Hello can anyone tell me if alloy wheels from a Fabia mark2 will fit on a Fabia mark3….. and not cause any issues.

The mark3 currently has 6V00714958Z8. ET43 fitted but two need replaced as they are badly damaged.

The mark2 wheels are 5J0601025AB. ET38.

Any feedback welcome regarding this especially from the point of safety.

thanks in advance

Andwil001

 

 

 

I am not looking up to see what that wheel number is.  I am pretty sure the Mk2 wheels will be fine on the Mk3, 

But @Carlston can give you the scores on the doors.

 

It would be nice if you just posted the Wheel  size of the Mk2 Fabia rather than us looking them up.

 

& say what the size of wheel and tyre on the Mk3  just now. 

 

EDIT.

 

Edited 17 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Hello and thanks Ootohere for the reply… I am sorry I hadn’t realised it was as complicated as they are both 15” wheels but that is why I am asking….. every day is a school day.

Fabia mk3 Originals ( still on the car and not in front of me but from pics on internet they are Mato )…the tyre size is definitely 185/60/R15 and the other info 6V00714958Z8  60J x 15 ET38 is from internet.

Fabia mk2 possible replacements are …

tyres 195/55/R15  and from pics sent by the seller of wheel inners…CD307 CDW 51224. 6J x 15H2 ET 43. 5J0601025AB.

there are set of 4 of the possible replacements available and I know the ET number is important as it determines the clearances etc

i just don’t have enough knowledge to determine if this is a workable swap before buying the replacements…. Or what the safety implications are.

hope that is enough info

thanks

andwil001

Have a look at the actual wheels you have to confirm any information you get from any source, including manufacturers that can often have errors and omissions in their databases and presentation of those on their websites and catalogues.  Inside the wheels are the numbers including ET IIRC.

 

See the following websites for comparison but bear in mind my caution and nothing beats actual trial fitting to eliminate variables.

 

By the look of it things by these sites they will fit but putting different tyres isn't the best idea, best to have all four the same size, make model, age and wear but having a different set of tyres front to rear is done, generally best to have the better grip/handling tyres to the rear (in wet weather this might also include tread depth left but not exclusively).

 

https://www.willtheyfit.com

 

https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/

 

1 hour ago, andwil001 said:

Fabia mk3 Originals ( still on the car and not in front of me but from pics on internet they are Mato )…the tyre size is definitely 185/60/R15 and the other info 6V00714958Z8  60J x 15 ET38 is from internet.

Fabia mk2 possible replacements are …

tyres 195/55/R15  and from pics sent by the seller of wheel inners…CD307 CDW 51224. 6J x 15H2 ET 43. 5J0601025AB.

And there's more; there are 2 possible PCDs, 5x100 and 5x112, even if they both have the same spigot diameter.

& all that matters as far as the PCD is that Fabia, Roomster, Kamiq & Scala are 5x100. 

 

.............

As to better tyres on the rear and all that discussion.  There are the vids, the arguments and much else over the decades. 

Do not have crap tyres on any end, and the worse tyres on the front are no help if the tail end with no drive but ESP as standard loses grip and the front steering / braking -abs / Traction / Friction means no steering, to counter act what ever. If you even notice the back end sliding.

Edited 17 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Thank you all for expanding my knowledge on this subject and making me realise it’s not just a straight swap without any consequences.

Thankyou for the information on the PCD  being the same.

After looking at the links regarding this it does seem as if the wheels will fit but the only way to really see is buy them and try it.  I will then find out about clearances etc

As the seller has 4 wheels all with the same Hankook tyres from the same vehicle there will not be an issue of different tyres/wheels being mixed as I will buy all 4.

 

I will post info regarding any issues or if it goes smoothly next weekend as I can’t get wheels till Wednesday

 

 

thanjs again

 

Andwil001

3 hours ago, andwil001 said:

the only way to really see is buy them and try it.  I will then find out about clearances etc

The full wheel sizing information is literally cast (or stamped) into the wheel rim, eg19x8 ET42 5x112 57.2. Meaning 19" diameter by 8 inch wide, 42mm inset from 0, 5 bolts on a 112mm diameter PCD and a 57.2 mm diameter centre spigot.

On 17/11/2024 at 10:08, andwil001 said:

Fabia MK3 Original

 

Your 6Jx15 ET38 5/100 57.1 MATO alloy rims with OEM part number 6V0071495 8Z8 are not original because the xxx071xxx format of the OEM part number means they are from the Skoda accessory catalogue.

 

These MATO alloy rim are still available to purchase from the Skoda accessory catalogue and the Czech price is about £120, although expect UK VAG dealers to charge a little more.

 

One of the standard wheel sizes on the Fabia MK3 is 215/45R16 7Jx16 ET46, so 195/55R15 6Jx15 ET43 isn't going to rub. Although the ET43 offset moves the centre of the tyre 5mm further into the wheelarch, because the 195/55R15 tyre size has a "nominal" 10mm increase in width they should fill the wheelarches a similar amount to the standard 15" wheel size, ie. 185/60R15 6Jx15 ET38...so should look sunken in the wheelarch.

 

You can see in the chart below, that the 195/55R15 tyre size has a slightly smaller outside diameter than the standard Fabia MK3 tyre size. As a general guide, less than a 1.5% difference isn't much. However, when fitting non-standard tyre sizes it's more common to go slightly bigger rather than slightly smaller.

 

For maximum protection from kerbing damage on the 6Jx15 ET43 rim, 205/55R15 could be used.

 

Outside diameter of tyres

175/70R14 600.6mm

185/60R15 603mm

215/45R16 599.9mm

215/40R17 603.8mm

195/55R15 595.5mm (between 0.7% and 1.4% smaller outside diameter compared to the standard Fabia MK3 tyre sizes)

195/60R15 615mm (between 1.9% and 2.5% bigger outside diameter compared to the standard Fabia MK3 tyre sizes)

205/55R15 606.5mm (between 0.4% and 1.1% bigger outside diameter compared to the standard Fabia MK3 tyre sizes)

 

6Jx15 ET38 5/100 57.1 MATO alloy rim 6V0071495 8Z8

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-mato-15-rapid-fabia-iii/p/6V0071495++8Z8

 

Falken Ziex ZE310 205/55R15 88V (Euro label C A 67dB) (summer tyre)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s289p208326/Falken_Tyres_Car_Falken_Ziex_ZE310_Ecorun_205_55_R15_88V_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_A_NoiseClass%3A_A_Noise%3A_67dB

 

Falken Eurowinter HS02 205/55R15 88H (Euro label D B 69dB) (winter tyre)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/tyre/Falken/EUROWINTER-HS02/205-55-R15-88H-BLK/D-134927

 

As you can see in the ETRTO chart below, a 205/55R15 can be fitted to a rim width between 5.5" and 7.5" with car manufacturers usually choosing between 6" and 7", ie. avoided the two extremes of 5.5" and 7.5" rim widths. 6.5 is highlighted in the chart below because that is the standard rim width for a 205/55R15 tyre size, ie. if you can't decide what rim width to fit a 205/55R15 tyre to, then a 6.5" rim width is a good place to start.

 

ETRTO approved rim widths for passenger car tyres
205/55R15 5.5-6.5-7.5

 

A non-standard 205/55R15 6Jx15 wheel size is a much more comfortable wheel size than the standard 215/45R16 7Jx16. Not only does the 205/55R15 have a higher standard load index than 215/45R16, ie. 88 (560kg) versus 86 (530kg)...but it is narrower and has a higher sidewall height...plus in this example it is fitted to a relatively narrower 6" rim width...which all adds up to a much more comfortable wheel size. To get the 205/55R15 6Jx15 wheel size to feel as hard riding as a 215/45R16 7Jx16 you would probably have to over-inflate it by at least 8psi. Considering it's easy to feel a 3psi difference in tyre pressure, an 8psi difference is a big one. 

 

Edited 18 November, 20241 yr by Carlston

Hello and thank you ...Ootohere, nta16, Paws4Thot and Carlston for all of your input on the change of alloys. I apologise for the late reply but the weather has been against me fitting these.

 

My initial query was changing the alloys for a set which had different ET offset numbers and different sized tyres and was concerned about clearances.

 

As Carlston rightly pointed out the MATO Fabia Mk3 wheel I had quoted in my first post ( 6V0071495 8Z8 ) is  actually an Skoda accessory....I took this part number from a picture/internet as I did not have the car in front of me at the time.  The actual wheel I took off the car was MATO,  and I am assuming factory fitted because the car was bought through a Skoda dealership ,  it has part number 6V0601025A  ET38  and had 185/60/R15 tyres. 

 

I have now fitted 4 of the the Fabia Mk2 wheels  5J0601025AB. ET43. with 195/55/R15 tyres onto my daughters Mk3 Fabia and all is good.

I also had also had a mechanic to check over the suspension clearances etc and he has given it the thumbs up.

 

So to recap a direct swap of 6V0601025A ET38 and 185/60/R15 tyres  to 5J0601025AB ET43 and 195/55/R15 tyres with no clearance problems,  the car looks in proportion and handles well.

 

thank you all for your inputs

 

Andwil001