Id say fuel economy is important to everybody - who wouldnt have an interest in its fuel economy? Two identical cars with same performance yet one uses much less fuel, I & pretty much everyone in their right mind would choose the most efficient

MPG unless absolutely horrendous is near the end of the queue on a performance car, handling, brakes to name but 2 other that are more importan.

On Performance cars if its pennies being watched then top of the list is Depreciation, some fall like a stone if not considered desireable !!

Also Insurance, my Octy 350 bhp all mods declared £430, Just had a quote to transfer it to the M3 CS currently un modded & 355 bhp &1081 :eek: :eek:

Ditto

Drifted off topic

My post was purely as the thread appeared to be drifting onto an economy based (yawn) discussion, it would appear you bit a tadge, wasnt meant to wind anyone

to answer your other points, on track 8 mpg so not far, on the road Im guessing about 300-350 miles on a tank, 4x4 has a bigger tank, Filled up friday when car showed 15 miles left, cost £60.

Fun that counts ??? If thats what you get fun from thats what you get fun from, Agreed if you get fun from economy then dont buy a RS4.

Personally Ive got the 350 bhp 4x4 for my kind of fun, the Octy Diesel estate as a daily hack & Wendys Superb as a comfortable cruiser so I can tick whatever box I need to that day.

Personal Fun, If I had the money it would be a Mosler, R8 or GT3 in that order. Lifes too short to worry

Ive no idea what he values most for fun! Clearly hs likes very fast cars and is delighted with the fuel economy. Not sure I can add any more unless he typed this himself as only he knows which is more important

Still doesn't answer why:

a. He's bothering to do it, when most people wouldn't even think about things like that until they've had their car a while - I'm still not convinced you're not making it all up, by the way;

b. He didn't think to check on the economy BEFORE he bought it. I mean, surely if you buy a car like that, you just accept the fuel economy for what it is rather than sitting down every time you fill up and working out exactly how much fuel you've used - like Kaiserb_uk said, if it really was that big a deal, your mate would have said "that's a nice car" and then bought the 3.0 S-Line Quattro diesel...

Your missing the point he is over the moon about the economy that its delivering. I guess maybe thats why he checked it.

Also as an accountant I guess possibly checking that the £0.40/mile he gets will cover Ins, servicing tac and fuel.

FYI - Ive checked this on most cars Ive owned after the age of 21 as before then fuel was much cheaper than today.

I personally ignore the MPG these days and focus on the cost per mile as that way is the only way you can compare fuel costs per mie for a bio fuel, gas, petrol or diesel back to back as the purchase price is different for each.

Audi RS4 | Long Term Tests | Car Reviews | evo

"I’ve noticed that the V8 feels a little less smooth during warm-up than it used to, though fuel economy has gradually improved – on a gentle commute I can see up to 25mpg, and the trip computer shows that the average since we took on the car has risen from 20.8 to 22.4mpg. Not bad considering that, as ever, those gentle commutes are interspersed with cross-country runs that involve checking and re-checking where that glorious V8’s rev-limiter is."

Getting 30mpg is he? Out of a V8?

Also as an accountant I guess possibly checking that the £0.40/mile he gets will cover Ins, servicing tac and fuel.

...and as a non-accountant, I hope you (and your friend) realise that the taxman will be eyeing your friend's £0.40/mile with interest if he only uses it for commuting...

Trainee actuary, my @r$e!

...and as a non-accountant, I hope you (and your friend) realise that the taxman will be eyeing your friend's £0.40/mile with interest if he only uses it for commuting...

Trainee actuary, my @r$e!

£0.40/mile is business miles - I took it for granted that was known.

£0.40/mile is business miles - I took it for granted that was known.

Please explain, then:

This car is being used to commute - it is his only car and will be covering up to 20,000 a year.

Audi RS4 | Long Term Tests | Car Reviews | evo

"I’ve noticed that the V8 feels a little less smooth during warm-up than it used to, though fuel economy has gradually improved – on a gentle commute I can see up to 25mpg, and the trip computer shows that the average since we took on the car has risen from 20.8 to 22.4mpg. Not bad considering that, as ever, those gentle commutes are interspersed with cross-country runs that involve checking and re-checking where that glorious V8’s rev-limiter is."

Getting 30mpg is he? Out of a V8?

So he states - it is a year old car though so run in, also the last part of that extract talking about the rev limiter....well that speaks volumes about how he drives the car. My mate has only on the test drive drven it up to that level now nowhere close.

POLITE NOTICE:

:feedtrol:

Could he not wait for a 123d then?

Audi RS4 | Long Term Tests | Car Reviews | evo

"I’ve noticed that the V8 feels a little less smooth during warm-up than it used to, though fuel economy has gradually improved – on a gentle commute I can see up to 25mpg, and the trip computer shows that the average since we took on the car has risen from 20.8 to 22.4mpg. Not bad considering that, as ever, those gentle commutes are interspersed with cross-country runs that involve checking and re-checking where that glorious V8’s rev-limiter is."

Getting 30mpg is he? Out of a V8?

So he states - it is a year old car though so run in, also the last part of that extract talking about the rev limiter....well that speaks volumes about how he drives the car. My mate has only on the test drive drven it up to that level now nowhere close.

Please explain, then:

Sure - he commutes and its his only car, never stated how far he commutes nor did I state anything about his use of car for work.

20k for commuting and the odd private weekend use is well above average.

Could he not wait for a 123d then?

Its not a family car and its a diesel and its not fast enough.

So he states - it is a year old car though so run in, also the last part of that extract talking about the rev limiter....well that speaks volumes about how he drives the car. My mate has only on the test drive drven it up to that level now nowhere close.

I put it in bold, there's not a lot more I can do. You sir are an argumentative troll.

Sure - he commutes and its his only car, never stated how far he commutes nor did I state anything about his use of car for work.

20k for commuting and the odd private weekend use is well above average.

Not for me it ain't...

Anyway, this thread's not going anywhere so 'cheerio'! :wavey:

20k for commuting

Commuting is NOT the same thing as business use though, and I believe that's the point which is trying to be made. HMRC would tear you a new one if you tried to claim mileage allowance on commuting...

Rob.

Not for me it ain't...

Anyway, this thread's not going anywhere so 'cheerio'! :wavey:

Sounds good

Commuting is NOT the same thing as business use though, and I believe that's the point which is trying to be made. HMRC would tear you a new one if you tried to claim mileage allowance on commuting...

Rob.

I get to claim 13p/mile for commuting at one of my jobs, it is taxed though? Is that ok?

I get to claim 13p/mile for commuting at one of my jobs, it is taxed though? Is that ok?

Ok lets get this straight.

If you use your own car you are allowed £0.40/mile tax free, if your employer pays less than thius you need to keep a logbook of all trips signed off by your line manager then this is to be submitted to the inland revenue in Apr the following tax year. The form is IR*** I think its IR085.

If you take the cash instead of the comp car again its as above.

If you take a comp car they pay you at £0.13/mile ish levels again this is untaxed but as its a company car you have no servicing no MOT no Insurance to physically pay for hence its purely the value of the fuel - there is no ability here though that I know of to claim more back fromt he Govt & none I can see on the IR website.

I get to claim 13p/mile for commuting at one of my jobs, it is taxed though? Is that ok?

Depends how it's paid and claimed - usual trick I'm aware of is to either:

1. Calculate it and add it to pay (so it ends up just being taxable income).

2. Have your place of work as home and then visits to your "real" place of work are classed as business travel rather than commuting. Though if your visits to "real" place of work were such that an auditer believed you were commuting then you probably wouldn't get away with it...

Rob.

Goes through expenses or if using a comp car the milage gets told to the fleet which is then calculated and paid gorss it is untaxed.

Goes through expenses or if using a comp car the milage gets told to the fleet which is then calculated and paid gorss it is untaxed.

Claiming fuel for commuting goes through expenses?

Rob.

Its not a family car and its a diesel and its not fast enough.

how fast do you want to go , the max speed limit is 70mph

God this thread is excruciating, I wish I'd never read it! welshy posts up about a mate's RS4 then mentions some second hand fuel economy figures, then all the geeks in the world attack him with MPG, PPM, and business use stats.

Please get off the internet.

Congratulations Welshy.

You are the first person I have added to my ignore list:thumbup:

I spout rubbish, but you take the biscuit.