen fueling stations for commercials on trunk routes in Scotland at least from just north of  Inverness going south, and Aberdeen south 

with Aberdeen, Inverness, Dundee, Perth, Kircaldy / Glenrothes, Edinburgh & Glasgow having places and then likely others. 

Perth might be the biggest or maybe near Harthill or Eurocentral. 

 

 

 

Edited 7 June, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@Lee

 

 

On 06/06/2024 at 09:13, Ootohere said:

SWARCO, he must know the name.  Runs Charge Place Scotland,  Does the EV Charger Maintenance for most of Scotland's 32 Local Authorities.

Bought the EV Charger Manufacturer that is now e-Volt and are the most common chargers that are on the CPS network.   Most often broken.

 

He charged at a slower speed (lower amp) on the 3 pin & then the 3 phase and hogged that charging place / BAY all night rather than moving the car later on & incase A.N.Other wanted in there to charge. 

This is Real World Electric Cars and Electric Car drivers & Vloggers. 

 

 

 

 

 

55p/kWhr plus the price of "tea" at Tebay services, makes for a very expensive stop!. It is one of the nicer places to take a break on a motorway, even if the last two times I've been there, there has been a thunderstorm and the power went out at the services  

On 06/06/2024 at 09:13, Ootohere said:

SWARCO, he must know the name.  Runs Charge Place Scotland,  Does the EV Charger Maintenance for most of Scotland's 32 Local Authorities.

Bought the EV Charger Manufacturer that is now e-Volt and are the most common chargers that are on the CPS network.   Most often broken.

 

He charged at a slower speed (lower amp) on the 3 pin & then the 3 phase and hogged that charging place / BAY all night rather than moving the car later on & incase A.N.Other wanted in there to charge. 

This is Real World Electric Cars and Electric Car drivers & Vloggers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thinking about this a bit more, the connector for this hotel car park, looked like a standard 16amp connector plugged into the wall, so I am surprised to see that he thought he could also use a 32amp feed when available. I'm familiar with a 32amp connector and it is similar looking, but larger and not compatible with a 16amp fitting. Is this something cars have adopted? Not heard of it myself.  

45 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

Thinking about this a bit more, the connector for this hotel car park, looked like a standard 16amp connector plugged into the wall, so I am surprised to see that he thought he could also use a 32amp feed when available. I'm familiar with a 32amp connector and it is similar looking, but larger and not compatible with a 16amp fitting. Is this something cars have adopted? Not heard of it myself.  

You are correct, there's 2 sizes for the CEE connector. I think he was not familiar with that and probably thought it was larger 32 amps socket.

 

But as mentioned in the video the Tesla mobile connector is compatible with both sizes/amp given the right adapter

https://shop.tesla.com/en_gb/product/blue-adapter---16a_32a-

 

 

Also, for information, Tebay service is 55p/kWh only during 4-8pm. All other times is 40p/kWh, making it cheaper per mile than ICE vehicles.

 

During my 1500 miles road trip, I have easily avoided charging more than necessary during 4-8pm peak periods. Using mostly Tesla supercharger at 30-40p/kWh range.

 

@Lady Elanore  It really does not matter if he really could not charge the Tesla faster, what matters is that he thought he could but was so entitled that he would not bother to go move his car and allow an other driver to charge if they needed too.   But then it was not his device so i will cut him some slack.

 

This was the SWARCO Maintenance division Techs car that had fixed the charger, an e-Volt charger manufactured by the SWARCO owned factory and from 'A ticket' raised with SWARCO employees working on behalf of Charge Place Scotland since they administer it. 

 

Surely the Competition & Markets Authority should be looking into this.

 

The charger where a Jag I-Pace was locked into for days an someone removed the CCS cable from charger and yet the car could still not be moved for 4 days.

The Tech that released the cable from the car did it without the car keys and without 'Isolating the HV Battery', but a man has to do what a man has to do, and there is a safe way to do it. 

Edited 10 June, 20241 yr by Ootohere

He was definitely a tesla wassock! Calling anything that wasn't a tesla "duff" didn't show him in an impartial light.

 

I get 'charging at home', especially if you can get sufficient charge at a lower rate, but charging prices compared to a diesel that could easily do 60mpg at similar motorway speeds to average EVs and with 2-3 times the range of most EVs means not having to stop and spend money on unnecessary coffees, pastries and food at exorbitant service station prices. If I was running a car purely for cost effectiveness, then I would be back in a 2.0  diesel in a heartbeat.

 

To be frank, I'm also a bit fed up with more and more staff turning up late with the excuse of "I couldn't get on a charge point on my way to site". They are paid to be there at a certain and start their duties. Either set off earlier than their ICE powered colleagues, or get an overnight hotel! 

33 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

I get 'charging at home', especially if you can get sufficient charge at a lower rate, but charging prices compared to a diesel that could easily do 60mpg at similar motorway speeds to average EVs and with 2-3 times the range of most EVs means not having to stop and spend money on unnecessary coffees, pastries and food at exorbitant service station prices. If I was running a car purely for cost effectiveness, then I would be back in a 2.0  diesel in a heartbeat.

Actually you can see from my trip up north, even when vast majority is not home charging, EV is cheaper than a 2.0 (or 2.2) diesel running in convoy. All stops were dictated by the car occupants, not the car.

 

Agree on the youtuber, I even find there's too much spin in favour of the big T, But at the same time, his channel is called "Just get a Tesla", a Tesla shill is par for course.

@wyx087  Cheaper with TESLA Charging or 55 pence a kWh or less. 

 Not once you are using PodPoint @ 62 or 65 pence, or 70 Pence Glasgow City chargers, 

or 63, 69 or 79 pence BP,  or 75, 79 pence chargers from others or 85 pence InstaVolt. 

 

50 kWh @ 62 pence is £31.     4 miles a kWh x 50 = 200 miles.

 

4.7 gallons @ £6.50 is £31.        42.5 mpg x 4.7 =200 miles.

 

EDIT,

Diesel prices up.

£7 a gallon.   

55 mpg,  x 4.4 gallon  242 miles.

Edited 10 June, 20241 yr by Ootohere

My latest fill up 2.0l Diesel

 

294.3 miles

27.22litres

£40.48

So with an EV @ 50 pence a kWh and 4 miles a kWh that is 81 kWh x 4 324 miles.   

Which is nice. For those getting that efficiency & price & a vehicle cheaply thanks to Tax Payers / HMRC BIK. 

 

............

My young lad is with friends and in their EV and is rather impressed.

I can see him going for a Kia rather than a Hyundai Ionic 5 N.

He said 635bhp. Not sure on that,  577 bhp is what i can find. 

Edited 10 June, 20241 yr by Ootohere

1 hour ago, Lady Elanore said:

He was definitely a tesla wassock! Calling anything that wasn't a tesla "duff" didn't show him in an impartial light.

 

I get 'charging at home', especially if you can get sufficient charge at a lower rate, but charging prices compared to a diesel that could easily do 60mpg at similar motorway speeds to average EVs and with 2-3 times the range of most EVs means not having to stop and spend money on unnecessary coffees, pastries and food at exorbitant service station prices. If I was running a car purely for cost effectiveness, then I would be back in a 2.0  diesel in a heartbeat.

 

To be frank, I'm also a bit fed up with more and more staff turning up late with the excuse of "I couldn't get on a charge point on my way to site". They are paid to be there at a certain and start their duties. Either set off earlier than their ICE powered colleagues, or get an overnight hotel! 

He is most certainly a Tesla fanboy for sure, as for other EVs being "duff" that is simply guff. The real problem is, just like ICE, there is no standard location for the charging socket / fuel filler to be and obviously Tesla are going to make their chargers suit their own cars. He even admitted that they were V3 chargers and the V4 ones had longer cables to accommodate different locations. 

 

He also made very hard work of exiting that car park, OK his car only has a 12m turning circle, but I'm pretty sure that he could get out much easier. Hell, my car is longer than his, and it has a turning circle of 11.7m, and I could out of that car park much easier.