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Superb 2.0 140 bhp -- DONT BUY ONE

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Didnt get a chance to photo it this weekend, cars away until next weekend, let me know if you still need piccies

No Rush Stu, as and when.

I need to work out feasibility and cost anyway as it might be feasible but not cost effective.

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Back to the top just in case anyones looking at new cars over Easter

A very wicked thought... Can you turn the soot filter end for end? If so, run it alternate ways round - that should fix the Eurocrats without having to fool the electronics.

rotodiesel.

I dont think turning it around would make a difference.

If it was beginning to block, turning it round (end for end) would blow the soot out of the back.

rotodiesel.

A novel idea, would mean cutting and welding or sleeving I guess, and then it will block up again within a few hundred miles if its not driven for a long period.

Can I add Octavia 140bhp Tdi - Don't buy one.

Don't wan't to go through the details yet - at the moment still arguing with Skoda Customer Services UK - but shall we`say mine is the worst car I have ever owned in 22 years of car ownership.

When you work as an IT Contractor (as I am at the moment) as the car refuses to turn over (electrics working) and 2 new ECU Units have been replaced you begin to get a tad concerned. And when dealer (not the supplying dealer I must add as I have moved) won't lend you a car or even offer a lift to the railway station it just gets a tad annoying.

Thgankfully I was able to use SWMBO's Mazda 3 but that left her without a car for an important Hospital appointment - it was only with help from the inlaws that we got round this.

The Octy II has now gone - I'm back in a slightly older Fabia VRS which over the last month has been faultless (better keep quiet just in case). I reverted back to Wings in Peterborough - a dealer who have gone out of their way to help me out. However, the situation was marred by VAG finance taking an additional payment out a month after all finance was settled. I am looking for finacial redress for this - a point of principle not the cash is at stake here.

So to sum up

DO NOT BUY ANY SKODA WITH A 140BHP PD ENGINE

DO NOT TAKE FINANCE OUT THROUGH SKODA FINANCE (VWFS)

Still amused when a dealer (who successively failed to deal with the fault) tried to sell me a new Superb 140bhp for

Hmm a little off topic in as much as its not the same engine as the Superb.

Been following this thread with interest. Just a thought - since the pressure differential is used to trigger regeneration why not connect up the second sensor to the first one's output but with a resistor in between?

That way you have a dynamic pressure differential seen by the system, which should keep it happy.

Once in a while, when it suits you, you can switch over to a bigger resistor and force regeneration to take place...

my 2p worth...

Bas

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Been following this thread with interest. Just a thought - since the pressure differential is used to trigger regeneration why not connect up the second sensor to the first one's output but with a resistor in between?

That way you have a dynamic pressure differential seen by the system, which should keep it happy.

Once in a while, when it suits you, you can switch over to a bigger resistor and force regeneration to take place...

my 2p worth...

Bas

The pressure differential is measured by a single sensor with 2 tubes going to it from the exhaust, one from each side of the filter. The only reason you would want to fudge any readings from the sensors is if you remove the Filter. That has to be the only way an owner can get a reliable car, Somethuing that Skoda dont appear to be interested in providing.

All the time the filter is fitted you are best letting the car decide when regeneration takes place

Even easier to fiddle with then! Say you disconnect the tube aft of the filter. Connect a T-piece inline with the pre-filter tube with a constriction in one arm (say 25% to start off with) and run a tube to the removed aft side of the sensor. Or use a normal T-piece and run a slightly narrower gauge tube to the aft pressure side of the sensor...

That way you have a variable pressure being sensed which has a constant % pressure differential fore/aft. Keeps the system fooled and happy. When you want to force regeneration just clamp the new "aft tube" and it should force a regeneration cycle... Or get rid of the filter totally if you want......

merely idle musings of a car nut.....

Cheers

Bas

The simple fact is you shouldn't have to bugger around like this with a new car and to be told simply 'thats the way they are' is a bleedin cop out.

Not the dealers fault they are as helpless as the customer.

The simple fact is you shouldn't have to bugger around like this with a new car and to be told simply 'thats the way they are' is a bleedin cop out.

Not the dealers fault they are as helpless as the customer.

Absolutely. No argument there.

However when you have any problem, it always good to have options.

And here no-one seems to have any workable ones........

Bas

Basil - a man after my own heart. I'm interested in this problem although I have (by deliberate choice) a Cat III engine in my Superb and have no problems with it. Apart from the technical aspects, it's interesting to see how Skoda (UK) have evolved from being a generally "reasonable" arm of VAG into the old "don't give a damn about the customer" style VAG as exemplified by VW and Audi now that the chips are down and they have a serious problem on their hands.

It's a pity, because until recently VAG had a clear technical lead over the Japanese with their diesel engines - which is why I bought one, but now the Japs have caught up. This fact, coupled with Skoda's utter inability to correct basic design defects of the cars they are cloning, no doubt due to lack of empowerment from Wolfsburg (water ingress anyone?) means that my present Skoda will be my last. Honda or Toyota will get my cheque next time.

rotodiesel.

Stu,

Sorry I haven't been in contact with you, a job change has had me tied up most waking hours.

I'll try and get over to have a look at it all and see if what is there, and we can work out if we can create a fake sensor from there.

Sorry I haven't been in contact with you, a job change has had me tied up most waking hours.

:eek:

Not going to ask :D

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The simple fact is you shouldn't have to bugger around like this with a new car and to be told simply 'thats the way they are' is a bleedin cop out.

Not the dealers fault they are as helpless as the customer.

Couldnt agree more, when I was told by Skoda my only redress was to sue a perfectly decent & reosnable dealer I was amazed but unfortunately they can hide behind this as your contract is with the selling dealer, not Skoda.

If you wish to sue the dealer you then have to employ lawyers which all costs more & more.

I tried he Society of Motor manufacturers but suprise suprise a body funded by the manufacturers are only interested if a dealer fails to sort out a warranty fault, design faults arent covered !!!, obviously that comes out of the poor dealers pocket again.

The only come back I can see is to log all the failings, inconvenience etc then take the Dealer & Skoda jointly through the small claims court for compensation, that way you minimise your risks but Skoda are bound to have to incur lawyers costs etc which are going to be more than it costs you should you loose.

Its all become a game really, the only looser will be Skoda as like many others my only redress having been told by Skoda "we dont care about customers" is to try & ensure future purchasers of Skodas realise what they are letting themselves in for. This was our third Skoda, the first 2 Octy 1's are great cars, the Superb is a great car apart from one major fault. Skoda really are making things far worse with their attitude to customers, The thread on the stuttering fabias makes a great read, the list of build quality issues with some Octavia 2's likewise. It really questions what sort of reputation with customers SUK are trying to achieve, slick adverts wont mask the issues for ever.

If you want to make Skoda pay attention to this matter a legal attempt at any redress is expensive, time-consuming and as they have fulltime legal people pretty useless IMHO.

However, if you manage to get this issue in the media, they will sit up and pay attention pretty darn quick.

It's relatively cheap, and the dealer may be prepared to speak with a journalist anonymously, not in the least to avoid being directly sued by the customer. Journalists are always on the look for a good story, just have to sell them the idea......

The other risk to SUK is that one customer alone is a weak legal challenge - get a story going and you can assemble a band of customers going for a class action, sharing the legal costs easily - major headache.

HTH mate

Bas

:eek:

Not going to ask :D

I'm currently working as a PM so the whip and chains were out ;):rofl:

Watchdog springs to mind, but first they mast receive quite a few complaints on the matter, I too found SUK to be less than helpful when contacted, but they were saved any wrath by a few good dealers close by.

Maybe one day a survey will highlight this, but at the moment most surveys only ask about the dealer.

I havn't read all the thread but if a few are afflicted in the same way maybe a group action could be cost effective.

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Stu,

Sorry I haven't been in contact with you, a job change has had me tied up most waking hours.

I'll try and get over to have a look at it all and see if what is there, and we can work out if we can create a fake sensor from there.

Thanks

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Just an update on this, the sensor is very simple, but as yet I haven't managed to locate on at a breakers yard.

Does anybody have the part number for the G450 sensor on superb and if possible an approximate price?

Thanks

Don't know if this is old news, but I understand from a dealer just now that there is a free firmware flash for the ECU which should "fix" the vast majority of these issues, with the caveat that if the driver "persisitantly drives under 50mph, the warning light may still appear."

Thanks to transport "policy" there are few places other than motorways where one can legally drive at over 50 mph nowadays.

Coupled with the Superb's fate as being the nation's luxo-taxi this doesn't sound like much of a fix.

rotodiesel,

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Don't know if this is old news, but I understand from a dealer just now that there is a free firmware flash for the ECU which should "fix" the vast majority of these issues, with the caveat that if the driver "persisitantly drives under 50mph, the warning light may still appear."

Its news to me, can you find out any more info

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