Hello since the vag group keep on changing recommendations on engine oils does anyone have the latest spec? My car is late 2020 1.5 tsi, not sure if it's dada or dcpa maybe.

Let VW confuse you with their additional specification numbers. - https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/owners-and-services/servicing-and-parts/spare-parts-and-oil/oil.html

 

Then perhaps consider a good quality oil from an English blender that covers the range of additional VW numbers. - Millers EE Performance Engine Oil C3 5w30 - 

 

ETA: based on Ootohere's later info  change to Millers XF PREMIUM ENGINE OIL C5 VW 0w20 (and better as the oils get greater availability) - https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-162388-millers-oils-xf-premium-c5-vw-0w-20-fully-synthetic-engine-oil.aspx

 

As you can tell I'm not a VW fan or of their, ever changing, additional numbers or not specifying weight/grade range of oil or silly 9,400m/1yr or flexible (20k-m(?)) oil changes, change at 10k-miles or 1 year whichever is the soonest and use a good quality oil.

 

I'm sure others will be along here soon with official VW engine oil dictates.

 

Good luck.

 

Edited 3 June, 20242 yr by nta16
ETA:

The Skoda / VW Recommended Oil for your engine, variable or fixed service intervals is to VW508 00 / 509 00.

 

So that is 0w 20 FS IV,     

(Not 0w 30 FS III that was still recommended for some TDI,s after Skoda VW mostly changed them from VW504 00 / 507 00)

From 2018 on sort of thing, for the WLTP coming up. 

Edited 3 June, 20242 yr by Ootohere

My gawd, whoever allowed that sticker on a VAG product is for the sack, giving away the multigrade suggested, what a slip up !  Based on the quality of VW engines and not worrying about the stretched mpg claims needing such stuff I'd still go 5w-30, 0W-30 if buying a step up in price quality. 

 

 

I've corrected my previous post based on the better info from Ootohere's post, I would definitely want good or better quality oils at 0w-20, no "cheap" stuff.

   

Thanks I'll try the 0w/20 to start with maybe update to the 5w/30 or 0w/30 later.

@Ootohere maybe I should stick to 0w/20 if this car has a GPF?

35 minutes ago, Blue8793841 said:

maybe I should stick to 0w/20 if this car has a GPF?

Jumping in I am being a bit unkind to 0W-20, a good 0W-20 will be a very good oil, that particular multigrade has little to do with GPF as the other multigrades mentioned cover GPFs too,  ETA: if you're not keeping the car long term stick with 0w-20 and if using a very good 0w-20 you could probably stick with that for the car's life as that multigrade will also improve with time and availability as markets catch up and new higher levels become the norm.

 

A good oil is a good oil, and a better oil is a better oil, it's a matter of getting what's appropriate.  The 0w-20 oils (and well below this have to be good) the 0w-20 is to help get the nth fraction more mpg out of the very ancient basic internal combustion engine.  As always the better build and quality the engine is the greater its parameters to use and abuse, personally I think VW have been and are a bit rough which is mostly fine in the short and medium term but less so longer and much longer term.

 

If you're interested have a look at 0w-8 that a Japanese engine can take and it will give you an idea of VW's engine 0w-20 oil (and 0w-12). - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sALAUhldASc 

 

 

Edited 3 June, 20242 yr by nta16
ETA:

I'm in the trade and I know what dealers are like, pretty much every guy i work with doesn't have a clue! That guy reminds me of Steve 0 🤣

6 minutes ago, Blue8793841 said:

Steve 0

Suddenly remembered Steve O, Jackass, I didn't see much of it, can't think I was their demographic, but I can't remember how long ago it was because I'm old so was probably too old for it when it was on the telly.

 

The oil geek is a pro and as he says he's "all about the science instead of the speculation" and how things work together in the real world, which oil to which engine in use.  The Americans have a lot of interest in motor oils (in oil all over the world 😆).

 

I've decades of scarring and burns from dealing with the motor trade over the decades, their are good people in there, when they are allowed to be, but also many types that think customers are something very smelly and brown they trod in on the way to work/business, that's not to say all customers are angels.

 

Most oils nowadays are good, if the Dealership is using whatever VWSkoda HQ or UK says then that'll be OK (well until they change their minds) certainly within warranty period, what's that 7, 10 years? 😁

 

 

If car is out of warranty, I would stick with any officially approved old-school 504.00/507.00 oil.
It's cheaper and will burn less (just my idea; maybe I'm wrong) than 504.00/507.00  5W30 or 0W30 oil.
Those modern watery  0W12...20 oils are just for 1 glass fuel economy and I can imagine that you'll need to top-up it more frequently.
 

4 hours ago, indars said:

If car is out of warranty, I would stick with any officially approved old-school 504.00/507.00 oil.
It's cheaper and will burn less (just my idea; maybe I'm wrong) than 504.00/507.00  5W30 or 0W30 oil.    0W20 oil.
Those modern watery  0W12...20 oils are just for 1 glass fuel economy and I can imagine that you'll need to top-up it more frequently.
 

 

Yeah I will use genuine oil, if I feel like I am topping up to much I will swap to 0w/30 see how it goes. I think it's the later DCPA engine in my car.