Hi all, as I'm new to Skoda ownership, having bought my daughter  a 2015 Fabia and myself now a late 2022 Superb, I was puzzled when opening the boot to find no jack.

Now this is from a main dealer, secondhand but with only 6000 miles on the clock, it was only a year old when purchasing, hence my trusting all was in the car for safety.

 

All I have in the boot in the expanded foam section is a towing point, wheel nut unlocking tool, a nut cap remover of the spring variety which is nigh on useless unless you don't mind scratching the allow wheels (I'll buy one of those red-handled removers from Ebay) and the fluid bottle and pump.

 

Would I be right in assuming I should have at least a jack and brace?

I discovered this because I'm taking daughter and friend to Glastonbury Tuesday night to the pick up point to wait for the coaches to entry gate, and naturally don't want anything to go awry, and having a long nut-removing bar from my old Volvo and 19mm socket on the end, I wanted to see if it would fit, noit even sure now if the wheel nuts are 19mm.

There was nothing in the side pockets also, ( first aid kit etc) or the umbrellas in the doors but I can forgive perhaps those not being in a secondhand car.

I do have a sticky rope system I have used on my 2018 Caddy van with success, but surely a jack is a pre-requisite?

I have a caddy van jack as you've probably assumed, even a spare jack from my own non-ulez 2011 caddy van which has been scrapped, could either of those be pressed into service in the meantime?

 

Thanks for your attention in getting this far.

Not much use for a jack when you have no spare wheel.

You only get the jack etc if you order the spare wheel from the factory. 

 

You need 8D0 012 44A to remove the bolt caps

 

https://www.akstuning.co.uk/shop/home/2095-all-categories-selected-template.html

Many thanks Gizmo, what's the nut size?

 

Whereas not having a wheel you could assume there's little use having a jack-that little is specifically related to using a sticky rope system quickly without having to drive the car, albeit a little to rotate the wheel to find the offending nail/screw.

Also, when using the pump and liquid system (which frankly I don't trust to repair a puncture unless someone tells me different) it would be useful not to have pressure on the wheel, and you can hand-rotate the wheel to evenly distribute the fluid?

 

Like I said, unlikely I'll use that fluid system.

 

On another note, I have a spare full size wheel I kept on my Volvo V70, what do I need to check in addition to the tyre size to know if it would do as a spare?

TIA

Edited 23 June, 20241 yr by semiroundel

46 minutes ago, semiroundel said:

Many thanks Gizmo, what's the nut size?

 

Whereas not having a wheel you could assume there's little use having a jack-that little is specifically related to using a sticky rope system quickly without having to drive the car, albeit a little to rotate the wheel to find the offending nail/screw.

Also, when using the pump and liquid system (which frankly I don't trust to repair a puncture unless someone tells me different) it would be useful not to have pressure on the wheel, and you can hand-rotate the wheel to evenly distribute the fluid?

 

Like I said, unlikely I'll use that fluid system.

 

On another note, I have a spare full size wheel I kept on my Volvo V70, what do I need to check in addition to the tyre size to know if it would do as a spare?

TIA

The tyre repair gel much like the string repair is NOT a full repair but is a temporary get you to a place of safety solution.

 

it should never be treated like a full repair and will need a proper mushroom patch which is done from the inside so it has mechanical and adhesive strength.

You will need a 17mm socket for the bolts. 
The Superb also has a 5x112 PCD bolt pattern which is different to your V70. 

If the caddy jack is a dogleg one it should be fine* to use on the skoda. I'd just get a brace off any random scrap VAG car. Maybe a wheel and tyre too if there's space. 

 

*When I say "fine" I mean no less dodgy AF as they are to use on the Caddy.

@semiroundel 

 

Did you not think of taking off a bolt cover to see if the socket / tool you had did fit?

Edited 23 June, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Thanks guys all good info.

@Ootohere, yes of course, but the car is like new, and my first attempt to remove one of the caps with the wire spring thing ended up me putting 3 scratches in the nut well so I stopped and ordered the removal tool I think Gizmo mentioned.

A boiler I can handle all day long but vehicle mechanics are a bit alien to me, just the minimum.

 

Regarding the sticky rope system, yes, a temporary repair, but in the adventure biking fraternity I'm more familiar with, there are many records of people doing tens of thousands of miles on them, my Caddy has one such repair and I'm waiting until the tyre is worn before changing it as it has good tread, partly out of stinginess, and partly to see if those wanton claims by fellow bikers and truckers are true.

 

It may come back to bite me, but at least the Caddy has a spare, so I can afford to risk it, so far I've had 4000 miles out of it.

@semiroundel  I am a Fatbiker & a fat barsteward and have had to do repairs, even packing tyres with heather and zip tying on the tyre.

But i am not the weight of a Superb. 

Same here, only my Nightster has inner tubes, shame as if I get a puncture, there's no sticky rope for me.

My Caddy van has enough weight in it to equal a Superb and a half-I still have faith in the sticky rope repair, maybe not as much if the tyre had only a small amount legal tread left, but as it was nearly new, I've risked it.

13 hours ago, Ootohere said:

@semiroundel  I am a Fatbiker & a fat barsteward and have had to do repairs, even packing tyres with heather and zip tying on the tyre.

But i am not the weight of a Superb. 

 

On 23/06/2024 at 12:13, Gizmo said:

Not much use for a jack when you have no spare wheel.

You only get the jack etc if you order the spare wheel from the factory. 

 

You need 8D0 012 44A to remove the bolt caps

 

https://www.akstuning.co.uk/shop/home/2095-all-categories-selected-template.html

Got one, great for the main caps, but effing useless for the locking nut, now I'll have to get another for that one or carry long nose pliers

On 21/07/2024 at 11:57, semiroundel said:

Got one, great for the main caps, but effing useless for the locking nut, now I'll have to get another for that one or carry long nose pliers

Errrrr, c’mon. Do you really think you’d need to have two tools to do the same job? Try again; it definitely works on the locking wheel nut cover. 

Reading through the thread it sounds as if someone snaffled the spare wheel and kit and replaced it with a inflation pack from a much older vehicle - it would explain the wire ring cap removal tool?

I didn't think the wire ring is for the nut cover removal, either locking or standard covers, the plastic pliers are used for that, which I have used multiple times for all the covers.  It was my understanding that the wire ring was for removing the cover to access the rear light cluster, via the small hole in it.  Shown in the handbook section on replacing lamps.

 

Sorry for late reply to this thread. I've decided to get a spare wheel and might as well get one the same as the rest of them.

I've seen this on Ebay, it looks exactly the same as my other wheels, is there anything else I should look out for?

I prefer having a full size wheel to one of those skinny space savers. I have a 2022 Superb SE TSi Semi-Auto

eBay UK

Skoda Superb MK3 Alloy Wheel 3V0601025C 7Jx17 F891 | eBa...

Skoda part number 3V0601025C. 7Jx17 ET40. Skoda Superb MK3 Alloy Wheel. The wheel has marks to the finish.

Edited 17 January17 Jan by semiroundel

Looks like a decent wheel. Not many for sale ( I was lucky and managed to get two the same for fitting winter tyres a few years ago also from eBay). I guess your aware a full size wheel/tyre will raise your boot floor a half inch to an inch so will need some padding under it, round the edges? Several old threads cover it in detail

19 minutes ago, Shuggyboatsuperb said:

Looks like a decent wheel. Not many for sale ( I was lucky and managed to get two the same for fitting winter tyres a few years ago also from eBay). I guess your aware a full size wheel/tyre will raise your boot floor a half inch to an inch so will need some padding under it, round the edges? Several old threads cover it in detail

Many thanks Shuggy. I'll pad out like you said. I do hate spacesavers. I just need to check definitively that this the right wheel(offset).

The part number (the 3v0——) and offset etc. will be cast onto the reverse side of the “spokes” if you can take one of your wheels

off to check.

So what am I looking at here? This is the photo of the stamp from inside of that Ebay wheel, as in what number in particular has to match my wheels?

I will take off a wheel tomorrow to get a photo of the inside, much like this one.

I had no idea that there were so many variations, or are there?

A quick goggle research mentioned the manual and drivers door jamb to get info, but neither have been any use.

The 3VO601025 is the wheel model ( Stratos 17 inch in this case) and the final letter C in the listing I believe refers to the colour ( silver).

The other thing to look for a match is the offset (ET40). Meaning 40mm. This is stated in the ebay description

Thanks for that info Shuggy, I only have their word for it as I can't see ET40 anywhere on that, so what part of the code do I need to see that denotes the 40mm offset when I take one of my wheerls off tomorrow?

ET40. Cast into the rear of one of the spokes.