Alloy wheel warranty

[Lythamjohn]

How long is the warranty on alloy wheels on a Skoda? 

I’m assuming it’s 3 years because despite my car having been with the dealership in Bolton for 6 weeks, and at other dealerships in December and in March, non of the dealerships noticed the lacquer coming off the alloys, when the car was still under warranty. 

And as I rarely use the car it rarely needs cleaning. So when I had it cleaned chap kindly pointed out the paint issue in my alloy wheels. 

 

any advice is great fully received.

 

thanks 

 

[J.R.]

Are they still round and do they hold pressure?

[Lythamjohn]

They do. But I thought it would be covered by some form or paint warranty, or at least be covered by some other clause 

[Gaz]

15 hours ago, Lythamjohn said:

But I thought it would be covered by some form or paint warranty, or at least be covered by some other clause 

 

I very much doubt it on both counts.  A paint warranty generally only covers problems coming from the inside out, or of course actual problems with the paint, not stone chips or other physical damage.

 

Alloys wheels are vulnerable, if not prone, to chips and other damage from general driving.  Getting minor chips, which then let water under the lacquer, causing the lacquer to lift (often referred to as 'white worm') are all too common, so I can't see any clause that would cover such eventualities.

 

If you feel there's an obvious problem with the paint, or quality of the finish, then ask the dealers opinion and advice.  Don't be surprised if they politely decline to assist.

 

Have you had the car since new? Is it possibly just a poorly executed light refurb?

 

Gaz

 

[kodiaqsportline]

23 hours ago, Lythamjohn said:

How long is the warranty on alloy wheels on a Skoda? 

I’m assuming it’s 3 years because despite my car having been with the dealership in Bolton for 6 weeks, and at other dealerships in December and in March, non of the dealerships noticed the lacquer coming off the alloys, when the car was still under warranty. 

And as I rarely use the car it rarely needs cleaning. So when I had it cleaned chap kindly pointed out the paint issue in my alloy wheels.

 

Look at this from logical perspective.  For the past 3yr, nobody, including yourself, has noticed any issue with the alloy. You then have the car cleaned and the cleaner says the lacquer is coming off.  One reasonable possibility is it was the cleaner who damaged your alloy wheel.

 

6mths after purchase, the onus falls on the customer to prove faulty manufacture so the question you should be asking yourself is how are you going to do that when the evidence suggests otherwise?   If you're saying the alloy was faulty at manufacture, then you're going to have to explain why it's taken almost 3yr for the damage to appear. 

 

You can trying making a warranty claim but I think you'd be wasting your time. ( I'd be happy for you if I was wrong ).

 

For around £60-£70 you can have that alloy refurbished back to 'as new' condition.  That's what I'd do.

[J.R.]

On 21/07/2023 at 23:03, Lythamjohn said:

They do. But I thought it would be covered by some form or paint warranty, or at least be covered by some other clause  exclusion

 

Fixed that for you!

[EnterName]

On 21/07/2023 at 21:59, Lythamjohn said:

How long is the warranty on alloy wheels on a Skoda? 

I’m assuming it’s 3 years because despite my car having been with the dealership in Bolton for 6 weeks, and at other dealerships in December and in March, non of the dealerships noticed the lacquer coming off the alloys, when the car was still under warranty. 

And as I rarely use the car it rarely needs cleaning. So when I had it cleaned chap kindly pointed out the paint issue in my alloy wheels. 

 

any advice is great fully received.

 

thanks 

 

Please excuse the somewhat harsh rewording of your problem, but I think this sums it up:

"I don't really use my car and make little effort to care for it. However a bloke I paid to clean my car told me I have a problem with my wheel lacquer, and now I'm unhappy."

 

Personally I think you should I'd shrug it off, because it seems to me the bloke who washed your car has more of a problem with your wheel lacquer issue than you do.

[Lythamjohn]

Like I’ve said I don’t use it very often, so it sits in a garage. I’ve done 2,000 miles in a year of which 900 miles were done on one trip, following which the car was cleaned and put away. The other times it’s been long trips, where again the car has been cleaned and put away in my garage. The fact I pay someone to clean it, and the fact I don’t have it cleaned very often is irrelevant as the car doesn’t need cleaning as it’s in a dry dust free garage. The fact the person detailing the car noticed it is probably due to the fact it’s part of his job to notice these things. Whilst I would love to clean and polish my cars like I used to I am no longer able to do so.
I simply asked about the warranty on the paint on the wheels, I didn’t ask for your opinions on your interpretation of the law; or for you to criticise how I look after a vehicle as you know nothing about me or the other cars I use. 
I purchased a 7 seater Kodiaq to make those family journeys easier, my own other car only has two seats and my wife’s has 4 the rear two are very small. So when taking my daughter to uni would have been really difficult, plus we thought it would become useful when taxing my son and his friends along with other parent.

However, had I stated that I would have gotten some verbal from someone else. 
I thought the idea of these forums was for people to share experiences and to try and help other owners, and not to form your own opinions on limited information. 
If I had the Kodiaq cleaned at least once a week the detailer would have noticed it sooner, but as having it cleaned when it’s already clean is pointless. 
Part of my other gripe was if the wheels were covered by a 3 year warranty two local dealerships have had my car in for work and despite the fact I would have thought there would have mentioned it when detailing the car whilst within the 3 year warranty they haven’t. 
Because of Covid My wife’s last Cayenne was nearly 4 years old when she changed it and the lacquer started failing on one of the front wheels which Porsche picked up during a service and replaced the same day without even being asked. 
Hence, my question before speaking to the dealership. 




 

 

[kodiaqsportline]

On 23/07/2023 at 22:09, Lythamjohn said:

I simply asked about the warranty on the paint on the wheels, I didn’t ask for your opinions on your interpretation of the law.

Part of my other gripe was if the wheels were covered by a 3 year warranty two local dealerships have had my car in for work and despite the fact I would have thought there would have mentioned it when detailing the car whilst within the 3 year warranty they haven’t.

Because of Covid My wife’s last Cayenne was nearly 4 years old when she changed it and the lacquer started failing on one of the front wheels which Porsche picked up during a service and replaced the same day without even being asked. 
Hence, my question before speaking to the dealership.

 

Charming.

 

To quote your original post:

On 21/07/2023 at 21:59, Lythamjohn said:

any advice is great fully received.

 

Really?

 

Well lets have another go at answering your question.

 

If you didn't receive a warranty booklet with your car, you can find it online: https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/46df90c7-03bd-4018-be8d-a502e090781c

 

...I would have thought there would have mentioned it when detailing the car whilst within the 3 year warranty they haven’t.

 

And how do you know the issue was present when the car was at the dealership? You're making an assumption.

 

 

 

[Lythamjohn]

Thanks for the link. I do have the booklet but I find it somewhat wishy washy…..

 

Previous to my car going into the dealership, it hadn’t been driven for 5 or so months which is probably when it was last cleaned, at which point the person detailing my car didn’t spot the paint issue. The car then did an amazing 30 ish miles before landing at Skoda for 6 weeks whilst they tried to resolve the grinding when turning left. When I picked up the car it was clear that it had not been washed within the recent weeks and as such when I returned I had the car cleaned, where the issue was spotted. It’s the lacquer which is coming away from the paint, well the alloy metal, theres a bubble about the size of a 5 pence piece, which hasn’t yet popped and which no marks, but you can see oxidation. 

 

To answer you question how do I know it would have been present during the time the car was at the dealership. I sought the advice from a specialist who restores alloy wheels, who informed me the oxidation occurs due to imperfections within the manufacturing process. Therefore, on the balance or probabilities, it is more than likely that the issue with the wheels was present at the time of the vehicle being at the dealership. 

 

 

 

 

[PetrolDave]

1 hour ago, Lythamjohn said:

Therefore, on the balance of probabilities, it is more than likely that the issue with the wheels was present at the time of the vehicle being at the dealership. 

I seriously doubt whether that will be enough to get Skoda UK or the dealer to agree that they should fund the repair, they will be looking for "proof" not "balance of probabilities" I believe.

[J.R.]

On 23/07/2023 at 23:09, Lythamjohn said:

purchased a 7 seater Kodiaq to make those family journeys easier, my own other car only has two seats and my wife’s has 4 the rear two are very small. So when taking my daughter to uni would have been really difficult, plus we thought it would become useful when taxing my son and his friends along with other parent.

However, had I stated that I would have gotten some verbal from someone else. 

 

Possibly along the lines of "how the other half live"

 

2 seater.

 

Porsche Cayenne

 

7 seater Kodiaq for taking daughter to university and taxi-ing son and his friends around

 

A detailer to clean the cars............

 

If you knew better than to say that then it would have been better to remain tight lipped.

 

 

[Lythamjohn]

3 minutes ago, J.R. said:

If you knew better than to say that then it would have been better to remain tight lipped.

I don’t understand your gibberish, it doesn’t make sense.

 

 Firstly, I don’t know if your rudeness is because your French or if it’s because living in France has rubbed off on you, either way correcting someone’s typo is very rude and not socially accepted, as by doing so people assume your an arrogant little man with some form of inferiority complex. Google corrects spelling mistakes and highlights typo’s it’s just that I couldn’t be arsed changing it. 

 

In the UK its not that uncommon for a house hold to have more than one car, or at least where I live its most house holds. For all you know is the Cayenne could have been a company car, and the two seater could have been a 2015 piece of crap category ‘S’ insurance write off rebuild, worth £1500.

 

I don’t see you commenting negatively on those owners with a £56k Kodiaq VRS which when fully loaded costs well over £56k given a Cayenne 4 years ago was £61k. 

 

And I don’t see why its a negative to pay someone to detail my car, I’m sure the chap who does mine does a much better job that you could, given he’s got 15 years experience and has all the equipment, experience and skills. Do you not pay people to do jobs for you?? Do you repair the roof on your static caravan or would you pay someone to do it for you? 

[J.R.]

I made no negative comments about you.

 

You said yourself you did not divulge details of your vehicle fleet because it would have gotten verbal from someone else and then did exactly that.

 

My comment was maybe you should have remained tight lipped i.e. not given those details which you believed would leave you open to recieving "verbal"

 

I wont respond to your remarks but will answer the questions asked of me:

 

37 minutes ago, Lythamjohn said:

Do you not pay people to do jobs for you?? Do you repair the roof on your static caravan or would you pay someone to do it for you? 

 

1. - No, I have had no income since Covid and am living on my savings until I will recieve only a partial UK pension in 3 years time, I also have the expenses of renovating my new property and maintaining the Hôtel with 7 electricity supplies until the conditions are right to sell, I did all the work on that myself over 12 years after purchasing it as an abandoned delapidated wreck.

 

2. Yes, I bought it last Autumn with severe damp, I replaced the entire rotted front wooden framework and internal paneling, I also made repairs to both the front and rear of the roof that was leaking, one of these leaked again this spring and I had to make a better repair to both of them and replace all the rotten panelling in the bedroom whilst still sleeping in there.

 

I am currently repairing the roof of the house, initially removing fractured chimneys, broken tiles which involved having to replace the entire ridge and the first row of tiles which were damaged from covering over the chimney or replacing tiles in the second and 3rd row, this was done in the last few weeks when the temperature rarely got below 35°

 

Last week I had to break through the beam and block concrete ceiling cutting through 2 reinforced concrete beams in the process and having to shore up and cast around the new access hatch, nobody has been inside the roof for 50 years.

 

2 days ago I was able to inspect for the first time the roof timbers, many are eaten away by Capricorn Beetle (long horn stag beetle?) and with the limited time I had due to the massive heat I could identify 4 rafters and 4 purlins that I have to replace, it will probably be many more maybe even a complete reroof as the larvae are deep inside the wood and continue to much only exitting when they change state to then lay their eggs in any cracks or holes in adjacent timbers.

 

Today is much cooler and I can do a proper inventory, then I will start work in replacing the timbers, alone as I do not have the means even to pay someone to help me.

 

Mine is not a static caravan but a twin axle touring caravan which I have to live in while renovating the completely uninhabitable house I purchased to give me something positive to do after losing my occupation and income (the Apparthôtel) during Covid.

[Lythamjohn]

I gathered it was a caravan based on you location description. I was also being factious whilst being cryptic

[J.R.]

I'll have to Google Factious!!!

[Lythamjohn]

How you managing benefits, with you both being in France? Or does that not matter since Brexit?

 

[J.R.]

There is only one of me and neither of us 😄 is in receipt of benefits from either the UK or French governments.

 

I am living on savings.

Edited 29 July, 2023 by J.R.

[Lythamjohn]

Sorry, I worded my last message quite poorly, I continuing from your previous statement where you referred being 3 years away from your state pension and the reference to 12 years I wasn’t sure if you were working in France until Covid, and as such if you wouldn’t be able to claim a French state pension, albeit only for the years you had worked in France Or if you were able to transfer your UK state pension in to a French state pension if you had previously paid contributions in France, given Frances current retirement age being 62. I wasn’t sure how it all works now as there were some really strange rules and reciprocal agreement on certain benefits when the UK was in the EU; similar to a rule which allows Employment Support Allowance to be paid whilst living in Turkey 

 

You must have some motivation to go renovating a building to open a hotel, especially in a different country. Have you looked in to the grants the French Government offers for energy reduction which includes grants for solar panels. https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/Practical/Property/What-aid-is-available-to-install-home-solar-panels-in-France-in-2023 and other energy savings. https://www.french-property.com/guides/france/building/renovation/energy-conservation My cousin liked and worked in France until last year and apparently the French Government paid for his solar panels, and other things like cavity wall insulation, underfloor insulation and loft insulation, I think he even managed to get a new boiler out of them. 

 

 

 

 

[J.R.]

Working but the system does not recognise running of gîtes, Chambre d'hôtes or small hôtels as working, its classed as sitting back and watching the money pour in from your investments, as such it is not counted towards retirement but the contributions are lower. With up to 5 changeovers a day  and having to be on site all the time and spend all day waiting for renters who will not give their arrival time I can tell you it was definitely working.

 

I am over the French retirement age but under the now increased UK one, I have been trying for over a year to make voluntary NIC contributions to buy back missing pension years as I only have 26 out of 35, used to be 26 out of 30 but before that it was 26 out of 40 so I can't complain about that, just their inability to answer the phone or do any work.

 

The grants used to be we will give you X Euros towards insulation or whatever if you use an accredited installer who invariably would charge treble the going rate and 15 times the cost of buying the materials and doing the work yourself, the average French person will happily pay 3 times the value of something if they get a tax rebate of a third of it!!!!

 

Its a lot better now and if you are on a low income like mine then solar panels, loft and internal wall insulation, new boiler, heat pump hot water cylinder etc can often be had for free, I will be trying to get external wall insulation but will have to pay probably a third, happy to do that but not when the price is treble what it should be.

 

For tax reasons the place I am restoring is not declared as my principal residence so many of the subsidised schemes are not available, if I flipped my residence I would have to pay a huge amount of capital gains tax when the hôtel sells as they do not take into account any money I have spent on it or the 12 years working on the restoration and transformation.

Edited 29 July, 2023 by J.R.

[Lythamjohn]

Regarding capital gains in the UK if you live in the property as your main residence for 6 months it cancels out any capital gains tax. It might be worth checking as a lot of counties have very similar rules. 

 

The UK tax system is bonkers as a when it comes to businesses in that you can get in loads of debt, take all the profits from your company and declaring bankruptcy to avoid having to pay your debts, and as long as your a limited company the most they can do to you is to ban your from being a director of a company. 

 

It’s the same as certain professions as taxi drivers, who according to HMRC most do the job for the love of it as they don’t make minimum wage so get a shed load of benefits if they have kids etc. But then I know professionals who became taxi drivers for more flexible working and they’re making better money then when they worked as a teacher. Another one is gardeners, there demanding between £25 and £35 per hour, giving the excuse they only work half the year, 

 

Final point of the night… Did you see the TopGear episode where they landed a chopper on your Yeti. I must admit I did/do like them and think its what really helped Skoda become more of a premium brand. 

 

Night