Hello, peeps.

I'm owner of brand new Superb 4 with 2.0 TSI 265p.s engine. 

Waiting to have the car in my hands in a couple of days from the local dealer.

On a first glance, what is the difference with the prev 2.0 TSi 280p.s

- Turbo charger is Garret. Not continental anymore. By the book, it should be with the same performance, but I do have doubts.

- Not sure how many nozzles has the engine. Does it has MPI?

 

And here is coming my big pain.  No visible real exhaust pipes on the rear bumper.  Everything is hidden under the bumper. Any idea of aftermarket that can solve that? 
 

 

2 hours ago, DasSkoda said:

No visible real exhaust pipes

exactly same pain i got with my previous Mk3 220ps

solution became better than my current Mk3.FL 280ps have

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/392652-exhausts/page/4/#comment-4839197

 

 

 

 

In Superb 4, is even worst. I can't find any aftermarket solution till now ...

looks like mission impossible,

adding visible exhaust pipes requires modified bumper too 😞

 

I hope, with the next facelift or sportline, that to be fixed, also to be pluggable to this one. 
Dummy decision by Skoda! To get top brand with top engine, and receive a view like an ordinary Skoda ... 🤢

On 21/01/2025 at 17:59, DasSkoda said:

 

- Not sure how many nozzles has the engine. Does it has MPI?

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't.
 

Regarding the exhaust pipes, they are double but they are hidden even on the Sportline version. There will definitely be some retrofit kits.

I think, the MPI nozzles are presented only on the first edition with 280p.s up to 2018. 

The annoying part for me, is the turbo downgrade. Previous edition has Continental. 

The current 265ps is equiped with Garrett. On first look, Garrett is a bit smaller than Continental.

Small turbo comes with early response.

And if you go with some turning parts, it might be an issue.

Will see.

Waiting to grab the car from the dealership this week.

Will wait 2-3k km , and after that, will see what can do that engine in terms of performance....

Am coming from Octavia 2.0 TSI 190p.s.

Edited 25 January, 20251 yr by DasSkoda

@DasSkoda
I also come from the Octavia 3 2.0 TSI 190ps. 4x4 and I can tell you that there is a big difference between them in almost all areas, comfort, stability, speed, brakes, safety, space, etc.

Yeah, indeed.

Octavia is a budget car for the fleet's in some companies. Let's say, for middle level management.

Superb is totally different car. I had in the past Superb 2 2.0TDI 170p.s manual gearbox, Superb 3 2.0 tdi 190 DSG 6 speed, and now Superb 4. 

Do not get me wrong. Octavia is a nice car, nothing more or else. By humble opinion.

On the fuel tank has a sticker that pointed to use petrol with min RON95.

The dealership said, it's fine to drive with that petrol.

Does anyone has other information?

98(vs 95) gives:

1. extra performance

2. is better for engine health

3. cheaper each km, if price difference doesn't exceed 5%

 

with diesel can be saved 30% of money on each km,

but it lack in performance,

generates annoying tractor noise

and it smells bad, as for vehicles behind as during refueling

 

For the previous generations, it was pointed min 98 RON.

With the current one, it's 95 RON. The main issue that was mentioned from the dealership it is,  it's not good for the spar plugs  to drive with high octane petrol.

Only, if it necessary when it's too hot outside, and your driving like a a mad,  and need to limit the detonation in the engine block, can use petrol with more than 95 RON .

 

What am doing with my current Octavia 2.0 TSi 190p.s (there also is recommended to be used petrol min 96 RON), on every second tank to be with petrol with 100 RON. 
Here at Bulgaria, we do have petrol with 95 and 100 RON, only.
 

Edited 29 January, 20251 yr by DasSkoda

8 minutes ago, DasSkoda said:

The main issue that was mentioned from the dealership it is,  it's not good for the spar plugs  to drive with high octane petrol.

Last time i heard that excuse was when A-76 was not sold anymore and Moskwitch owners were panicking because they could only buy A92 or 95E fuel...

 

i have ran all of my cars on 98E only, from 1966 audi and same era moskwitch up to Mk3 and Mk4 1.5TFSi Superbs. No problem at all.

Today I got the car from dealership. 

Recommended engine oil is 0w20.Must cover VW standard 508/509. 

 

I step out from the dealership, and pass to the gas station. Put a full tank with petrol 100 RON.

And then, surprise. ..

GPF regeneration. Gear shifts happen within 3k turnover in a minute. Light on the dashboard grey out, I drove around 10 minutes  and light still lightning , fans under the  front cover were engaged. 

When I stoped on a traffic light, engine keeps running  1.5k turnover in a minute. 

I reach the parking spot, and that behaviour remains.  I had to go, and just switched the engine off.

The exact same behaviour like a diesel engine with DPF!

 

Did I bought a "diesel" .... ?   🤨

WTF, really. I did not expected to faced that with a petrol engine ... 

 

 

Edited 30 January, 20251 yr by DasSkoda

Strangely enough, I've never experienced or heard of anything like this with gasoline engines. I knew that regeneration was passive.

Today I had to drive the car just to move it from one place to another. When I started the engine, it was displayed on the screen: GPF filter regeneration is active. Check the instructions.

I drove in 4km, then the lights turns off, and the car continue to operate like normal. 

 

Will monitor that behaviour in next miles.

@Rigor how many miles do you have with you S4 ? 

 

Until now, I have driven 10,000 km without any issues, except for the DCC noise. I haven’t had any problems with the particulate filter, nor have I seen anyone else experience this issue.

 

I understand that your car is new and that you picked it up just a few days ago. I suggest you go to the dealer to have them check what the problem is. You have a new car, and the particulate filter warning shouldn’t appear.

Agreed. I call to him recently. The answer was:

- They observed that in 2 more cars. The same situation. Grab it from dealership garage, and then surprise. 

   If that has happen again, I need to visit them.

Will give a week time, will drive it around, and if that situation reproduced, will chase them for sure.

 

 

When was your car manufactured? Ask the dealer if they can find out whether anything has changed in the manufacturing process and if active regeneration has been introduced on gasoline engines.

It was assembled in second week of December 2024. Delivered at dealership at 12 of January 2025. 

I grab it at 25 of January 2025.

Will ask that now. Thanks

@Rigor one question,if I may?

Is there any way to have displayed on the central display, for example instead the radio icon, to be driving data like current fuel level etc?

I did not had a chance to play around, coz I put the car to be wrapped with protection folios. 

If you are referring to Virtual Cockpit, yes, you can change the radio icon with other information.

Yea, am pointing to virtual cockpit.

Cool, will explore that option.

Thanks 

I see the Octavia VRS and the Golf GTI now come as standard with 265Ps so I assume that sadly the engine in the MK4 Superb is a VRS/Golf GTI engine rather than a Golf R / S3 engine.

 

I imagine a remap will probably only get you to just over 300Ps where the old 280Ps Mk3, especailly the pre GPF cars, would make nearer 370Ps. The latest MK8 R has 333ps so I cant see VAG detuning that to 265PS for the Superb

when they have a 265PS engine in other cars.

 

Getting big power just isnt going to be as easy as it was. I imagine this is why Skoda gave Re performance one of the very last MK3 cars to play with rather than using 

it as an oportunity to show off the MK4. 

 

Stolen from another page when comparing the MK7 Golf GTI Engine to the R Engine:

• Different Alloy for cylinder head
• Exhaust valves (hollow, higher Ni content, nitrided)
• Exhaust valve seat rings (improved temperature stability and wear resistance)
• Exhaust camshaft (adapted valve timings)
• Compression ratio 9.3:1 with different pistons
• Piston cooling jets (higher flow rate)
• High pressure injectors (even higher flow rate)
• Larger exhaust turbocharger - Charge pressures of up to 17.4 PSI (1.2 bar)

Saying all that unless you are planning on tuning the car the the smaller turbo will make the car more efficient and responsive at lower RPM and its still going to hitch its skirt up and fly with a stage one map on it.