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What I do remember is that I had to insist the the selling dealer carry it out as a condition of my purchaing the car (following advice).  Take no notice of the 24EU being only for Manual cars either. Mine was done and its a DSG.

 

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On 18/08/2022 at 11:59, smipx said:

I have a suspicion it may be a recall called 24EU but I may be wrong.  My complete record shows that 24EU was carried out.    https://car-recalls.eu/official-vw-skoda-and-seat-recall-for-some-bouncing-1-5-tsi-engines/   

Had a call from Skoda Glasgow (Henrys), service department checked all the data on Skoda server and the answer was no, no there was never recall on Skoda for DSG remapping and no the car has no outstanding recalls. 

Can I re-set a DSG gearbox ?

VW Group / Skoda have never done a RECALL on DSG's in Europe, even when there was a World Wide Recall in 2012 it excluded Europe were they had to start a Service Campaign in 2014, then another in 2017, then TPI's from 2015.   

 

As to from 2018,

 if there is no TPI or Recall Action actually covering the DQ200 DSG you have then that will be that and no Software Update available.

When they plug the car in at a service then there will not be one for your car. 

http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-actions

 

If the car is in for a Service and you feel the DSG is not behaving as it should then maybe ask that the Technician carries out a reset.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/461809-15-tsi-with-7-speed-dsg

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/501404-automatic-gearbox-issues

 

Recall on Engine which is an actual Recall for affected vehicles.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/486906-skoda-recall-info

 

 

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The fact is that there is a "campaign" out called EU24 on cars "With" the DSG gearbox as well as the manual gearbox" that is there to help fix some stalling/lumpiness issues. You need to ask them about this and whether it has been done and whether it should be.   https://www.karoqforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=566  

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The Service Desk person at Henrys should have made it clear if the Recall Action was not required or outstanding because it had been carried out as a Skoda Main Dealer is required to when they have a Car through them for a Sale.  It might have been carried out at previous visits with the previous keeper / keepers.

 

It was a DVLA Safety Recall on the 1.5 TSI but only on certain Build Dates.  That should be clear to the Service Desk staff on the cars Service Record.

 

As to any Software Updates & the most recent management for a DSG that is not unusual that they will not be aware of a TPI. 

Ain't this a change of topic. Thought thread was about alternative tyres?  Before we start going off at tangents about recalls or whatever...

 

On 18/08/2022 at 11:28, Vlady said:

I know about kangaroo effect but I was hoping a software remap was done before I bought the car,

 

On 18/08/2022 at 11:46, Vlady said:

Just emailed the seller, to the Sales guy I bought the car from. I have only one worry that he will tell me that it was done!

I asked him if he has any suggestions why the car can behave like that and explained to him what and when it happens, lets see what he comes back with.

 

Perhaps folk are getting a little carried away.  If the symptom is the car is holding on to 1st gear, then that's not kangarooing. Kangarooing was caused by engine software - it had nothing to do with the gearbox.

 

If your car is holding on to 1st gear then there's something far wrong as no DSG I know of behaves like that, not even when you're in SPORT mode.

 

Why contact tthe sales guy when it's the service dept you want? All they can do is ask you to book the car in to the garage so they can test drive / run diagnostics.

 

I've had dealings with Henry's on Kyle street - called in on the off chance about an issue with my old car and they arranged for someone to come out on a test drive with me there and then. He confirmed the fault, the car was booked in the next week and the problem resolved. So if it's of any comfort, I thought they were excellent. ( I didn't purchase the car from them ).

 

EDIT - back on subject, if he's a good salesman he's more likely to try and sell you a set of tyres :D

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On 18/08/2022 at 11:26, Vlady said:

That is the reason I am buying All Season tires, they are very good for wet and when temperature is lower than 7C plus in Scotland you might get snow, in the morning. It doesn't help much as traffic usually not moving anywhere with all other drivers using summer tires that are almost worn to a limit! I just don't get it why they leave the house at all if they know they have summer tires that are worn! Irresponsible, I think!

 

Looking at the wet grip rating on "all season tyres" theyre worse than original summer tyres and some budget replacements i.e Nexen.  For 9 months of the year according to my local met office station, my average temparatures are over 10 degrees.  Thus I compromise 2/3 of the year if i buy All seasons.  - File under snake oil if you live in England.  My next tyres will be Nexen Fera saving me £30 a corner against the bridgestones, and £80 a corner vs cross climates.

39 minutes ago, OldBluebird said:

 

Looking at the wet grip rating on "all season tyres" theyre worse than original summer tyres and some budget replacements i.e Nexen.  For 9 months of the year according to my local met office station, my average temparatures are over 10 degrees.  Thus I compromise 2/3 of the year if i buy All seasons.  - File under snake oil if you live in England.  My next tyres will be Nexen Fera saving me £30 a corner against the bridgestones, and £80 a corner vs cross climates.

Fair enough, it is a good saving.

The one I bought, Pirelli, are supposed to be very quite too, will see, I am still waiting for another 2 to arrive so I can put on all 4 in one time.

In England I wouldn't consider all season tires or snow tires either.

20 hours ago, OldBluebird said:

 

Looking at the wet grip rating on "all season tyres" theyre worse than original summer tyres and some budget replacements i.e Nexen.  For 9 months of the year according to my local met office station, my average temparatures are over 10 degrees.  Thus I compromise 2/3 of the year if i buy All seasons.  - File under snake oil if you live in England.  My next tyres will be Nexen Fera saving me £30 a corner against the bridgestones, and £80 a corner vs cross climates.


You have fallen into the classic error or not checking the test parameters.  And basically assuming summer tyres will be tested at an average UK temperature.    It is very true that wet grip at temperatures over 20c is not quite as good, but in UK majority of our rain is nearer 3-15c and the wet grip rating is not based on cold rain.

 

Many tests, (and comments on these forums) have said how wet grip falls off below +10c on many of the summer biased tires.

 

So your compromise is in warm summer showers coming off continent, not UK Atlantic origin rain which is more like 90% the time.

 

21 hours ago, OldBluebird said:

 

Looking at the wet grip rating on "all season tyres" theyre worse than original summer tyres and some budget replacements i.e Nexen.  For 9 months of the year according to my local met office station, my average temparatures are over 10 degrees.  Thus I compromise 2/3 of the year if i buy All seasons.  - File under snake oil if you live in England.  My next tyres will be Nexen Fera saving me £30 a corner against the bridgestones, and £80 a corner vs cross climates.

 

Fair enough but I'd argue you're looking at it the wrong way round.  In warm dry conditions the differences between a summer tyre and a good all season are small to the detriment of the all season - but in cold wet conditions (which a lot of the UK gets maybe 5 months a year) the differences are massive to the detriment of the summer.  I know which I'd prefer to be using as and all year round compromise given the above.

 

 

To be consistent with thread title

 

The Turanza T005 is being replaced by Turanza 6

It seems that they will be available to buy in UK from about late Feb or March 2023 ready for the summer tyre season

 

 

3 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

The Turanza T005 is being replaced by Turanza 6

It seems that they will be available to buy in UK from about late Feb or March 2023 ready for the summer tyre season

 

In the 2022 auto bild summer tyre test, the Turanza T005 could only do 62.25% of the mileage of the winning Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2. I doubt the T006 will be much better if any in that regard.

 

2022 auto bild summer tyre test

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Auto-Bild-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

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I used to put Goodyear Efficientgrips on my old Astra but, according to the Blackcircles site, they aren’t available for the 18” Karok wheel.

2 hours ago, StEdmund said:

I used to put Goodyear Efficientgrips on my old Astra but, according to the Blackcircles site, they aren’t available for the 18” Karok wheel.

 

If you mean size 215/50R18, they are widely available. However, the Karoq 4x4 uses the slightly bigger 225/50R18 size.

 

Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 215/50R18 92V C B 68dB

 

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/goodyear/efficientgrip-performance-2/215/50/R18/V/92/m?tyre=40971916

 

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/tyre/Goodyear/EfficientGrip-Performance-2/215-50-R18-92V/R-434407

 

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s3736p197496/Goodyear_Tyres_Car_Goodyear_EfficientGrip_Performance_2_-_215_50_R18_92V_FP_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_A_Noise%3A_68dB

 

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25 minutes ago, Carlston said:


Thanks for pointing that out, it didn’t appear as an option when I entered the regn number on the website.

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So, following on from my original post, this is what actually happened ..............

 

A fortnight before the MoT test, I asked my preferred local tyre emporium to check the tyres for me and to cast some advice on the degree of perishing of the tyres that had been noted in the previous MoT test. I wanted to avoid being pulled up for questionable tyres as I would be working to a narrow time frame. The chap checked the tread depth and confirmed the 3.5mm on fronts and 5mm on the rears. The perishing wasn't too detrimental and I should get another 6 months out of the tyres - no need to change them in preparation for the fast approaching MoT; I would have time to consider what sort of tyres to purchase, and there'd be no rush.

 

A fortnight later, during the test, I received a call to say that the tester had failed two of the tyres for having 'cuts which revealed the metal cord' - visible when the car was up on the ramp. I could not blame my tyre-chap as he did not have the benefit of having the car on a ramp. As I needed the test to be completed asap and the only tyres immediately available were Falken Azenis FK-453CC, they're what I had to go with. I did a quick price check to make sure that I wasn't being completely ripped off - not too bad.

 

I'll see how I get on with the Falkens - they are supposed to be quieter than the Touranzas - and I'll see if the rubber is less liable to perishing. If they are good, then I'll replace the two remaining Touranzas with Falkens when the time comes. I suppose that, in the past when I was using a car for work, my tyres never got chance to perish before they were worn out and replaced.

 

Has anyone on here any experience or views on Falkens?

 

 

I had Falkens on my BMW E39 5 series, more than 10 years ago and can't fault them, at that time these were good cheap alternative to brand tires. If you happy with the noise and fuel consumption or a wet handling I see no reason why you can't get another 2 tyres. I have not considered Falken in my last cars as I wanted an all season and Falken (all season) are not good enough on noise parameters which is very important to me and the price difference nowadays is much less if you go with Falkens or other brands, unless it is a Michelin Cross Climate +.

Last Thursday (this week) I put on 4 Pirellis, all seasons and though I haven't taken car yet for a proper drive but just local runs but they already feel more comfortable and quieter plus I know if we get snow I won't be stacked away from home. Pirellis were about £20 more expensive per corner but I think it was worth it. 

I have falken azenis fk510 on the Kodiaqs and zeix 310 on the swift and so far haven't been able to fault them.  They've proved quiet, stable and grippy in all weathers 

18 hours ago, StEdmund said:

So, following on from my original post, this is what actually happened ..............

. As I needed the test to be completed asap and the only tyres immediately available were Falken Azenis FK-453CC, they're what I had to go with. I did a quick price check to make sure that I wasn't being completely ripped off - not too bad.


I'll see how I get on with the Falkens - they are supposed to be quieter than the Touranzas - and I'll see if the rubber is less liable to perishing. If they are good, then I'll replace the two remaining Touranzas with Falkens when the time comes. 


Interestingly the FK-453CC are now only available in one size (per Falken website), should be quieter (although if you still have 2 noisy Turanza might not notice).      If you are thinking of two more at some stage in future, I would check periodically to ensure they are not discontinued as getting them then becomes harder.

 

https://www.falkentyre.com/en/tyres/car-tyres/product-detail/40760

 

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35 minutes ago, SurreyJohn said:


Interestingly the FK-453CC are now only available in one size (per Falken website), should be quieter (although if you still have 2 noisy Turanza might not notice).      If you are thinking of two more at some stage in future, I would check periodically to ensure they are not discontinued as getting them then becomes harder.

 

https://www.falkentyre.com/en/tyres/car-tyres/product-detail/40760

 

 

Thanks for that information, I'd better get a move on. I see also, from the link, that Falken claim 'rim protection' - I can't say I had noticed that before.

3 hours ago, StEdmund said:

 

Thanks for that information, I'd better get a move on. I see also, from the link, that Falken claim 'rim protection' - I can't say I had noticed that before.

 

The front tyres on FWD cars wear much quicker than the rears.

 

One option is to keep the new tyres on the front until they wear out.

 

It's often claimed that it's best to fit two new tyres on the rear and move the part worn rear tyres to the front. However, if you have 5mm of tread on the rear it's not necessary because the front tyre wear will quickly catch up with the wear on the current rears.

 

Next time when it comes to tyre replacement you will then be able to look for four matching new tyres.

 

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