Hi.

 

Has anyone got a new 2.0 TSi Sportline DSG?

 

I'm considering changing from a MY19 Octavia RS and was wondering what you think of it and what sort of mpg you're getting, any issues with it?

 

Do you have any extras on such as DCC etc? Are you pleased with it or regret it? 

 

Thanks for your help. 

I have DCC on my 1.5 TSi Karoq. I came from a car which had 'adaptive cruise' where the car sensed the vehicles in front and would back off the throttle to keep a gap, but didn't apply the brakes, allowing the car to pick up speed beyond the set speed on downhills. I found this OK. With the Karoq that side of things is OK, but it does apply the brakes if necessary. But braking has little finesse, making the ride uncomfortable with passengers. It can be quite crude when it ia avare of a bend and slows down, brking tends to be later and harsher than I like. But the main issue I find is this. I live in an area with few dual carriageways so much of my time I am driving on undulating relatively straight A roads. As I rarely need to hurry, I tend to set the ACC to ~55mph. When I get to a different limit, say 30mph, braking is late and harsh. When I get back to the 60mph limit the ACC resets to 60mph, not 55mph, so I have to reset it. It always resets to maximum allowed speed, whether I want it or not. So I vary rarely use DCC, just simplecruise, even then frequently swithching it off and on. TBH, I wouldn't have it again.

@Routemaster1461A 1.5 TSI with ACT and a totally different DSG as in a 7 speed dry clutch one if that is what you have is really comparing apples and pairs with a 2.0 TSI 7 speed wet clutch DSG.

42 minutes ago, roottoot said:

@Routemaster1461A 1.5 TSI with ACT and a totally different DSG as in a 7 speed dry clutch one if that is what you have is really comparing apples and pairs with a 2.0 TSI 7 speed wet clutch DSG.

For clarity my car is a manual, not DSG.

Even more of a case of apples and pears then. 

I am very pleased with my MY21 2.0 TSI DSG 4x4 Sportline. I also had DCC fitted, and prefer the Comfort setting to the normal one. But it does give a 'floating' ride reminiscent of my old Citroens from many years ago. I don't understand why journalists say they can't feel the difference in the settings as they are quite obvious to me; and the added bonus is that it is a dynamic system that is working all the time as you corner. I also went for the Progressive Steering (as it was called then) which varies the steering ratio as you turn the wheel, so it can be quite direct at small steering angles but 'speeds up' as you approach full lock. (I'm not convinced that Routemaster1461 above is talking about the Dynamic Chassis Control system, as he then talks about the Cruise Control!)

 

I've still only driven around 4,500 miles so far thanks to lockdowns aborting our normal French driving holidays, but I'm getting around 35mpg for weekly shopping trips of about 16 miles out and back, while long motorway journeys at 70 give me around 45mpg. (I suspect I may be a more gentle driver than you though if you use your Octavia vRS to the full  )

 

If you're looking at the facelifted Karoq, the engines and aerodynamics have been improved so the fuel economy should be better. But due to chip shortages some of the assist systems I have on my car are not yet available (eg Emergency Assist and Area View). 

 

I've had DSG cars now for around 12 years, and have no problems with the wet plate DQ381-7A system. In previous Golfs I've had to drop into Sport mode now and then to overtake or climb steep winding hills, but the power available in the 2.0TSI means I seldom need to do this anymore. And while I've been out in the snow last winter, I haven't really tested the 4x4 drive... but it's reassuring to know it's there if needed, even on summer Bridgestone Dueler tyres. 

 

Let me know if I can be of anymore help.

 

Chris 

   

Edited 14 March, 20224 yr by CJJE

@Routemaster1461 There seems to be some mix up in terminology. 
DCC = direct chassis control , think you are referring to cruise control which is irrelevant.

1 hour ago, Kenny R said:

@Routemaster1461 There seems to be some mix up in terminology. 
DCC = direct chassis control , think you are referring to cruise control which is irrelevant.

 

I think I may be referring to ACC, not DCC. Apologies to all!

Perhaps I should also mention that from MY21 onwards, Karoqs have been 'blessed' with the MIB3 infotainment system. As the threads in this forum show there have been many complaints about this 'upgrade' from the previous MIB2 systems, although the latest software does seem to be helping.

 

The online map updates work for me, but I know others have had problems. But it also locks you into paying for the Skoda Connect licence each year unless they eventually get the promised 'update via USB-C' feature to work. 

 

The user interface for the mapping software is quite different, and poorly documented. But I find the maps to be accurate for roads (if less so for POIs like petrol stations) and the forecast journey times work for me. The advertised feature of sending destinations from a phone or PC to the car does not work reliably, and the Web Radio only works if you buy a Dataplan from Cubic Telecom, or route the dataflow via your phone. 

 

Chris

Edited 14 March, 20224 yr by CJJE

I've got DCC on my Octy, it certainly makes a difference in handling, ACC is also on it and would most certainly specified on a Sportline. 

 

As for Sat Nav, I tend to use Waze or Google Maps rather than the Octys built in system, so isn't a real deal breaker. Although saying that, I'd like to know how much they charge p.a for the service. 

 

I would most certainly specify a Winter package with heated windscreen and heated seats and steering wheel, that's a boon to have on icy mornings and night's being a member of traincrew. 

 

Very curious about the handling, power delivery and mpg though, as they could be deal breakers!

Edited 14 March, 20224 yr by TheWanderer

You'll find details about the Connect services at ŠKODA CONNECT (skoda-auto.com)

 

It's free for the first year while you get used to using it, then the cost of renewing licences varies during the year as they often have sale offers. (You can buy during a sale period and have the new licence period added to your existing licence, so you don't lose out.)

 

It's a higher car than an Octavia, so will probably not corner or handle as well if you're that way inclined. And it's a long time since I owned an Octavia... and I find the handling and power perfectly satisfactory, but my last cars have been a Golf SV 1.4TSI DSG and a Golf Plus 1.6TDI DSG, with this one probably being the most powerful car I've owned   . The fuel economy doesn't match my Golfs, but as my annual mileage has fallen it's not a problem to me. And my insurance went up less than I'd anticipated too, due I think to all its driver assist packages. 

 

Sounds like a test drive would help. 

 

Chris

Hi      have had mine since 1/3/22    Still getting used to it ,driving it sedately about 34/38!!

but it’s great.

Well I have an appointment with Lookers on Saturday to discuss thing's, so I'll see what comes of it.

 

I love the Octy for its boot space and its pace when I want it, its handling is superb, however it is low and with a duff knee and ankle, I can't help thinking that it maybe time to get something that's easier to get in and out of. 

Yeh, it was my back that persuaded me to sell my Octavia and move to an MPV - the Golf Plus. Then when that was replaced by the Golf SV I found that equally comfortable to get in and out of. Now of course MPVs have largely died out and so the Karoq was the natural replacement as I prefer physical buttons to the touchscreen controls that VW's etc beancounters have decided are cheaper even if they're not as safe to use. 

 

Vhris

2 hours ago, TheWanderer said:

...with a duff knee and ankle...

 

For that and the body of a God, the Karoq is a blessing.

Add the reversing camera for a stiff neck.

And don't ask how I know.

 

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however it is low and with a duff knee and ankle, I can't help thinking that it maybe time to get something that's easier to get in and out of. 

Funnily enough, that's exactly why I swapped my Focus for a Karoq 1.5 SEL DSG about 3 months ago😀. Still getting used to the DSG but enjoying it so far and it's certainly less strain on the left knee and much easier to get in and out of.

DCC is worth considering if you like soft / hard suspension depending on the road surface, your driving style or who is in the car. My wife's Karoq Edition 1.5 DSG 4 x 4 does not have DCC but, my Superb L&K does so I do miss DCC when I drive the Karoq. That said my wife is not bothered about DCC, paddle gear shifters, DSG sport mode, cruise control or half of the other stuff  fitted to the Edition model. But she does like the ambient lighting & changes it daily!! 🤔 I also miss the heated front windscreen (in winter) on the Karoq which is fitted on my Superb. We bought our Karoq used so we didn't get a choice of options but for what my wife needs it's absolutely fine.  

However, those nice to have options will push up the price very quickly. 

I had a good nose around a Karoq today and sat in it for a while and it's lovely and comfortable and whilst the increased ride height is quite nice, the large lump/hump of the bonnet is not for me.

 

If the bonnet was slightly flatter I'd probably have gone for it, I guess that I just like the flatter bonnet of the Octavia RS. 

 

Thanks for all of your help and input.