Spacesaver for Yeti 4x4 17inch wheel

[28five]

Hi there, I am thinking of buying a space saver wheel for my 2013 L&K 4x4 Yeti.
 

The existing tyre size is 225 50z R17, so a 17 inch rim.
 

Could I please ask what is the recommended space saver wheel specification, as most Yeti space savers seem to be advertised only as 16 inch replacements? 

 

Many thanks

 

 

Martin

 

 

[RickT]

195 x 60 r16 is the smallest legal spare for all Yeti's. 

The rim size is 6.0J x 16. 5x112, ET50

The circumference is near the same but a narrower tyre so it sits lower in the boot.

[28five]

Thanks Rick,

 

Does that mean that although the rim size of the spacesaver at 16 inches is smaller than my 17 inch wheel, it would be recommended, for my Yeti?

 

Cheers

 

Martin

 

 

[Ootohere]

The rim size is small but the tyre circumference is correct.  But it will be an emergency use spare which means limiting your speed.   There is a thread from last week on a full size spare and how the floor will be lifted with the wider rim / tyre if you carry one.  It will be down the page or on the page before. 

[Kenny R]

A 16 x6” steel wheel fitted with a 195x60 x16 tyre is the Skoda approved size supplied with the spare wheel option.

As mentioned above this wheel tyre combo have almost the same circumference as the standard fit 17” wheels.

A skinny space saver spare wheel as such, has never been supplied nor recommended for fitting to a yeti no matter what some unscrupulous eBay sellers tell you, only the size mentioned above is the correct fitment.

Edited 3 January, 2022 by Kenny R

[J.R.]

 I chose a 125/70 R18" space saver spare wheel for my Yeti for 2 reasons, its within a hair of the same rolling diameter as the standard 215/60 R16" tyres and critically has the same load rating of 775kg.

 

If I have a puncture on one of my overnight trailer towing removal runs to South East France I could fit it and complete my journey driving without concern of it overheating, fitted to the rear (mine is 4x4) and driving within the normal towing limit of 90kph, the tyres speed rating is 210kph 😲

 

Not homologated, not Skoda Approved but imminently sensible and only illegal in the imagination of keyboard lawyers.

[RickT]

2 hours ago, 28five said:

Thanks Rick,

 

Does that mean that although the rim size of the spacesaver at 16 inches is smaller than my 17 inch wheel, it would be recommended, for my Yeti?

 

Cheers

 

Martin

 

 

Yep,

I reckon Kenny R's answer above has confirmed it in more detail for you. 

Rick.

[eribaMotters]

JR,

if the tyre/wheel combination of your choice was not at any time fitted as original equipment to your vehicle model then it is questionable as regards the legality of you using it and as such your insurance being void. This means a space-saver would be a no-no as I cannot recall one being supplied as original equipment or a listed optional spare.

Regarding a full size/normal wheel/tyre combination being used this is a different matter. I previously ran a 2014 Yeti on 17" rims. The spare was a full size combination at 16", with the same rolling diameter as my 17" fitted. The load and speed rating of this tyre were the same as the 17" fitted but it had a 80kph/50mph yellow warning sticker. I questioned this at dealer level and at VAG customer service level. I was informed that with this wheel fitted my speed had to legally be limited to 50mph as I was not running same size tyre/wheel combinations across the same "axle".

This did come as a surprise to me and I must admit to two years earlier towing my caravan nearly 700 miles back from The Dordogne in France with a similar wheel/tyre combination having suffered a puncture. I had towed at in excess of 80kph/50mph without any signs of stability, steering, braking issues.

 

Colin

[Frenchtone]

You need to accept that insurance company requirements here in france are markedly different to those within the uk, I have queried lots of things with my french office here to be told ok that works!

[J.R.]

So now we are downgraded from illegal to questionable legality 🤣

 

As for insurance I only ever have tiers risques (Third Party Only) where anyone else will always be paid out by the insurers 100% of the time even if I let a 3 year old deaf dumb and blind child behind the wheel driving on bald tyres with no brakes, if ever I have an accident then I didg in my pocket to sort myself out and not spend years arguing with my insurance company.

 

If I were to want legal advice I would put the random utterings from some unknown person on a forum over those of VAG customer service advisor!!!!!

 

I would not remove the huge yellow sticker from mine but neither would I drive at 80km/h on an autoroute unless the conditions dictated, it would be really really dangerous, were I to tow on normal tyres at the legal limit of 90km/h it would only be marginally safer, I would be the only person in history to do so and more than likely escorted off to a centre d'entretien Gendarmerie and told to drive over 110km/h or not use the autoroute.

Edited 3 January, 2022 by J.R.

[J.R.]

Its the Dordogne right beside Bergerac that I am moving too, hopefully I will never need the space saver, I have 3 different means of roadside puncture repairs, foam can, tyre plugs and a mushroom plug tool, the latter needs the wheel removing.

 

If I do drive on it I want it to have the same load and speed rating as the other tyres even though I would be driving slower than normal and at less than half of the maximum speed rating.

[eribaMotters]

JR, things are obviously very different for you in France and the OP was regarding the UK. The rules you have to follow and the culture towards insurance and puncture repair are obviously at odds to what we have in the UK.

 

Colin

Edited 3 January, 2022 by eribaMotters

[J.R.]

I drive the vehicle in the UK as well as France, I was commenting on the assertions that it is illegal to drive using my spare wheel, I don't believe it is in either country. Invalidating insurance is yet more misinformation but of no concern or relevance to me.

 

There is a big difference between "it is illegal" and "questionable legality" and a "rule you have to follow" and I did state "Not homologated, not Skoda Approved", I guess it was saying "imminently sensible" that lit the touchpaper.

[eribaMotters]

I guess at the end of the day it is down to the individual. I am generally conservative and risk averse. If I can avoid a possible roadside situation with a PC or Gendarme then I'll do what I can.

 

Colin

[B33fy]

Going back to the OP’s original query, the tyre size stated by Kenny R is the approved Skoda optional factory fitment. You would need a complete kit including new storage boxes and boot floor, to install properly, if you are currently using a canister system. The whole kit is available for around £260. There are two versions, 4wd and 2wd versions. The tyre size is the same, the difference is the boxes to accommodate the differences in the boot floors.

[28five]

Thanks for everyone’s comments/advice which is much appreciated.  It looks like the majority recommendation is for a full size albeit 16 inch rim and narrower tyre but not a space saver.

 

I need to track down the link for the boot level adjustment, so hopefully I can find that. 

 

Thanks again

 

Martin
 

 

[B33fy]

2 minutes ago, 28five said:

Thanks for everyone’s comments/advice which is much appreciated.  It looks like the majority recommendation is for a full size albeit 16 inch rim and narrower tyre but not a space saver.

 

I need to track down the link for the boot level adjustment, so hopefully I can find that. 

 

Thanks again

 

Martin
 

 

I bought mine from Caffyns.. here’s a link for the 4wd version.  https://seat-skoda.caffynsparts.co.uk/parts/skoda-parts/skoda-yeti-4wd-spare-wheel-kit-including-false-floor/

[28five]

2 minutes ago, B33fy said:

Going back to the OP’s original query, the tyre size stated by Kenny R is the approved Skoda optional factory fitment. You would need a complete kit including new storage boxes and boot floor, to install properly, if you are currently using a canister system. The whole kit is available for around £260. There are two versions, 4wd and 2wd versions. The tyre size is the same, the difference is the boxes to accommodate the differences in the boot floors.

Ah thanks, out of interest, do you know how much higher the floor is raised, with the full size spare in situ.? Many thanks for your reply.

[B33fy]

Just now, 28five said:

Ah thanks, out of interest, do you know how much higher the floor is raised, with the full size spare in situ.? Many thanks for your reply.

It raises it to Just below the boot sill height. There’s an image on the link I posted, which may help.

[28five]

16 minutes ago, B33fy said:

It raises it to Just below the boot sill height. There’s an image on the link I posted, which may help.

Many thanks 

[Carlston]

According to "skoda eshop cz" there are two spare wheel kits.

 

The first Yeti spare wheel kit 5L0071108B is for:

4WD Yetis

2WD Yetis made until 22/2010.

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/sada-pro-vymenu-rezervniho-kola/p/5L0071108B

 

The second Yeti spare wheel kit 5L0071108C is for:

2WD Yetis made after 22/2010.

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/sada-pro-vymenu-rezervniho-kola/p/5L0071108C

 

You should be able to order these at any Skoda dealer using the OEM part numbers given in bold type.

 

A Skoda dealer should also be able to confirm whether it fits your vehicle.

 

Edited 4 January, 2022 by Carlston

[Ootohere]

@28five

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/500356-alloy-spare-wheel

 

The Yeti Guide section is handy. 

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/407451-diy-space-saver-wheel-assembly

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/156798-spare-wheel-assembly

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/148948-yeti-tyre-and-rim-guide