Hi,

I looking to refurbish my existing 17" Cerberus alloys and need to obtain a spare set of wheels to do so. The current 17" alloys have 225/45ZR17 tyres. I have seen for sale some 16" alloys fitted with 185/60R16 tyres at a price I can afford.

Would these be a suitable replacement. Any advice would be appreciated,

Thanks.

Kev.

@tetley

1) 225*0.45 = 101.25 wall height.

2) 185+0.60 = 111.0 wall height.

As you've omitted the speed rating of the 16" tyres I can't be certain if they're usable on your car, but they're certainly slightly under radius.

The seller does not give any detail in the description, so I don't know. What should I be looking for?

Looking for a quick sale 16" alloys and "fitted with commercial rated tyres" is the description. I took the tyre size from an image.

A tyre comparison website gives me:-

The alloys are VW branded, so I am assuming the wheel bolts will align.

1 hour ago, tetley said:

The seller does not give any detail in the description, so I don't know. What should I be looking for?

Honestly. Another set of tyres, even if both sets of wheels are the same PCD, and they may not be. The 185/60s, on the available information, should not be used on a vehicle capable of over 80MPH.

Thanks @Paws4Thot ,

I've already contacted the seller earlier and have arranged to take a look. As I was orginally only looking for alloys getting tyres as well seemed like a bonus.

Dont know about the Skodas but in VW Polo and Amaroks have different PCD to Golfs Passats Tiguans and others so be careful Ist lot are 100 others are 112

32 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

Dont know about the Skodas but in VW Polo and Amaroks have different PCD to Golfs Passats Tiguans and others so be careful Ist lot are 100 others are 112

Rim width and offset might be important too. I'd think the 16" would fit over your brakes, but worth checking that as well (e.g. most vRS's can't use wheels less than 17").

'commercial rated tyres' - are they van tyres?:

G

Edited 6 June6 Jun by Gaz
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1 hour ago, Gaz said:

Rim width and offset might be important too. I'd think the 16" would fit over your brakes, but worth checking that as well (e.g. most vRS's can't use wheels less than 17").

'commercial rated tyres' - are they van tyres?:

G

Yes very important as Offset can make a hell of a difference. Wrong it can lead to rubbing on the guards and wrong in opposite direction can mean tyres may rub on struts etc All is written on the backside f one of the spokes so ask for a pic and compare with yours. Another thing is that in most VAG cars they have a spacesaver spare and a Full size wheel and tyre wont fit in the wheel well Certainly not in my Tiguan Rline with 20's Would have only got an 18 with low profile and not smaller as then the subwoofer wouldnt go in the rim. Oh the problems LOL

As you've found the tyre comparison site the following two sites may help you (subject to information being correct, there are errors and omissions in all sources of data and information, even from manufacturers).

Obviously the tyres and wheels for sale need visual inspection for how good or not they might be, look for the age of the tyres and their general condition as he size change alone will make some difference to how they operate on the car, let alone the tyre age and wear (and any damage seen or unseen).

HTH.

Will They Fit -https://www.willtheyfit.com

Wheel-Size.com - https://www.wheel-size.com/

On 06/06/2025 at 09:33, Gaz said:

Rim width and offset might be important too. I'd think the 16" would fit over your brakes, but worth checking that as well (e.g. most vRS's can't use wheels less than 17").

'commercial rated tyres' - are they van tyres?:

G

I can't see anything wrong with using commercial rated tyres on a car, with the caveat being you'd want to be under their (presumably low) speed rating.

FWIW, if you have 312mm brakes, then commercial 16" wheels might cause some issues with clearances if they are a weird shape/offset.

15 minutes ago, OccyVRS said:

I can't see anything wrong with using commercial rated tyres on a car, with the caveat being you'd want to be under their (presumably low) speed rating.

FWIW, if you have 312mm brakes, then commercial 16" wheels might cause some issues with clearances if they are a weird shape/offset.

It is just as easy to buy the correct tyres and drive accordingly as who is to say someone who doesnt know you have the wrong ones on it and go too fast, Have an accident and then no insurance. Its not as if the correct ones are hard to get. Stupidity personified

Also if you fit wheels and tyres that are Smaller than what you have your speedo will be miles FAST as the speed is taken from a sensor in the ABS that takes the number of rotations in a kilometer to get the reading. So more revs faster speed reading, a 45mm less diameter will make about 7kph difference at 100kph so if your speedo is fast now ( it will be by law) it will be worse as above

Edited 9 June9 Jun by Exkiwi

1 hour ago, Exkiwi said:

It is just as easy to buy the correct tyres and drive accordingly as who is to say someone who doesnt know you have the wrong ones on it and go too fast, Have an accident and then no insurance. Its not as if the correct ones are hard to get. Stupidity personified

Right. Nice to meet you too, I think?

I personally don't go around on the internet calling people I don't know 'stupid', but different strokes for different folks and all that.

I'm not sure how things work in Australia, but here in the UK we generally don't let random people drive our vehicles, especially when they're on temporary wheels for a refurb job. I'm reasonably sure most commercial tyres have a speed rating of above 70mph, so insurance would need to take into account the fact OPs car was speeding too.

OP also mentioned they were looking for a setup 'at a price I can afford' - god forbid somebody can't afford to get a temporary setup with forged 21" HRE's dressed in 315 section Pilot Sport Cup 2s.

Of course fitting commercial tyres and wheels to a car perhaps isn't ideal, but for the use that OP has (spare for a refurb) I suspect it will be absolutely fine. You should never fit passenger wheels and tyres to a commercial vehicle that require load rated items, but as long as the speed rating is taken into consideration, there is no reason why commercial items on a passenger car will cause any significant issues, as long as caution is exercised with the speed rating.

Thanks for your sweeping statement. I'm sure OP was looking for exactly what you said - 'it's not as if the correct ones are hard to get'. Clearly, for his budget, they are. That is also not to mention he quite literally said he was just after wheels and that useable tyres were 'a bonus'.

1 hour ago, Exkiwi said:

Also if you fit wheels and tyres that are Smaller than what you have your speedo will be miles FAST as the speed is taken from a sensor in the ABS that takes the number of rotations in a kilometer to get the reading. So more revs faster speed reading, a 45mm less diameter will make about 7kph difference at 100kph so if your speedo is fast now ( it will be by law) it will be worse as above

Thank you for explaining how a speedometer functions.

I should however point out that 'more revs faster speeding', despite being grammatically incorrect, is also factually inaccurate, as I would suspect being at 2,000rpm in 6th is going to result in a larger inaccuracy than being at 6000rpm in 1st. It could also be an older car, with a mechanical or VSS speedo. It's not, but it could be.

I think, speaking for myself, the other commenters and OP, we are all aware of this.

I think that's everything. I wish I were intelligent enough to call someone stupid when my syntax, grammar and punctuation render my comments virtually unintelligible.

1 minute ago, OccyVRS said:

Right. Nice to meet you too, I think?

I personally don't go around on the internet calling people I don't know 'stupid', but different strokes for different folks and all that.

I'm not sure how things work in Australia, but here in the UK we generally don't let random people drive our vehicles, especially when they're on temporary wheels for a refurb job. I'm reasonably sure most commercial tyres have a speed rating of above 70mph, so insurance would need to take into account the fact OPs car was speeding too.

OP also mentioned they were looking for a setup 'at a price I can afford' - god forbid somebody can't afford to get a temporary setup with forged 21" HRE's dressed in 315 section Pilot Sport Cup 2s.

Of course fitting commercial tyres and wheels to a car perhaps isn't ideal, but for the use that OP has (spare for a refurb) I suspect it will be absolutely fine. You should never fit passenger wheels and tyres to a commercial vehicle that require load rated items, but as long as the speed rating is taken into consideration, there is no reason why commercial items on a passenger car will cause any significant issues, as long as caution is exercised with the speed rating.

Thanks for your sweeping statement. I'm sure OP was looking for exactly what you said - 'it's not as if the correct ones are hard to get'. Clearly, for his budget, they are. That is also not to mention he quite literally said he was just after wheels and that useable tyres were 'a bonus'.

Thank you for explaining how a speedometer functions.

I should however point out that 'more revs faster speeding', despite being grammatically incorrect, is also factually inaccurate, as I would suspect being at 2,000rpm in 6th is going to result in a larger inaccuracy than being at 6000rpm in 1st. It could also be an older car, with a mechanical or VSS speedo. It's not, but it could be.

I think, speaking for myself, the other commenters and OP, we are all aware of this.

I think that's everything. I wish I were intelligent enough to call someone stupid when my syntax, grammar and punctuation render my comments virtually unintelligible.

I will ignore the rant as I wasnt calling him Stupid I was meaning that doing it was. Also who is to say who will drive the car with them on. Maybe a young family member may inadvertently do so and transgress. Was merely mentioning a possible situation. Regarding revs making difference to speed.. Hmm some reading skills would be good. Its the number of revolutions the wheel does. Nothing to do with what the motor or gearbox is doing as is taken from a rear non driven wheel usually. FFS You can do a kilometre in second at 6000rpm or do it in 7th at 2000rpm and the wheel will still do the same number of revs or revolutions for the challenged. Also plenty of wheels available on the internet for reasonable prices and I might say that they are much cheaper than over here Eg a 20in spare for a Tiguan was going to cost me at Least $600 AU. New they are $1000+. Perhaps we have different education levels in the Southern hemisphere. Also the Op hasnt complained so why are you commenting.

Just as an afterthought If OP wants to save money take one wheel at a time and use the spare while its away. If spare is a spacesaver just buy one wheel same size as car. I got my Caravan wheels done and did it like that. Worked out fine.

Edited 10 June10 Jun by Exkiwi

16 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

I will ignore the rant as I wasnt calling him Stupid I was meaning that doing it was. Also who is to say who will drive the car with them on. Maybe a young family member may inadvertently do so and transgress. Was merely mentioning a possible situation. Regarding revs making difference to speed.. Hmm some reading skills would be good. Its the number of revolutions the wheel does. Nothing to do with what the motor or gearbox is doing as is taken from a rear non driven wheel usually. FFS You can do a kilometre in second at 6000rpm or do it in 7th at 2000rpm and the wheel will still do the same number of revs or revolutions for the challenged. Also plenty of wheels available on the internet for reasonable prices and I might say that they are much cheaper than over here Eg a 20in spare for a Tiguan was going to cost me at Least $600 AU. New they are $1000+. Perhaps we have different education levels in the Southern hemisphere. Also the Op hasnt complained so why are you commenting.

I was commenting as 'stupidity personified' appeared to be levelled at me. You quoted what I said, followed by the words stupid and then personified...

I appreciate that I may have misinterpreted what you meant regarding revolutions of the wheel, rather than revolutions of the engine, however when it's written as 'more revs faster speed reading', can you really blame me? Besides, I knew exactly what you meant - I was making a point.

Regarded your last bit, I agree. The item here, for example, would be much better suited. OE wheels are pretty expensive here too - an 18" spare wheel for a vRS is £300 from Skoda, which is $620 AUD. If it were me in this position, I'd either borrow a set of VAG wheels from a friend, or pick up some 16" steelies. I'm a bit dubious of cheap(er) second hand wheels, but that's just me!

That said, maybe OP is limited in where they can travel due to disability, commitment or other factors. Regardless, it's not our position to call someone stupid or appear disparaging and condescending because they ask about doing something. Maybe you didn't mean to come across the way that you did, however that is the way that I read it.

BTW - remember it's 2am here, so OP is probably fast asleep dreaming of his newly refurbed wheels 😆

What i wrote

"Also if you fit wheels and tyres that are Smaller than what you have your speedo will be miles FAST as the speed is taken from a sensor in the ABS that takes the number of rotations in a kilometer to get the reading."

So it isnt just my writing. Rotation going around as in revolutions

Its lunchtime here and its winter and its a nice 15C. Bye Bye Enough said Im off to get the towels and go to the car wash. LOL

wow... people can get pretty hot under the collar while offering help around the place cant they?

i think everybody would benefit from refreshing their knowledge of the posting guidelines -

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/guidelines

If you read it, remember mods can bin posts that serve noone or just seem to be getting personal in tone..

and if people keep pushing those buttons theres member strikes and timeouts that can be applied.

disagreements happen, but it doesnt need to lead to name calling and stuff. mods are busy enough keeping the place tidy and functioing to have start watching what people are saying to each other.

I'm back. I've given "likes" for responding whilst not necessary agreeing with any sentiment of any particular posting. I asked the original question as I didn't know and am grateful that forum members took time out to respond.

I turned up at the seller's as agreed and took my ruler to measure the PDC. I then politely declined the purchase and advised the seller to included wheel and tyre details in his listing using the information learned from the above postings, so future prospective buyers would be better informed. He thanked me for the advise!

The front of my home needed the hedges cutting back. Now I have finally completed that task, I have realised my car can be parked off road. The kerb at the pavement has been lowered and there is a gap in the hedge to enter and exit. I did not realise the front was so big and could probably fit both my wife's Karoq (MK2) and my own car in the space available. What I now think I will do is place the car on axle stands whilst the wheels are being refurbished. I think this will be better as without a garage there would be nowhere to store spare wheels when not in use, something I had not considered earlier.

Kev.