2.0 PD140 vs 2.0 PD170

[SteVRs]

On a rr the 140 shows up as putting out 160bhp anyway, so you are not far off the vrs.

If you believe that then you've got to assume the vrs would have a similar margin on top so you're back to square one.

Personally I don't think it's true.

[VRStu]

The 350NM figure is the max rated torque of the 02Q gearbox.

[cheezemonkhai]

q2q being the 6 speed box yes.

I heard that from yourself but remember something similar before the car came out and set me thinking that a car running max torque for a gear box isn't always a good idea.

[VRStu]

q2q being the 6 speed box yes.

Yes it is the 6 speed. It is 02Q not Q2Q though .

Broadly based on the 02M from the MK I Octavia.

[Neo_VR]

Bearing in mind that young Walkie is only 21, the extra outlay on a 170bhp motor would be offset by the saving in insurance over a remapped 140..

I would need to drive them both... for example, this week ive got a mk4 GT-TDI 150 as a company hack.. and the engine is totally different to my vRS.

Its laggier, yet pulls for a bit longer when revving the nuts off it... either way i dont like it. (this has always been the issue on reviews of cars with this engine.. that real-world its only just as quick as the pd130 because of the extra lag)

[dstev2000]

The PD130 is still a fantastic engine and I would be looking at a Furby vRS for a fun diesel car. In fact thats what SWMBO has gone for so we'll be a 2 Skoda family soon If you need more power then there's the obvious potential for remapping.

Not sure about motorway driving though as I only caned one around some country roads for an hour or so.

[walkie]

The PD130 is still a fantastic engine and I would be looking at a Furby vRS for a fun diesel car. In fact thats what SWMBO has gone for so we'll be a 2 Skoda family soon If you need more power then there's the obvious potential for remapping.

Not sure about motorway driving though as I only caned one around some country roads for an hour or so.

Been there, done that

Not knocking the vRS at all, great little car

[johnjohnhealy]

I thought all 4 cylinder PD's except the 2.0 170bhp were single cam 8v? I know my 130 is in the Superb.

[tinkerbell]

Have you looked at the Mondeo ST TDCI? Plenty of nearly new ones for well below list, more kit than you can shake a stick at, and they're just at home on twisty B roads as they are at munching up motorway miles

Chris

:eek: :eek: A Ford on my driveway :eek: :eek: I hope you are joking!!!!

:rofl:

[devonmikeyboy]

The 350NM figure is the max rated torque of the 02Q gearbox.

350Nm/258lb ft is the torque that the PD170 produces not the max torque of the gearbox.

I thought all 4 cylinder PD's except the 2.0 170bhp were single cam 8v? I know my 130 is in the Superb.

The PD 140 is a twin cam 16v engine mate. I have one in my Audi and a spare up at Allards in bits and they deffo have two cams and 16 valves.

[Lady Elanore]

Here is a bit of a teaser. Does anyone know of any 4 cylinder 16v engines with just one cam. No V8 Yankee motors! Was the Dolly Sprint such a motor??

[ScoobyChris]

Here is a bit of a teaser. Does anyone know of any 4 cylinder 16v engines with just one cam. No V8 Yankee motors! Was the Dolly Sprint such a motor??

A bit of Googling turned up the 1996 Honda Accord with a 2.2-litre, 4-cylinder single overhead cam 16-valve, 130bhp 4-cylinder engine.

Chris

[Lady Elanore]

A bit of Googling turned up the 1996 Honda Accord with a 2.2-litre, 4-cylinder single overhead cam 16-valve, 130bhp 4-cylinder engine.

Chris

'Googling' is cheating, or cruel to small rodents, I

[ScoobyChris]

'Googling' is cheating, or cruel to small rodents, I

[Lady Elanore]

I hear it can be both in certain parts of the country. :eek: In other parts it is just a way of life

Chris

I can hear the squealing of terrified Woodmice from here!!!:eek:

[cheezemonkhai]

I thought stu was right re the 350NM limit on the gear box

[VRStu]

It's 350NM - and yes I am right!!

[cheezemonkhai]

Corrected and I obviously can't type for **** on this thread :(

[devonmikeyboy]

It's 350NM - and yes I am right!!

So VW put a gearbox with a stated max torque capacity load of 350NM in a car with an engine already quoted as producing 350NM from the factory? Don`t you find that a bit strange .

[cheezemonkhai]

No cause i read that elasewhere as well as hearing it from stu.

This way you can't take your PD170 skoda and turn it into an audi killer with a map, you need a new uprated gearbox too.

[dstev2000]

Is it just the Skoda with that 350MN limit or do other VAG cars have the same setup?

[Neo_VR]

No cause i read that elasewhere as well as hearing it from stu.

This way you can't take your PD170 skoda and turn it into an audi killer with a map, you need a new uprated gearbox too.

You wont be able to anyway.. well not easily.. the 170's have DPFs which get in the way of decent mapping... as they get blocked easily.

[cheezemonkhai]

You got my point

[VRStu]

So VW put a gearbox with a stated max torque capacity load of 350NM in a car with an engine already quoted as producing 350NM from the factory? Don`t you find that a bit strange .

That may be so Mike but they are the facts that Skoda quote, can we put this debate to bed now!! -

[cheezemonkhai]

What a comfortable bed that just got put into