Try fighting away through the endless high performance cars filling with tesco sul on a sunday evening at the main cardiff branch none of them seem to think it's 5hit

And to the OP texaco super is 97 ron which I use most of the time as I have a texaco fuel card, and I use tesco super if i can't make it to the Texaco before it close's

Try fighting away through the endless high performance cars filling with tesco sul on a sunday evening at the main cardiff branch none of them seem to think it's 5hit

Surely not Subaru or Mitsibushi owners though?

Couldn't resist.

Motr

Your statement about the What Car finding was very interesting and goes to prove that the type of fuel you use has very little benefit in terms of performance.

What it will do is help keep your engine clean over the many thousands of mile that will in turn help to keep the performance and fuel consumption as good as possible.

In my VRS I use Shell V Power and sometime Shell 95 Ron and I can’t say I notice any deferent’s in terms of MPG or vroom vroom and I drive hard and long.

I feel the only reason not to use Tesco super fuels is that you are only helping line the pockets of the most power hungry company in the UK who are only really interested in closing every bit of business around them, then see how cheap their fuel is then .

Buying from Tesco means you are helping to loose the right to free choose, good food

and the country side around us when Tesco put the farmers out of business and buy your meat your China or Argentina because it is cheap, As Every Little Helps!!

Back to the fuel, (Rant Over) if all that is achieved is a cleaner engine then you can save your money on paying 6p extra a litre and use 95 ron and then add something like STD injection cleaner at £5 a bottle and add it every 3 months.

Result clean engine = good MPG and good MPH and more money to spend on buying

good food that makes better people.

Well, I always understood it that Tesco got their fuel via Esso. So you may well be onto something.

Tesco 99 comes from Greenergy. It is apparently made by Greenergy exclusively for Tesco. Naturally they don't say where they get it from, so it could still easily be Esso/Shell/BP or anyone else.

In my own experience, Tesco 99 (and any other high-octane petrol) would always give my old BMW 318i about 50 more miles on a tank than 95RON fuel, which easily justified the extra cost

I always put Tesco 99 in my Mk II VRS, and I haven't dared try it on 95RON so I don't know what difference it makes in this car.

Ben.

Motr

I feel the only reason not to use Tesco super fuels is that you are only helping line the pockets of the most power hungry company in the UK who are only really interested in closing every bit of business around them, then see how cheap their fuel is then .

Buying from Tesco means you are helping to loose the right to free choose, good food

and the country side around us when Tesco put the farmers out of business and buy your meat your China or Argentina because it is cheap, As Every Little Helps!!

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A tesco hater. Explains a lot, it really does. Personally, I think those comments are absolute ********. Tesco as a supermarket is just another option open for the likes opf me. I buy meat from a weekly Sunday local market, I buy veg from an organic farmer and for otehr bits and pieces, I use Tesco, purely because they offer the same products as Sainsbury, Asda etc... at a cheaper price (although all have price wars every now and again), but its like your local shop who can sell a tin of baked beans for about 30p dearer than Tesco. Why is that? Is that because they know they have a captive market, especially older people who are forced to buy goods at such a high price because they can't travel into town to the supermarkets or to the outskirts?

I would rather pay £7.99 for a cd/dvd set from a band I like from Amazon than pay £24.99 from the likes of Virgin Megastore. Nothing wrong with competition imo as long as the pricing is right. Some complain when shops close down, but for instance, the likes of Virgin Megastores are only shooting themselves in the foot.

I am afraid that I use Tesco 99 for two reasons, it is easy for me to obtain (I work opposite a tesco garage) and secondly, its the best higher Ron petrol that I have used.

To get the MPG that Skoda quote, using the correct RON number is surely beneficial for me as a consumer ie RON95 means a noiser engine and slighty worse fuel economy. With Tesco 99 and Sainsburys 97, the performance of the car felt better and was a bit more sprightly. Granted, I don't notice it as much now as to when I first switched from using the bog standard in February, but the difference was very noticeable then.

I will also add this. Current price round my way for RON 95 is 98.9 (currently Tesco, Shell, Esso, Sainsburys and BP), Tesco 99 is 101.9, so only 3 p a litre difference.

If I used RON 95 and used an additive, would I get near the MPG figures that Skoda quotes, despite the fact they stipulate that their figures are based on using RON 98 fuel.

Buying petrol like anything else is all about consumer choice. Something you are having a go at Tesco about, which is your decision and I applaud you for it, but your posts are slightly double standard.

EDIT: Forget that last comment, I thought you and symonevans were the same. Very similar. Sorry.

Tesco 99 comes from Greenergy. It is apparently made by Greenergy exclusively for Tesco. Naturally they don't say where they get it from, so it could still easily be Esso/Shell/BP or anyone else.

I read it somewhere, so I don't know if its right or wrong benzo.

Motr

Your statement about the What Car finding was very interesting and goes to prove that the type of fuel you use has very little benefit in terms of performance.

Indeed, but I disagree with some of their findings but even they concluded that the VW group base their official MPG on a higher octane petrol. Something theyreally never delved into, which was a shame.

Here is an earlier report from someone else. Think this was early 2007 or late 06 Thorney Motorsport Fuel Test Results

Hers a comment made a few months back (as the petrol thing comes up quite a bit) and bear in mind I just have a 1.6 FSI:

'When I got my Octy last August, I thought that whilst idling, it revved quite high. But, being a new car and a new car to me, I thought it would settle down. It didn't.

It wasn't until I put in a tenners worth of Tesco 99 in the tank in February that the revs settled down. It was much, much quiter and that was straight after I had put the petrol in.

Later on that week, I was going to a gig at the NEC and decided to fill it up and really see how it goes and I have to say, the impression it left on me makes me think Tesco 99 is worth it over 95. The pick up, the response whilst over taking, the smoothness, I dunno, at first I thought it was my imagination, but the next time I filled up, I put 95 back in.

That was the last time I used 95. So for me, it seemed quite an immediate impact.'

Motr

Sorry if I sounded a bit anti Tesco but I suppose I am, but then if they had done what

they have just done in our small town then so might you.

I do agree with you but all I say is not to put all your eggs in one basket and you like me quite clearly don’t.

As the What Car report stated the different between super fuel and 95 ron was no more than 0.1 of a gallon not really worth 6p a litre is it, and that was done under controlled lab conditions.

I drive around 28k and I seem to do around 32 mpg on what ever fuel I use 95 or 99

so is it just a case that you think your car is performing better on 99, I don’t know??

Here is an earlier report from someone else. Think this was early 2007 or late 06 Thorney Motorsport Fuel Test Results

This is exactly what I said in post 13, that the only way to really find out is a laboratory, or as in this case a controlled test.

Or am I now going to be told that they had fresh 99 octane and we all get the old stale stuff?

As Fatty 500 and many others have noticed and commented on, it is a very popular fuel and used by most of the performance cars where the makes specify 98 and above octane.

This could go on for ever with personal views, but at the end of the day, Tesco would not sell it if was no good, as nobody would buy it.

I would add that all the Tesco petrol sites around where I live have converted all the pumps to dispense 99 alongside the other grades, where as, a while ago it was only on one or two pumps at each petrol station.

Since no 2 engines will ever be identical and no 2 drivers ever treat their cars the same you are bound to get some differences of actual or perceived performance or reaction to the same fuels.

I always run on supermarket diesel, with Millers Sport4, as having tried BP and Shells more expensive fuels I have been unable to see any performance or economy improvement for the extra cash.

I would add that all the Tesco petrol sites around where I live have converted all the pumps to dispense 99 alongside the other grades, where as, a while ago it was only on one or two pumps at each petrol station.

Correct - only the other day, after the out-of-stock episode ended and I filled up at Shoreham Holmbush, I realised that the label on the pump I used said 97. I got their customer services to check with the petrol people there and they said, no, it was ALL 99, so ignore the duff pump label.

Having just read through all the threads I thought I would chuck my 2 pence worth in as well!!!

In terms of there only being a couple petrol manufacturers in the UK i believe that the comment is correct (I have a few friends working in petrol refineries). However, not all fuels are as equal as each other. Hence cheaper petrol retailers will often buy petrol which does not quite meet the standards of the actual manufacturer i.e. not good enough for BP but will do you fine. So although the fuel in tescos etc may be of the same satandard normally as BP/Shell etc it may not always be the case (all depends how well my mates have been operating the refining equipment!!!). Also I have been told that the additives to the petrol vary. So Texaco will putting a certain blend of additives in for themselves but will not do this when supplying fuel to other retailers. So even though the basic fuel could be the same the additives could still make a difference.

In terms of which fuel I use. In my old Mk 1 VRS I used tescos standard fuel (95) pretty much exclusively (garage convienient, cheap and clubcard points!!!) and I never felt I was missing any performance or causing damage to the engine. I now have a Mk 2 VRS TDi and use tescos standard diesel and again have no complaints on the fuel.

Syman, How often do you see Scoobies and Evo's filling up at Tesco's?

For starters, you never fill up there, so surely you can't see them? And if you did, is it just down to hanging out at your local car park?

Who are you to pass on your judgement? and less of the cheek.

May I just spend a few minutes here to LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:

Tesco99 is blended by Greenergy and they actually publish the quality results of their fuel on their website. Greenergy International Ltd - Tesco 99 Octane

May I just spend a few minutes here to LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:

Careful, he will tell you off as well:rofl:

Tesco99 is blended by Greenergy and they actually publish the quality results of their fuel on their website. Greenergy International Ltd - Tesco 99 Octane

Just checked that site for locations.

My local isn't even on there!! [shoreham W.Sx.]

But did anyone notice, on the listing, the county of STROPSHIRE ???

Ooooh, I wouldn't want to live there!!

At one time, not so long ago, many of the local Tescos didn't do it but all the ones I've been to recently do. As an organisation i really don't like T****, but I can't fault the fuel or the price compared to local Shell and BP garages and as someone said earlier, Clubcard points which I don't collect myself.

As for MPG, I glance at the computer each night at a spot 15 miles from work and it can vary from one night to the next say between 29mpg and 34mpg, even on the same tank of fuel, probably due to variables such as one set of lights on red or the opportunity for a quick blast, so apparent variations between different fuels are definitely a possibility

Just called at Tesco's Stockport, no super unleaded now for 3 weeks!, whats going on? If ti comes from Greenenergy might have to investigate if the refinery has problems. As an aside, do people know that most fuel in Scotland and northern ireland comes from Grangemouth, which is owned by Ineos, bet youve never seen an Ineos garage:)

I don't know if this has got anything to do with anything, but I have just been assured there are actually only two suppliers of fuel in this country - one is the Esso/BP combination, the other is Shell. My informant insisted that every other apparently different brand actually originates from one of these.

Right or wrong?????

Wrong. Refineries in the UK consist of Texaco, Shell, Esso, total, ConocoPhillips (sold as Jet), Murco, Petroplus (sell their fuel to BP as they do not have a refinery in this country anymore) Innovene (used to be BP grangemouth) so thats 9 different suppliers.

Working for Texaco I know that they have a deal with shell where they supply eachother with fuel. I see shell tankers coming in to fill up with us. Obviously this is only for standard petrol and diesel as V power is only made my shell. not sure of the other players having deals with eachother.

And in Tescos defence, they don't buy old fuel as there is never any left sitting around. The Refiners can't make enough of the stuff and it is never left lying around.

Petrol and diesel have a standard so standard diesel and petrol are the same in my opinion. No way is a manufacturer going to make their product much better than the standard as this will cost them more.

We have a unit which takes practically all the sulphur out of petrol but it is lying mothballed as government regulations doesn't require petrol to be that clean. If that was going it would cost them £££ to run it.

People get very excited about fuel don't they!

It's like getting excited about water - there's not much to choose between them (especially at the standard end of the market), but it is in the brand's interest for you to believe you can't do without their Ultimate/Evian!

I see fuel in the following terms:

1. Spec - as in octane or BS EN number. (95/98/99 etc)

2. Standard fuel with additive packages such as keropur by BASF - see Diesel Performance Packages: BASF Performance Chemicals - (Ultimate/Diesel Extra/Excellium)

3. Special fuel - such as V-power which actually has some different ingredients.

I don't see supermarkets using sub-standard fuel (it HAS to comply with BS EN standards) but they might use a cheaper additive package.

You make the choice and pay the money. The tests in AutoCar failed to find anything to choose between brands.

Sorry I just had to get that out of my system!