4 hours ago, leolito said:

how do these cars pass the ever ending restrictive regulations in Europe and get full marks stars and whatnot in the silly euroncap rating system?

EuroKneecap is increasingly obsessed with "controlling injury in a collision" rather than preventing the collision in the first place.

I lost any interest or trust in the entire system when years ago I discovered having the ever-increasing chime for the safety belt was worth a full star - back then.

Unacceptable.

Not car design per se but logo design. Apparently Jag's new logo. It's a 'meh' from me.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/19/business/jaguar-new-logo/index.html 

 

 

Plenty time to get used to it. 

Great. Get hold of a brand new second hand V8 Jaaaaaag

It's a meh from me too - doesn't improve the other way up either:

 

 

Just reads a bit funnier.

 

Gaz

 

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! 🤣😂 

I can't wait to see what they come up with in their revision of Jaguar's history, as they try and atone for the "toxic masculinity" associated with Jaguar cars. 😄

13 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Great. Get hold of a brand new second hand V8 Jaaaaaag

"Ooh! Suits you, Sir!"

 

John "Two Jags" Prescott has died.

Perhaps an omen for Jaguar itself.

Car makers should stick to advertising what they are known for.

 

 

Edited 21 November, 20241 yr by Stonekeeper

I was thinking as well to get a V90 if an Antique Dealer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You used to be able to recognise a Jag. Now they're mum tanks that look like every other Nissan.

"Breathing space"

 

'Re-imagine strategy"

 

"exuberant, compelling and disruptive brand"

 

"Lets reposition the brand to hark back to our glory days" (reworded)

 

Those will go down in history as Jaguars famous last words and will be required reading for MBA courses etc.

22 minutes ago, J.R. said:

"Breathing space"

 

'Re-imagine strategy"

 

"exuberant, compelling and disruptive brand"

 

"Lets reposition the brand to hark back to our glory days" (reworded)

 

Those will go down in history as Jaguars famous last words and will be required reading for MBA courses etc.

Emotional insinuation without detail, the hallmark of woke nonsense.

A Concept that will not reach Dealerships or a Website to buy / lease looking that much like it.

 

 

 

Edited 3 December, 20241 yr by Ootohere

 

 

The amount of shiny black plastic is crazy IMO.  I wonder what it will be like after a winter or a few weeks of gritted/ salted roads and getting washed.

9 hours ago, Ootohere said:

A Concept that will not reach Dealerships or a Website to buy / lease looking that much like it.

 

Just as well really, that would need to be parked in a triple width garage, maybe even a quadruple width one to be able to open the doors to get out.

On 02/12/2024 at 19:23, J.R. said:

"Lets reposition the brand to hark back to our glory days" (reworded)

 

This "reposition" and the "glory days" make me think that what I thought was the absolute bottom, i.e. the "British Leyland" days, might have indeed been glorious in comparison to this prospected future ... 🙄

On 21/11/2024 at 23:20, Stonekeeper said:

Car makers should stick to advertising what they are known for.

 

 

 

I know I am dating myself, but the promotion of a technological wonder that "can save lives" made in this manner automatically makes me associate it with the concept of "you can neglect the rules of the road, including speeding, since the our technology will cover for you".

Yeh, I know I am silly, but surely there is someone out there, right in this moment, not paying attention because he or she (or it) knows the car will beep and keep me in check. What an idiotic feeling ....

Sometimes I really wish Godzilla would rise up from the sea and diminish the human footprint and reduce our feeling of invincibility mixed with idiocity.

Might be wanting too much ... I can settle for the chupacabras out of some woods as well 😜

Imo horrible.  Cream interior. 

Saw one of them when they came out. I thought they looked like a cheap Chinese toy with the plastic grill, then I saw the price.

Also had a very brief shot of an iX3, basically to move it out the way. Was shocked by how cheap and nasty the interior was. Really awful.
I'm kindof done with cars right now. I don't find much appealing at all, it's all very monotonous dull and cheap looking for high prices.

Very ugly, cheap and nasty design IMHO - and very 'hippo' like.

The Chinese do much better than BMW these days.

My father is looking to get a new car. Aside from a 220i Coupe (G42), I'm struggling to suggest anything.

He is a BMW man at heart, but the new 1 Series looks like a Kia (and only comes in 130bhp or 260bhp), and nobody is paying £45,000 for a new 320i.

Then there are the options - this is not just a thing for BMW (I've also seen it on VAG cars) - but how on earth can they justify a £30,000 car in 2025 without heated wing mirrors or lumbar support! My 2011 A3 had both, and cost £3,500.

Yes, there are the options of Cupra, Skoda, etc, but nobody is paying £32,000 for a budget 1.5 Golf. Speaking of VW - how can they have an average starting price of £42,000 for a Golf GTE?! Have a look here if you want a laugh - it doesn't matter if it's an Audi Q7 - it's a Volkswagen with a near £90,000 price tag.

Just take a look at the SF90 market crash. If the people that own those cars can't get rid of them fast enough now the battery change is due, what chance does anyone have with a PHEV... just take a look at the 330e market!

Everything is overpriced, cheaply made and overpriced. After buying my vRS I had the pleasure of being in several courtesy cars - a 1.5 Golf, a 1.0 Leon and 1.0 Arona. All three were somehow worse than the last - cheaply made, uninspiring/vague to drive and all costing more than my vRS.

I love my cars - I always have. As @Aspman said though, I'm done with them for the moment. Looking on Autotrader is like looking on the menu at an Icelandic restaurant. That's if you can even find the cash price, over finance.

1 hour ago, skomaz said:

The Chinese do much better than BMW these days.

Completely agree, but what happens when you need to get your Xiaomi SU7 serviced :(