@leolito    The thing is that a 1.4TSI engine even without being a PHEV version gets a Superb along just fine on many a UK road with a 60 mph speed limit or even 70 mph. . 

@leolito You nailed my thinking with your real world experience 👍the LPG can let you have a high spec'd performance car without the bills and as long as you maintain it and hold onto it for a good while it's definitely worth the cost of conversion.

 

 I definitely enjoy the 'point and shoot' style of driving, I adhere to the speed limits but am most certainly not going to be sitting behind slow moving traffic.

 

Thanks for replying 👍

@Ootohere I've no doubt the 1.4TSI is a fine motor but I'm looking more from the driving experience than it to just get along fine, I want a bit of growl and power in the car.

I was going to post 'Sad'  but then lets be fair. 

We all love a Skoda Superb all lights on up our jacksy and going on up the road looking for others to allow them in, & that growling. Not.

@Ootohere Not sure of the need for that comment but it's come off rude and a bit petty there, you've made assumptions about my driving style and ultimately character that are just not true.

 

I certainly would never tail gate anyone nor use full beams behind another car, that may be what you understand from overtaking but its certainly not my style. I drive on or below the speed limits consistently but I have a decent 18 miles stretch of small windy road with lots of agricultural traffic to navigate on it before getting home. I respect that others on the road are not comfortable overtaking on such and I have no problem with that, but I am comfortable overtaking. I know the roads like the back of my hand and am more than capable of judging the conditions and have confidence when the vehicle I am driving is up to the task. I don't feel I have to be a prisoner to other peoples driving styles anymore than anyone else should be a prisoner to mine, there is no crime in that or anything to apologize for on my behalf.

 

There is nothing wrong with having a vehicle with a bit of "growl", someday I won't be able to manage a machine like that, but I am more than up to the task today so I will enjoy it, whether its your cup of tea or not quite frankly.

 

 

Uh, sorry if I sounded condescending, was certainly not my intention. Allow me to expand ... I have no doubt that the smaller TSI does its job moving the car along. I've done myself around 200k km when I was consultant/representative and the company supplied Pug HDi cars only, first a 306 90hp then a 307 1.6 110hp and then finally a 308 136hp. All three more than adequate to keep up with traffic and provide reasonable progress.

SWMBO jap hybrid is also okay for tagging along. And I am also okay with smaller/less performing vehicles (the abovementioned Micra runabout must be among the slowest vehicles on the road!). And I am lusting a 2cv so imagine ... 🤭

But

If you are looking for make fast progress - and this does not mean drive like an a.. - there are some basics of power/weight ratio which make some vehicle configurations more adequate than others. It's all down to a (complicated) mix of wants, needs, and obviously haves. 

Like for like - at least for me, as I bought secondhand - the outlay for the more powerful TSI was not much more than a similar equipped AWD TDI, with a performance plus. I would have loved the Skoda PHEV offering to be with a different powerplant and full AWD, but it was not the case.

And as you buy only once ... I also see a (dark) electric future in motoring, might as well try to enjoy it while it still lasts!

On 01/05/2024 at 10:02, leolito said:

I would have loved the Skoda PHEV offering to be with a different powerplant and full AWD, but it was not the case.

And as you buy only once ... I also see a (dark) electric future in motoring, might as well try to enjoy it while it still lasts!

 

All the VAG hybrid engines are the same 1.4 unit.  It's the same 1.4 you get in the non-hybrid.  It have some upgraded cylinder sleeves and a few other tweaks to reduce friction for faster power unit switching.  Also helps when the unit is cold thus not fully oiled.  As far as economy and mapping I think it is very similar to the stock 1.4 so equivalent to a 1.4 car with a loaded boot.  

I agree it would have been nice to have it in AWD variant especially given the added torque of the electric.  For what it's worth my mapped GTE is excellent and responsive in full power mode with mode normal family cars not able to keep up.  Though like many in this thread I use the power when needed rather than driving like the typical german car owner.